Based on 1.653 opinions finded in 2 websites
Based on 1.653 opinions finded in 2 websites
Nº 181 in 338 in St Edmundsbury
Nº 33 of 69 British in St Edmundsbury
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Excellent service! Staff friendly and helpful. We were a party of six and everyone enjoyed their food, it was all absolutely delicious.
Mika . 2024-12-15
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A lively pub. The standard pub food menu. Nothing special but perfectly adequate, well presented and attentive staff.
Steve Hinton . 2024-12-13
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Early evening meal before a visit to the cinema. Very busy with people wanting to eat, quite a few 'oldies'. Unfortunately front of house only two on duty including manager(ess). one young man collecting and cleaning. Head office cost cutting!
Ian Houlder . 2024-12-13
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Decent food and staff are always friendly and welcoming. The only problem we have is the last couple of occasions, we get told its table service but end up ordering at the bar as the waiting staff don't come to our table. Last time, we had a table of 6 and I personally took everyone's orders and ordered it at the bar because nobody came. The staff need to make it clear as it was very mix messages and can be annoying. I don't know if they were short staffed? But either way just make it clear!
Ice Boy . 2024-12-09
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Worst meal I've ever had. The lettuce on the prawn starter was browning. The prawns still had half their shells on. The vegetables for the main were disgusting. Frozen potatoes, very dry. Frozen sprouts hard in the middle and overcooked on the outside. Cauliflower had seen better days. The salmon overcooked and dry. Thankgoodness we neever had a dessert. Staff were excellent.
Diane Warden . 2024-12-08
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We visited Wednesday lunchtime for a quick lunch whilst in the area. The pub was really busy and staff were obviously under pressure but we were able to get a table. We ordered the senior citizen lunch option, 2 courses for £7.99 which was recommended by another customer standing next to me at the bar. 2 fish and chips were brought to the table with a smile by Maisie in reasonable time, bearing in mind the number of Christmas lunch parties and how busy they were. Maisie and Kim were working quickly around the tables but were able to make diners feel welcome and valued. Our very adequate portion of fish and chips arrived within about 15 minutes, well cooked and well presented, fish was lovely and enough chips for us. We also had a dessert and left completely full after a pleasant hour or so, a sociable and jolly interlude to our day.
Janet Wesley . 2024-12-06
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A Christmas party of 10 this Wednesday. Great food beautifully cooked and presented. Service very efficient and friendly. Altogether a very positive experience. Well done! ✅
Bob Jones . 2024-12-06
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I wasn't over impressed with the food, but it's a nice pub with a comfortable atmosphere. The staff were friendly and attentive.
Alan Chattell . 2024-11-22
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Great local pub, fantastic staff and wonderful atmosphere. Family and dog friendly!
Liz Nishibata . 2024-11-22
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Great service Dog friendly and people friendly though my dog has more friends here than me
Joseph Bullard . 2024-11-21
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Had a lovely meal good choice and good value for money
Linda Sully . 2024-11-14
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Had several meals here, as generally good value & handy position on edge of Bury Town. Like the atmosphere & friendly helpful staff.
John Everett . 2024-11-12
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There is few of us who stopped honing some time ago, some great changes by the management team had hit it back to its best. Great job Martin, Josie, Lee and all the team. It’s nice to be back.
localtravler12 . 2024-11-11
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We've come here many times as a big group for birthdays, special occasions and they've never failed to disappoint. Today, we came again and Maisie was brilliant, her customer service was exceptional especially as we had 3 young children with us. The food was brilliant and they catered brilliantly for a dairy free allergy. Thank you all!
Steph A . 2024-11-06
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We've come here many times as a big group for birthdays, special occasions and they've never failed to disappoint. Today, we came again and Maisie was brilliant, her customer service was exceptional especially as we had 3 young children with us. The food was brilliant and they catered brilliantly for a dairy free allergy. Thank you all!
