Based on 369 opinions finded in 3 websites
Based on 369 opinions finded in 3 websites
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Cosy, friendly pub with great choice of food. Stopped here for lunch to refuel on a hike around the area. Lots of hearty food on the menu which is exactly what we wanted on a cold day!
Sally M . 2024-11-04
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5 of us called in after a walk intent on a drink and maybe food. But we weren't acknowledged at all and waited 10 mins with no service so left. Shame really as we had heard good things about the place.
Steve Fleming . 2024-09-08
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Excellent food which was quickly delivered . The suet pudding had a very generous amount of tender meat and nice fresh vegetables. The chilli con carne was lovely- just the right amount and not too spicy. Drinks good too. A lovely spot for lunch after excellent walks in the surrounding woodlands. Personally I find the ban on smoking and vaping in the grounds, a big positive.
InvictaJ . 2024-09-07
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It's really hard to find a pub that is wheelchair friendly, dog friendly and vegan friendly, but this one ticks all the boxes! The young lad who served us on a couple of occasions is absolutely the nicest most attentive waiter and all the staff are super friendly and accommodating.
Rob Nunns . 2024-08-25
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No food available yet again. My wife and I have moved into the immediate vicinity 9 months ago and this lovely old pub is our local within walking distance. Great beer garden and when we had food there 2 years ago it was good and simple. We have had a totally different experience over the last 3 months when we have visited on three separate occasions. The first time in May, on a Saturday lunch time the bar person greeted us with “ I can give you a drink but don’t know when I can take your food order”. One drink and 40 minutes later, no progress with placing our food order or advice as to when we could get some food. Paid our bill and left totally dissatisfied like several others who came in while we were waiting. Visited again a week ago on a hot Friday afternoon at 2.45. Greeted by the landlord with “we’re closing at 3”. No offer of a drink or any attempt to enter into a conversation with potentially new regular customers who live within walking distance. Final attempt to forge a relationship with this business was at 6.30 pm on Thursday (food is served supposedly from 6.30). Entered the pub to be greeted by a notice on the bar advising drinks only ie no food again. We left without seeing anyone. After 3 visits, 3 disappointments in 3 months and nothing to encourage a 4th visit. What a shame.
Michael C . 2024-08-15
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Fabulous little find, had a really good evening meal. Very friendly barman. Excellent food, well presented and reasonably priced. In a lovely forest setting . Try the black lager !
Deborah Jones . 2024-06-19
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We had a lovely meal. It's a beautiful country pub with welcoming staff and delicious food. Highly recommended.
Angela Laws . 2024-06-01
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The pub was cold had to keep my coat on. The landlord was indifferent to the point of rudeness. The food was warm by the time it reached the table and considering there was only another party of three we were surprised. The bathrooms smelt uncared for. Considering I've been going here for 15 or more years and had recommended it very disappointing and we won't be going back.
carla h . 2024-05-21
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An absolutely stunning pub, a perfect position for a pit stop while out walking, we didn't have food but will definitely return, a beautifully kept garden, lovely staff and a perfect position.
Russell Fox . 2024-05-07
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Great pub that is pretty hidden unless you look for it.
Jonathan Jewitt . 2024-04-28
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Fantastic pub always great service and food you can't fault. Dog friendly and caters for vegys as well as omnivorous folks. If you have allergies they are great and happily find out for you. We always stop here when walking the beautiful Perry wood. Perry wood has bluebells out at the moment so why not see them then have a great dinner after.
Kitty Pole . 2024-04-26
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Friendly quaint pub with good pub grub. Dog friendly and lovely welcoming lady behind the bar. Had the brisket which was delicious and asked for more gravy which arrived in no time. Busy pub within few minutes of arriving but made to feel very welcome from the minute we arrived.
Sue B . 2024-04-07
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Had a walk in Perry woods and stopped off for lunch, it was very nice.
Geoff Barr . 2024-04-06
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Great beer and garden is a proper sun trap
Lesley Westwood . 2024-04-05
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Only came I gor a drink before walking up The Mount. Looked like a nice place to stop for a meal after a long hike around Perry Wood.
