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Nº 136 in 393 in Waveney

Nº 35 of 119 British in Waveney

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Room lovely and spacious with a large shower. Hilary and Roger provided a good breakfast and welcoming atmosphere. Had a good 3 day break with them considering the current restrictions. Will be returning.

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Toni D . 2020-08-03

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Great place to stay this is our 2nd visit will be returning, very welcoming & great breakfast. Only now used as B & B but excellent and good value.Very clean. Great couple.

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martin p . 2018-09-17

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One Night stay. Everywhere was very clean our room comfortable and contained all you would expect in a B&B. The breakfast choice was good and served in a lovely dining room/lounge area. Highly recommend.

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yewdee . 2018-08-16

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Such a great couple,great food ,they can't do enough for you,our second visit,will be going again,very close to all the nice places to visit,thankyou😀

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ggymer . 2017-08-13

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Este pub ya no está abierta. (aún no Cama y desayuno). Ha sido cerrado por algún tiempo. Cuando estaba abierto yo diría que la comida era bastante pobre y no fue una elección horrible para los vegetarianos.

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Alison B . 2017-04-10

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We stayed for 2 nights over the August bank holiday weekend and were really impressed. The room is clean, spacious and 'functional'. The breakfast was great and our hosts Roger and Hilary were warm and attentive, but not overbearing or intrusive. A nice place to stay as a weekend get away if you don't want to spend a fortune and enjoy some of the beautiful places nearby... as there's plenty!

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Helsbels82_11 . 2016-08-29

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Stayed here at the B & B in July, 15 and found the room very comfortable and had a most enjoyable breakfast. The owners were very helpful and friendly. We had dinner in the Queens Head in Blyburgh which was a very short car journey away. Most enjoyable stay - would recommend it to anyone.

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Karen J . 2016-07-11

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This is another very worthy review for The Nelson. Despite the change of use during 2015 The Nelson doesn't disappoint as a B & B. Everything from the moment of arrival is just excellent. The hosts, Hilary and Roger clearly continue to take great pride in the hospitality they offer visitors and yet again we have been absolutely delighted with our stay ... this time over the Christmas period. The Nelson offers great value, great service and a wonderfully friendly atmosphere. Situated in the village of Holton it affords a good location for those who wish to explore the surrounding area. For us it provides a "home from home" atmosphere when we visit relatives in the area. Well done to the hosts..... see you in 2016!!

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DB1Essex . 2015-12-28

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The room and place was lovely for the price, we were very pleasantly surprised. However, there were no laundry facilities or fridge that we could use so we couldn't store food... We didn't ask though so not necessarily the fault of the owners, they had recently closed the pub section and just become a B&B so no doubt there was a period of adjustment and if we had caught them to ask maybe they would have worked it out. But there was no mini fridge in the room and minimal cutlery (i.e. just a teaspoon for the free tea and coffee). The owners were friendly, gracious and helpful and the rooms were lovely - just an idea to add some amenities such as maybe clearly defined access to a shared kitchen/fridge. We loved it here, thank you!!

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gilchrist379 . 2015-10-28

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I have just enjoyed another 1st Class stay at The Nelson B & B. The hosts, Hilary and Roger, go out of their way to make guests welcome and provide quality accomodation along with an excellent breakfast at very reasonable rates. Nestled in the village of Holton visitors to this lovely B & B will find it provides all the comfort needed for a relaxing break away. Don't just take my word for it.... check it out!! I don't think you'll be disappointed!!

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DB1Essex . 2015-10-17

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Stayed here for one night - £80 b & b - lovely room with everything you could wish for - only slight draw back was the lack of shower power! Breakfast was good. Its is such a shame that the local community no longer have a pub they can walk too - for a small village it is a necessity.

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Sue S . 2015-08-18

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Have visited twice recently the first time the pub was closed but to-day there was a notice suggesting it was no longer open as a public house just a B & B. Real shame as I wanted to try it and their ales as part of the 'Woodfordes brewery ale trail'. Oh well another pub 'bites the dust'

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Tim S . 2015-08-02

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NOW CLOSED ! We were recommended to try this bar restaurant by our hosts,only to find it had peremptorily closed without prior notice,even to local patrons.Now it appears to offer B&B accommodation only.

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413MikeB413 . 2015-07-28

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My wife and I ate at the Nelson this evening. Nice clean pub and restaurant, looks recently redecorated. Quite quiet as you might expect mid-week away from the busy coastal towns but the food was very tasty indeed. I had the Duck and my wife the Pan Fried Chicken and we both commented on the good flavours. Second course was equally as good. Good service and reasonably priced. Would definitely recommend.