Steph Asquith-Turner . 2024-11-06
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Good overall exoerience. We're we sat it wasnt very warm.
Cynthia Morgan . 2024-11-04
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Attended for a friends birthday. Very welcoming. Nice food at a responsible price. First class service
jacqui wood . 2024-11-04
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Excellent pub with a great atmosphere. The staff were friendly and welcoming. Nothing was too much trouble. The food was good and service was quick and smooth. Overall a lovely pub to visit and if you’re a dog owner it’s nice to know that you can bring them along too.
Krystle B . 2024-11-02
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This is a really cold pub no heating ask the lady behind the bar and she said it's always like this !! No wonder Iguy had his coat scarf and hat on when we walked in .
Paul W . 2024-10-31
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Staff are so helpful and kind. Josie suggested the Swiss burger and it was lovely. Would highly recommend coming to this pub. Thank you tollgate team. Martin and Josie run a good pub well done!
Josh Pearce . 2024-10-25
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Amazing service the burger and beer deal is amazing. Josie and Kim are very helpful and friendly. Staff are all rushed of their feet it still gave top service but definitely need more staff on. Will definitely return
linh b . 2024-10-24
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kim and josie at amazing and very friendly. food is really good as well the burger and pint deal what a bargain. this need to stay on all year around. Staff always seem to be rushed off there feet definitely need more people on. but will definitely return
Oli Fris . 2024-10-24
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Great service from very friendly staff, really good food.
Andy Walls . 2024-10-19
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We had a table booked for 10 people for my mums 80th birthday. The service was excellent and the young lady Josie went above and beyond to make it a special night. The food all came out together and was piping hot, delicious and tasty. Thank you again for a wonderful evening.
Lorraine Martin . 2024-10-19
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Highly recommend the Tollgate for great food, nice drinks & a great atmosphere. Staff are always friendly & provided a great service, Billy is a great part of the team.
Paul Luxford . 2024-10-18
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Such a lovely pub to be in. Food is outstanding and so are the staff. Big shout out to Josie she was so helpful and knew exactly what I was asking for. Would highly recommend.
Daniel Bathie . 2024-10-18
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Great place to go for a drink with friends. Food was great, Josie was amazing. Definitely recommend - will visit again!!
Jonny A . 2024-10-18
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Popped into the Tollgate to grab myself an ice cold drink as let's face it, it's not the same grabbing a bottle from the local shop fridge! Tollgate did not disappoint....look at the condensation on that glass! Icy cold, super fizzy diet coke on tap. Martin and the staff are very friendly and welcoming, and the ambience of the whole pub is amazing. Will definitely come back with family and friends for food :D
Lynsey Brown . 2024-10-17
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Great food, awesome service, really nice people. I certainly recommend:)
Daniel Straw . 2024-10-17
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Josie was exceptionally helpful and cheerful
Shaun Taylor . 2024-10-17
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Friendly staff good service. Food always good when we come,we would highly recommend
Percy Thurlow . 2024-10-17
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Amazing pub, fantastic food. Staff are all friendly and approachable. Highly recommend!
Ryan Easton . 2024-10-17
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Absolutely lovely food, very friendly always very good service. Will definitely return again.
Courtney Staight . 2024-10-16
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Very good service and amazing people. One of the young lady’s maisy is absolutely lovely and very good with my little boy :)
Ollie gaunt . 2024-10-16
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My day for my aunty birthday was so lovely a she had a amazing time leigh my aunty had a good leigh Is a gangster he is so nice Your fanfly an 9 year old kid myah
Cheryl Spencer . 2024-10-14
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Josie is outstanding. Very helpful with the burger and pint deal. Food came out really fast and tasted amazing 5 stars all around
linh blunden . 2024-10-11
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The Rump steak was cooked to perfection 😁
Michael Summers . 2024-10-08
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Great selection of food and drinks, helpful staff and decent portion sizes. There wasn't enough indoor space for the 7 people in our group, but the outdoor shelter had sufficient heaters to keep us warm while we ate
Stuart Gearty . 2024-09-25
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really good and honest pub great food
Matt Whitwell . 2024-09-22
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Couldn't fault food or service. Thank you.