Steve Smith (mntainman) . 2024-04-03
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Decided to go somewhere different for lunch, ended up at the Rose and Crown. First impressions of the outside a bit grey looking, but to be fair it was a grey sort of day, rainy and the like, imagine it's very pretty nestled in the countryside on a warm sunny day. We went inside, it was very chilly and I kept my coat on for the first half hour, lovely fireplace just no fire, considering it was a grey damp day was expecting to be welcomed by a lovely fire. The bar staff was very nice and helpful.we ordered our food, it came out fairly quickly and was very nice, despite having 2 lots of potato, I had fish pie with mashed potato on and also new potatos, the filling to the pie was tasty but didn't have a lot of sauce with it. I noticed that there were several dogs in the pub and asked if it was ok to bring dogs in and was assured that it was ok. Looks like some lovely walks through the woods outside. All that being said, we would go back, just maybe when it's warmer.
Tricia Philpott . 2024-03-20
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A nice place for a pint on a rainy evening.
Ben Martin . 2024-03-16
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Lovely pub, beautiful food. Dogs are very welcome. There are lots of woods to walk around.
Stephen Norton . 2024-03-13
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Service was dreadful, one person doing everything. No food as had to wait so long. drinks bar v limited overall very disappointing after a lovely walk in the woods. Was hoping for bite to eat. Pub wasn’t even full? Need more staff then better service happier customers.
Louise Brasier . 2024-03-09
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Met friends for dinner as approx half way between where we live. Friendly pub with good food at very reasonable prices. Harvey’s ale was excellent as well.
FarAway22941426067 . 2024-01-06
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Not as good as it used to be. Harvey's isn't great but the food was value for money 💰
Colin Woods . 2024-01-01
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We had Sunday lunch here 4 adults ,2 kids and a dog food was gorgeous service was great ,staff were lovely highly recommend
Lee Lindridge . 2023-11-12
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Nice little pub for a bit of lunch after a walk in the forest.
Raymond Wheeler . 2023-10-27
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Nice place, beer garden, friendly.
Bert H . 2023-10-22
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Thank you to the Rose and Crown for catering for those 20 off-road cyclists at the weekend. Not only did they provide us with some delicious sandwiches, they found a 'snug' to squeeze as all into. Obviously, we can't forget the array of beers and spirits. I had the Harvey's Best which is always a nice pint.
Andrew Barton . 2023-10-10
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Stopped if after a very satisfying off-road ride for a spot of lunch, very friendly staff ampul parking great Garden great food
Andrew Gills . 2023-09-24
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A great place for a drink after a nice walk through the countryside
Paul . 2023-08-22
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What a lovely pub!! Set in a fantastic location right next to the wonderful Perry Woods, this charming pub has the nicest beer garden I have even been in. There was also a different selection of beers than the usual ones you see in most pubs, I enjoyed a couple of pints of Bitburger and the service was very welcoming. The kids will love exploring the garden and watching the chickens that are kept there. Although we didn't try the food on this visit, I hope to return sometime soon and I will update the review then. 😊
Mark Thomas . 2023-08-15
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Lovely pub tucked away near Perry Wood. Perfect for that after walk meal.
Julie Martin . 2023-08-15
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We visited on Saturday 12th August as a party of 7 for a relatives birthday treat. The pub and it’s location is absolutely gorgeous. Really quaint, and with a stunning garden area which has chickens (fenced off) and even a little see saw for the children. The menu on offer had loads of choice and all of us easily found something we wanted to order. Food came in a reasonable time and was really really good. Hot and tasty! The sundaes on the dessert menu are delicious too! Good selection of drinks, cosy ambience, and friendly staff. Ideal for a quiet meal, in a picturesque setting. We will definitely go back! This pub is also dog friendly which meant that Millie our springer was able to join in on the celebrations 🐶
Broomsticks . 2023-08-13
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Such a lovely pub. I went there today with a friend and our children for lunch and it was so friendly. Great food, great service, great prices and a beautiful garden with very, very, very well looked after chickens. Will definitely be returning. Thank you so much!
Ali Fuller . 2023-08-10
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Wha a beautiful pub and garden. Lovely warm welcome from the lady behind the bar. Good choice of food from the lunch menu including vegetarian options. Food was great and served quickly and efficiently. All round good experience and would highly recommend. And dog friendly!
Robert S . 2023-08-08
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Good food worthy of the price. Nice and lovely setting outside when the wether is fine. Good start for walking in the area!
Mathieu Van den Eynde . 2023-08-05
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Unfortunately have to agree that the service here does not match the lovely pub and it's garden. Bar man seemed uninterested, pretty miserable. Was suprised we wanted food menu's even though we had booked a table..?! A real shame as with friendlier service the experience would have been much better. Food took a long time to come, although was of good quality. Seeing the chef have to come and wave the bar man round to come and collect the food was interesting...took longer to do that than just bring it himself as the bar was "busy". More staff needed
nickwibb03 . 2023-07-30
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Great pub to enjoy. Good range of beers including German wheat beer 😎. Lovely indoor area and the outdoor garden area has lots of space and different areas. Good range of pub food, with specials, with good portion sizes. Highly recommended and I'll be going back. Also a great place to aim for after a walk in Perry Wood.