Colin Saunders . 2024-09-16
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Spent the evening here for my nans birthday. Staff were lovely especially maisie. Always very welcoming and friendly. Definitely recommend.
bobbie taylor . 2024-09-13
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Fabulous service from the moment we walked in,food was delicious, best burger I've had in a long time and highly recommend the katsu chicken. Special mention to kye,great genuine customer service👏👍
Philip Martin . 2024-09-12
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Just stopped in for a drink on a hot day and found a lovely pub with great beer garden. Nice selection of drinks and served with a friendly smile.
Lee Cheesmur . 2024-09-09
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Maisie was extremely helpful and accommodating to our requests , food was better than expected will be back soon for another delightful experience , bar staff fabulous too , happy house very enjoyable and the price meal deal was too good to be true give how good the quality of the food was! So thanks again see you again soon 😃
India L . 2024-09-07
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Went for a family meal food was excellent service was very good would recommend..
Ady Barnard . 2024-09-06
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Lovely garden and friendly staff
hayley brand . 2024-09-06
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Great garden. Friendly atmosphere. Would have been nice to have been offered sauces with dinner as no mustard on table. Staff very friendly and polite. They remember you in your next visit so you feel youre with friends.
Mags Brennan . 2024-09-06
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Great meal alongside friendly and welcoming staff. Martin the manager came over to check everything was fine with our visit and made us feel very comfortable. Really satisfied with our lunch and the pub ultimately is great venue to be enjoyed by all. Will definitely be returning.
Rob B . 2024-09-05
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Great atmosphere, friendly pub. Unfortunately the plates were baking hot but the food on it was ice cold. Which only suggests that the food had been cooked well in advance of ordering.
Nigel Kanyemba . 2024-09-02
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Visited in August for a friends 80th birthday. Service was superb. The whole team were wonderful. Maisie was an absolute star 🌟
Novyj . 2024-09-01
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I was staying in a hotel close by. Its food selection was not good. Decided to go to the Tollgate. Reviews were good so thought it would be better than average Green King's. garlic bread starter was larger and tasted like it had been warmed in a microwave. The mixed grill was very average.
Ian F . 2024-08-28
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We went here for family meal and been disappointed. We wait for our meal so long and when it's arrived my ordered sirloin stake was so dry and cooked not I like it. Send it back to the kitchen. My husband and daughter finished them meals till I wait for replacement. Other thing was lack of communication between staff. At the bar we ordered meal for our daughter + desert and desert didn't arrived as waitress sayed we don't have it (after we wait about 30 minutes).
Ema L . 2024-08-26
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Great local, service was excellent, pleased to have The Tollgate as our local.
Ben Woods . 2024-08-24
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Very friendly staff food really hot and quick service. Lovely venue
Maureen Gladwell . 2024-08-22
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Lovely garden. Great choice of drinks. Good menu selection. Poor quality food.
Pennie Rogers . 2024-08-22
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Great Green King family pub with a good size garden and a welcoming team to host your visit.
Nev Everett . 2024-08-18
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Me and my two friends were served by Leigh who made us laugh and made us feel welcome at our visit to the tollgate. We were sat in the patio outside area and the atmosphere and the vibe of the premises was positive and happy. The bar staff were very helpful with recommending gin flavours and other food related options. The waiting time for our food was brilliant, no issues or delays and the food itself was delicious, no complaints! We are definitely coming here again on future meals out!
Danielle Robertson . 2024-08-18
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Can’t comment too much on the pub itself as only had a drink. The outside beer garden is really well done. Loads of tables and good atmosphere on a sunny afternoon or warm evening. Prices of drink seemed reasonable.
Gareth Norman . 2024-08-13
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The squid was tasteless the halloumi cheese was burn
Richard M . 2024-08-10
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The pub is beautiful and the food is always excellent. The staff are friendly and welcoming. I go there with my disabled client and they are amazing. They are a credit to your business. I highly recommend this wonderful inclusive establishment.
Josephine Cook . 2024-07-29
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Incredible atmosphere, served by Maisie.. amazing service!
Thomas Boreham . 2024-07-26
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I came with my sister's on the 21st July and were served by Maisie who delivered our meals to the table with a smile. Great service and food was delicious . Thanks maisie
Leah Thomas . 2024-07-21
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Nice for a snack and drink with friends. Often go, would recommend.
Denise Newman . 2024-07-19
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Great, came in with my family from New Zealand ....3 minutes before close of food orders but Josie very happy to take order .... sorry chef! but your food was great food was hot and very tasty. ... such friendly staff .... will deffinitely be back soon.
Donna Haste . 2024-07-18
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My server Maisie was spectacular and very personable, would recommend her to every guest that comes to the establishment.
Kaleb Gifford . 2024-07-17
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Lovely time! Great atmosphere, love the open space, and great staff service, our waitress, Maisie, was very kind. Would come back again!
Brooklyn Marable . 2024-07-17
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Had a lovely lunch with friends, was served by Kim what a lovely, helpful member of staff, she did not stop but was still so friendly and checking us and other tables needed anything. Brilliant member of your team
Evelyn Brown . 2024-07-15
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First visit here. Will be back. Lovely helpful staff, extensive menu, plenty of offers and the meal today was very tasty.
Lesley . 2024-07-13
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Service was amazing. Maisie was our waitress and you couldn't ask for better service. Great place to have a drink and enjoy to outside garden
Colter Williams . 2024-07-13
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Food was great along with the atmosphere of the tollgate! I was served by Maisie who was lovely and attentive and helped towards an amazing night. Her smile and positive attitude really came off and was very contagious. Definitely coming back
kieron nunn . 2024-07-13
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Maisy is amazing, wow how great, beers fine, pied piper says he agrees, love it here, always come back ! Best place in bury
Alex T . 2024-07-13
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I’ve had a lovely time here. We were served by Joshua who was an utter delight. Nothing was too much trouble. He was charismatic, helpful and attentive. It’s rare to see these days especially in the younger generation but I really just had to highlight Joshua and the impact he made on our visit! Thanks so much Josh for your time and conversation. We will definitely be back.
Hilly27 . 2024-07-12
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Pleasant meal. Attentive staff.
Karen M . 2024-07-12
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My husband, our poodle Lola and I come every week for lunch because the good is great, good value for money and the staff are the best.
judy pamment . 2024-07-12
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Great friendly staff, good pub for family meals, all that has served us have been amazing, most recently Kate S, Maisie A, Josh L, chefs: Leigh G, Marcus G and the rest of the team! Dogs are welcome which is lovely, outside garden perfect in summer, great food, highly recommend :) x
Kayleigh Cirket . 2024-07-12
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Wonderful pub, fantastic staff and always a warm welcome. Dog treats behind the bar and water bowls brought out are a great touch. Happily return often.
L B . 2024-07-11
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A Greeneking pub but not great, we decided to ear here whilst in the area visiting our son and the other greenekings were busy, I can see why, the table numbers are written on the limited menu holders in a dark colour so we couldn't see it and it wasn't pointed out to us, I had a blue light card but was unable to get the app code up due to poor Internet, they wouldnt accept the physical card and would usually have a bar code behind the till, these didn't, the roast was all overcooked and beef full of hard fat, Yorkshire pudding black in places and disintegrated when I tried to cut it, the strawberry Eaton mess had a very Sharpe mixed berry compote in it which was not edible, on top of that the lights are so low my son smacked his head off one, considering bury is the home of greeneking perhaps management should leave there offices and sort this place out, at £65 for a two course meal was very expensive and very disappointing
Mr H . 2024-07-10
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i took my family to celebrate my birthday and we had a great lunch and exellent service throughout. i will certainly be going again.