Thomas Stiff . 2023-07-24
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Country pub located on an intersection of the Perry Woods walking trail. Only had drinks in the non smoking garden but friendly atmosphere.
Andrew . 2023-07-18
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Great country pub, great beer, great food and dog friendly. Highly recommend. The garden is also amazing.
Jonathan Moore . 2023-06-25
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Popped in for a drink after a walk. Friendly staff and a lovely garden.
Dawn Healey . 2023-06-19
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Pleasant pub, lovely garden, miserable service. Such a shame. A smile and a welcome would have made all the difference. Ordering at the bar (and spending £50 on easy drinks) was like dealing with bored receptionists at a government department.
Culture16947328238 . 2023-06-18
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Pleasant pub, lovely garden, miserable service. Such a shame. A smile and a welcome would have made all the difference. Ordering at the bar (and spending £50 on easy drinks) was like dealing with bored receptionists at a government department.
Graham Evans . 2023-06-18
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Can't wait for even better weather when this pub really ' blooms'. If you've not been then make a date to visit and enjoy a lovely traditional English country pub
Paul Russell . 2023-06-07
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Lovely country pub in the beautiful woods
Lynn Gilbert . 2023-06-04
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Amazing lamb shank. Had a great meal and the service was brilliant, so polite & friendly.
John Hirst . 2023-05-31
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Lovely place good food and chat
aline jones . 2023-02-12
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Really good old fashioned pub with Harvey's beer and good food at reasonable prices. Wood burner placed to give the pub a good atmosphere and warm. Welcoming landlord. Dogs welcome on leads and good parking to the rear if parking spaces full at the front. Terrific area for walking and because the land is high here and the soil generally well drained it is great for winter walks when other areas are impassable. If you do go give the steak and kidney pudding a go, it's the best I've had in years.
Paul Verrall . 2022-11-20
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This pub serves very good quality pub food with the extra attraction of some German beers on tap. The pub is quite isolated but that make it an excellent starting point for a hike through Perry Wood or further across the downs.
Robert Johnston . 2022-11-16
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Visit here because we were in the area and wanted some lunch. Little gem of a pub, food was lovely and staff welcoming. Worth a visit if you are in the area
David Johnson . 2022-11-09
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Very short staffed. Food not bad. Nice garden.
Maggie Scott . 2022-10-19
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Lovely country pub with hearty tradition English food which isn't covered in watercress to try and make it look fancy!
Roz Glick Knight . 2022-10-18
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Nice place to go after exploring Perry Wood
Kelly Stanford . 2022-08-31
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Great lunch stop during our bank holiday walk. Prefect example of a Kent countryside pub, nice lunch & pint of Harveys. Recommended.
Arfon Davies . 2022-08-29
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Fantastic pub Family friendly Good ales Highly recommend
angela kelly . 2022-08-29
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Rather busy little pub in the middle of the woods, a few German beers as well as a few from Harvey's, food was reasonably priced and tasty. Barmaid was rushed off her feet but remained friendly and helpful even though she was clearly struggling.
Matthew Turner . 2022-08-21
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my husband found this pub after an online search for us to take friends for a meal one hot evening. The garden was lovely but as a vaper who had been at work all day it was annoying having to leave the garden for a vape when i just wanted to chill.i`m fine with them choosing to do that but it wasnt mentioned anywhere before we went and i wouldnt have gone there if we knew. there was a long wait for food which we were made aware of but then the starters came with the mains which was odd. overall a lovely venue but i wouldnt go back.
michKent . 2022-08-14
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My husband went for a walk in the morning and found this wonderfully quaint pub at the end of his walk. He took me there for a meal that evening a couple of days ago and I fell in love with everything about it. The man behind the bar was so warm and friendly as we spoke about the history of it. Great stories which had me intense hooks the photos on the wall are amazing giving it lots of ambiance- what a treat felt like we were stepping in time- beautiful garden and wonderful food. Amazing. Definitely will be one of our regulars x keep doing what you are doing x Maria and Ian.
MariaM22480 . 2022-08-08
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What a lovely pub. Great for a pub lunch on a summers day. Great beer, and great food. Definitely coming back.
Matthew Wilson . 2022-08-06
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Had a nice drink here. Really friendly staff, great food served fast and an interesting garden ornament or two as well!