Peter B . 2024-07-08
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it was OK food was good but if you get the wrong food thay just say sorry and when you pay your bill and thay make a mistake thay ring you up to tell you even when you have paid it but I would go back it was a lovely day whether thay would have me back after my review
Darren Clark . 2024-07-03
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Beef Bourginon and a pint of Abbott £20.60. Food was ok, if a little pricey, but did not come with crispy onions as advertised. Meat was tender, and a good chunk!
Nick Elks . 2024-06-26
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I took my mum there today for lunch. As always Kim and Martin were fab! Service, food, attention to detail was amazing! Would highly recommend! !
Claire H . 2024-06-24
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Took family out for a meal something for everyone on the menu and it was plentiful and hot staff lovely a table was found for us (6) even though it was a Sunday and father's day x
ingrid cartlidge . 2024-06-22
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Monthly bike meet. They always look after us. Good food and great service.
Paul Burningham . 2024-06-18
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I just left the pub with a big smile. The service was amazing, and the Sunday roast was the best I've ever had in a pub! Thank you, Martin, for your exceptional kindness and service. I can't wait to come back for another roast!
Robert Burlui . 2024-06-16
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Came for father's day with family had a very enjoyable roast dinner i had the lamb shank was very tasty and just came off the bone nice and tender. No complaints at all. The staff were brilliant and good prices. Would definitely come again.
Laura Whiley . 2024-06-16
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Had a roast dinner and have to say 1 of the best I have ever tasted. Service was fantastic and done with a smile couldn't ask for a better experience
Matthew Weeds . 2024-06-16
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Excellent service, food really good,fresh.supurb. definitely recommend this place.
sue seeley . 2024-06-16
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Had a lovely meal here, recommended.
Phil Rush . 2024-06-13
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Pub was a bit empty, but bar staff very friendly and service excellent. Good menu choice, including seniors, vegan, vegetarian and child options. Will definitely be visiting again.
Steve Walker . 2024-06-11
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Went for lunch here on Sunday. I definitely won't be going back. We ordered roast beef dinners... apparently the beef is served pink. Sounds delicious! Unfortunately our came out grey... Yorkshires that we're flatter than pancakes.. Cauliflower cheese that was cold and so over cooked it resembled baby food. All the vegetables were over cooked. When it was served it was slammed on the table. We had to go and ask for cutlery which was also slammed on the table! No napkins no offer of any horseradish or mustard. Overall not a great experience. The chef need to stick to his day job which clearly isn't cooking!
Tina Warren . 2024-06-11
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Ordered a lamb shank with mash and peas.but couldn't eat it as one side was hot and the other side was luke warm . And my partner had hamburger chips the chip was covered in slat which he dont take salt on his food and the hamburger was like rubber. So he didn't eat his. But the waitress did refund us the money back and apologised. Was a shame as I was looking forward to eating g my dinner. Will I go back no waste of time and money. But bar staff 10/10 for there service and friendly and polite response to us
Kelly Kempster . 2024-06-10
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Brilliant music, lovely Sunday lunch, staff were friendly and attentive and a credit to the pub. Was only visiting over the weekend but will definitely pop in again.
rachel vann . 2024-05-29
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This is the little pub not far away from us, we love coming here for a quick bite to eat. My kids have their regular food they know and love. My favorite is the chicken/mushroom special they have had for a while. Highly suggest for good food and a nice place to chill - they have lots of outdoor seating for the whole family.
Kayla K. . 2024-05-28
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New to Bury and have been trying to eat at a new place every time. Stopped here yesterday and the atmosphere was unbeatable. Beautiful garden with wonderful views. Good food at a decent price.
Jeremy Webb . 2024-05-22
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Enjoyed a lovely meal here today, with excellent service from MAISIE
Matthew Paul Elliott . 2024-05-20
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Very nice meal today and first class service from Liam. Thank you.
Kelister Todd . 2024-05-19
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Popped in for a light bite and was not disappointed , the king prawn and chorizo in bravas sauce was gorgeous as was the rustic rosemary and olive oil focaccia served alongside to mop up the bravas sauce. The food was hot and served with a friendly smile and chat from Kim . I can always guarantee a warm welcome and great food.
carolesB4658AD . 2024-05-10
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Disappointing, when we arrived we were shown to our table and that was it, no information about whether we ordered at the table or at the bar. Whilst some may think it’s a pub and therefore obvious, a quick word of advice would not have gone amiss. Also would have been helpful to be told what was not available from the menu, would have saved a lot of time.
255alanr . 2024-05-06
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A wonderful lady called Kim served us and she was amazing! So kind and attentive. The food was awesome as it has been every time we have visited this restaurant/pub Would highly recommend Very reasonable prices too !
Linda F . 2024-05-06
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I could not fault the meal,i opted for Hunter chicken,My wife had chicken strips and a steak . Served by Kim. The pub was clean,toilets in good order,gardens were clean tidy.
martin g . 2024-05-02
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Was given a £50.00 token for my birthday. Booked and went today. Dressed smartly. Parked in car park which was full of puddles and ended up entering the hotel with muddy boots and trousers. Felt embarrassed but needn't have worried. Receptionist was busy on the phone so found our own way to restaurant. We both ordered beef. Literally couldn't cut it, the potatoes were also tough (reheated?). The waitress asked us if everything was ok and I pointed out the beef and potatoes. She offered us a steak knife which we took. I gave up with my beef and potatoes my husband valiantly carried on. The puddings were good. The hotel had the vibe of a hostel, the clientele wondering around in jeans, wellies and trainers, lots of children running around (I was told later on that this was a family hotel), we had people with stocking feet, wellies and dressing gowns in the restaurant. The staff were great but the food was not. When we received the bill we saw a discount of £6.00 on it, I asked what this was for and apparently this was supposed to cover the meal I couldn't eat.
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Went for our annual work Christmas Dinner. Given a welcome drink of prosecco or elderflower, as the non-alcoholic option on arrival. The elderflower was scarcely present, unfortunately there was little difference between it and lukewarm water. Seemed to take an age to be taken through to the dinning hall, despite apparently needing to be at the venue for 6.30. There was no option to open a bar tab - at the bar which had no coke, no lime cordial, no white tequila, only one white wine - so it was complete chaos trying to organise buying the drinks! Eventually taken through to a very nicely laid out dinning hall and seated. Those who wanted another drink before our meal had to go back upstairs, after finding me to come and pay for it. Very inconvenient. The meal started to come out after 8pm - everyone was really hungry. The starter choice was a fig tart, or prawn cocktail. The prawn cocktail was absolutely miniscule - 3 prawns in a little sauce on a little lettuce leaf, it's a good job there was a small bread roll at each place setting! A good 30 minutes after rhe starter had been cleared the main came out - turkey (which was cooked nicely) 3 tiny new potatoes (no roast potatoes) a couple of sprouts, carrots and parsnips, with gravy. A very very disappointing 'turkey roast' without roast potatoes or stuffing. Dessert was either Christmas pudding or raspberry and lemon trifle, which consisted of 3 squares of soggy jellied sponge, some green dots and a spot of custard covered with a squirt of cream. In no way did it resemble a trifle. Even getting a tea or coffee was not possible until the station was 'opened' thought there was no indication whatsoever that it was closed until 9.30! When a member of staff was asked we were told that the doors are closed and nobody should be out there trying to get hot drinks until it was announced as open. All in all a very disappointing meal served by mainly surly servers. The evening lacked any kind of Christmas feel about it from start to finish. Won't be going back or recommending