Adam Webb . 2022-07-31
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Bucolic and somewhat lost place in the southern English countryside. The food is good, the staff is friendly. The tables and seats have suffered from time but that doesn't take away from the charm!
Go Johnn . 2022-07-21
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Nice garden, friendly host. Great location, inexpensive food, but we didn't try it.
Jacqueline Summer . 2022-06-10
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Lovely food, beautiful location, friendly staff, what's not to love 😊
katie wood . 2022-05-06
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The food was great. I loved the dessert. Great service. But the price a bit steep.
Catherine Creighton . 2022-05-02
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Sat in the garden eating a delicious BBQ bacon burger after a walk in the woods....doesn't get much better than the Rose and Crown 👑
Chris Smith . 2022-04-20
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Lovely little country pub, friendly staff and very good meals. Lovely garden out back too.
sue spearman . 2022-02-26
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Well run country pub with great beer and good food. Ideal for walking in Perrywood and finishing with some well earned refreshments.
Geoff Dear . 2022-02-11
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Nice little spot in Perry woods to stop for a tipple on your outdoor adventures.
Pete Fortvilelse . 2022-02-09
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We have been going to The Rose and Crown regularly over many years, sadly not so often in the last 20 months. However we did go and eat in the garden when we were allowed and back into the pub when eating was allowed Today we were able to go back into the pub and have lunch. It was as lovely as ever, Tim welcomed us and told us that trade was picking up. We had a lovely meal by the fire and can't wait to go back
sparky49Kent . 2022-02-01
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Great food and excellent dessert
Mark Draper . 2022-01-29
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Great pub. Great landlord. Always a pleasure to visit 👍🍺
tom Gladman . 2022-01-14
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Myself and a large group of friends visited this establishment today as break in our annual walk. The serving staff were lovely but the landlady made us feel very unwelcome and as if we were a nuisance. We would have been happy to stay for much longer if not for her attitude and left promptly after one drink. 2 stars only for the other staff, but will not be returning here in a hurry.
Mneame101 . 2022-01-02
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Great pub, great food and the owners work so hard to create and deliver a traditional country pub atmosphere.
Jonathan Reeves . 2022-01-02
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Really nice setting and relaxed atmosphere.
John Dennis . 2021-12-11
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Lovely food, decent beer. Nice warm pub.
Peter Ogilvie . 2021-11-20
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Three of us had the loveliest of lunches today at The Rose & Crown. Good hearty, tasty, wholesome food in a lovely country pub. The menu had a really good selection to choose from and the food we had was plentiful and of good quality. The staff were attentive, friendly and welcoming. The bar area was cosy and warm and there is also a lovely garden for the summer months too. We look forward to returning soon!
Lynn P . 2021-11-06
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Came here on a Sunday for lunch. I had meat pudding which was lovely and my husband had a Brie burger which he said was exceptionally good. I finished with the apple and caramel pie and custard which was very good. The staff were friendly and helpful. Our dog was made welcome and offered a treat. Overall a lovely afternoon, can’t wait to come again!
Redteddy11 . 2021-10-15
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Perfect place for a pub meal. Welcoming atmosphere. Lovely surroundings
Michel Devroey . 2021-09-26
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I went for a long walk in Perry Wood with the intention of having lunch and a couple of drinks in this lovely looking pub. Unfortunately, after waiting almost 10 minutes at a not particularly busy bar I gave up and went to the White Lion down the road. I will give it another try and hopefully the lady serving will be able to cope better.
Steve Taverner . 2021-09-16
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Fantastic location, food, drink and prices. Excellent quality, service and ambiance. One to visit on a regular basis. Came back again in early September and brilliant value as before. Shame to be relocating far away from such a gem
Stuart Capel . 2021-09-12
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Sunny day, shaded garden. Good food/service. Great company. Well worth another visit!
Alec Jennings . 2021-09-11
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Lovely friendly pub. Beautiful beer garden. Really friendly kind staff. Delicious food.
Ritchie Rosson . 2021-09-07
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Found this pub by accident when it rained. Lovely old pub atmosphere with Harvey's beer and great food. The ten mile walk afterwards wasn't bad either!
john pelham . 2021-09-01
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We have been to the rose and Crown a number of times. Always welcomed with a smile. Service is brilliant. Friendly staff. Wonderful menu - plenty of options for meat eaters, vegetarian and vegans- being a vegetarian it’s always nice to have more than one option on the menu. Since we’ve had our little boy we have gone to the rose and crown much more- they are wonderful and friendly towards us but they are extremely friendly towards our little boy & always ask about him which is so personal & lovely. Food is amazing. Drink selection brilliant. Lovely in the summer months in their beautiful garden but also wonderful in the winter with the lovely warm log fire burning away. A beautiful pub tucked away in the woods- dog friendly & what is just brilliant is that the pub is now smoke free. We have had many of lovely meals there and will continue to have more lovely meals there.
amyjQ6127EZ . 2021-08-30
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Myself and 3 friends had lunch today the food was excelant along wuth the staff and beer. Would i go back yes. Thank you really great Sunday lunch (Lamb) yummy.
Raymond Hickton . 2021-08-15
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Lovely food, beautiful an peaceful garden to dine in next to the chickens.
Poppy Rivett . 2021-08-12
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Nice people, nice food, lovely garden and great stop off after a dogwalk through the woods.
Melissa Lee . 2021-07-21
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One of our favourite places! Wonderful country pub, Great Food and drink, Lovely garden area. Always a warm welcome and dog friendly too. You can also go for an enjoyable walk through the lovely Woodland before and/or after.
C335UXchrisl . 2021-07-18
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We got rather lost on a walk to find The Rose and crown but as soon as we arrived we received a warm welcome from the young lady behind the bar. Lovely draft beer. Sat in the beautiful peaceful garden and said hello to the chickens :) Didn't stay long enough to sample the food but will definitely be back soon !
Angie Matthews . 2021-07-11
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An excellent pub. Lovely garden. Friendly host. Had the steak and ale pie with vegetables and goats cheese starter. Very relaxing
PhilipN572 . 2021-06-14
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Lovely country style pub, great food, and fantastic staff... Definitely be visiting again.. Thanks guys
damieno503 . 2021-06-06
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Lovely friendly country pub, with garden and chickens Really nice spot
Victoria paine . 2021-06-06
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Delicious food, pleasant host, lovely garden
alket marku . 2021-06-03
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My partner and I visited this evening for a meal, absolutely delicious and filling, perfect portion sizes, my partners beef was ‘the best he has ever had’.Fab service and the lady was very friendly and chatted to us which was lovely. Would recommend a visit to enjoy this lovely gem! Garden looked brilliant, covid secure pub and really pretty place/location. We will be retuning very soon.Thank you.
H4038KAdaisyc . 2021-06-03
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I met up with friends today for lunch at the Rose & Crown. The food was lovely, the pub garden is just beautiful, and the service was great and really friendly, thank you so much.
claires439 . 2021-06-02
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Kate and Tim made us feel very welcome, we are new to the area and Pub. Great hosts, lovely sociable people. Food was amazing, environment lovely and surroundings beautiful. We booked a table for a different night before we left. Would highly recommend
K7233EHlouisec . 2021-05-29
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After a nice walk through the woods, it was great to have lunch at “Rose and Crown”. I would love to thank all the staff for their great service and delicious food served. I highly recommend it and can not wait to come back soon.
JorgeGonzalez123 . 2021-05-01
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Had fab beer, chips and macaroni cheese. Absolutely yummy. Sat in beer garden out of breeze. Reall good puds too and friendly attentive staff.
Martin . 2021-04-25
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Friendly staff, good outside space, drinks on dearer side
Martins Zalkovskis . 2021-04-25
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We visited this pub after lovely local walk in woods. Welcoming and friendly staff working extra hard in these difficult times. Great burgers and puddings. Thanks!
Jane . 2021-04-17
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We found this Pub on a walk and it was closed. Finally visited when they were open after lock down eased and NOT disappointed. First visit was for lunch and very tasty baguettes, sausage one and BLT, with a nice Merlot and excellent pint of Harvey's Best. Second visit in the evening and again, very tasty and excellent food. The steak and ale pie was one of the best I have had and the Chilli was good as well. Back after lock down again. Still great. Cov19 precautions taken seriously. You can't be a hand pulled beer.
Mark Catton . 2021-04-15
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My wife and I found this pub about 18 months ago.We both enjoy it enormously and try to eat there once a week. The virus forced us into the garden when reopening in July but what a garden. Apparently they had spent a lot of time and effort improving it and it showed. The food is excellent and the beer is Harveys ( and is kept very well ).Obviously we went back inside when the weather turned and the landlord had made it as safe as possible. We were relaxed.Thoroughly recommend this pub.
419colinf . 2020-11-14
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V.nice lunch in a fabulous setting!
Janet Duggan . 2020-11-04
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