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Andy F . 2015-07-08

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Used the Lord Nelson as a base for a wedding. The owners are very friendly and helpfully, extremely welcoming. The room was wonderful. Spotlessly clean and comfortable with a great newly fitted bathroom. In a quiet location. Would definitely stay here again if back in the area.

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MarisaLH82 . 2015-07-05

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4 of us went fishing at Halesworth lakes and stayed at The Lord Nelson, Holton. Our expectations were low - we're fishermen, we were there for the fish, not the food or the decor! However.........we had a great experience: The welcome was friendly;The rooms were clean, nicely decorated/furnished;The food was excellent;It was good value;We felt the prices were reasonable for the high quality offered.All in all it was a lovely surprise. We will be going again.

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michael w . 2015-06-03

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Very friendly welcome. Decor of a good standard. Starters included baked mini Camembert with bread; pate and toast. Mains - roast beef, roast pork... I went for the vegetable curry which was absolutely delicious. Although portion sizes were good, some had room for dessert. Treacle tart is highly recommended. Good value for money. Would visit again.

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Horologist . 2015-05-19

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A Free House offering real ales and locally sourced food . Ample car parking and excellent bed and breakfast accommodation. A genuine welcome awaits all !Menus changed once a month. Well behaved dogs welcome.We attend on average 3 times per week. Look forward to seeing you !

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Geoff C . 2015-04-28

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Stopped in on a Sunday while out for a walk. Very welcoming atmosphere and friendly staff. Food was extremely tasty. Would definitely recommend the Lowestoft Smokie. Service was also excellent. If you are in the area you should grab a bite to eat here.

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Geo_Rox_123 . 2015-04-12

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Great meal here last night. Steak was superb and my husband had the veggie option which was delicious. Another great evening

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Ali601 . 2015-03-01

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My husband and I have eaten here several times. The food here is excellent, we always forgot to have a starter and main or a main and dessert as all three are just a little to filling. The only critisum I have about the menu is it doesn't change that often.I know the restaurant is trying to be modern but I do miss seeing a nice crisp table cloth and linen napkins in the evening, I do think this is a must. The other thing I feel the place lacks is atmosphere, the bar area is very friendly but the restaurant is a bit cold.Having said all this I will visit again and again.

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girlaloud10 . 2015-02-18

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We came here for our christmas do and I was amazed I had never been here before, just off the beaten track but the food and service was excellent. Very good portions and great value. Needs more recognition I feel

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Bumble1980 . 2014-12-28

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A recent visit to the The Nelson for a light lunch lent itself to booking an overnight stay. Well what a great find!!! Quitely tucked away this pub has simply lovely accomodation. Recently rerurbished but retaining all the charm the accomodation is superb. Well done to the hosts as their attention to detail is spot on!! We will definately be staying again!!

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DB1Essex . 2014-12-27

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The food was alright, but served on cold plates and my beef had more veins than a varacose clinic, thats not their fault though, I blame the cow

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Al-The-Polar-Bear . 2014-12-27

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Situated in the centre of Holton, a typical Suffolk village, The Nelson is a place where we have eaten many times and have never been dissapointed. The chef is brilliant and the landlord and landlady are very friendly, welcoming and helpful.The menu is varied and uses fresh Suffolk produce. The wine list is excellent, as are the beers, on tap. I would recommend it for any occasion, lunch or dinner.We have never stayed in the B&B but friends have told me the rooms are excellent, all recently refurbished and spotlessly clean, all en-suite

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Les S . 2014-12-22

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Fantastic accomodation very clean and welcoming. The owners were very freindly and offered a superb service. Mick & Sarah

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Mick D . 2014-12-14

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Once a month the Suffolk branch of the VOC (motorcyclists, mainly of the "more mature" variety)goes out and about for lunch somewhere in the region. The Landlord was most welcoming, the waiting staff were very attentive, service was quick.1,2, or 3 courses offered, good selection of dishes - we both went for three courses. Beef was absolutely spot on!

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johntheaccountant . 2014-10-27

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Stayed overnight on Saturday 4th October in room 1. Beautiful large room with big bathroom with a walk in shower. Very nicely presented, immaculate, spotlessly clean with crisp white sheets on a very comfortable bed. Unfortunately we did not eat here Saturday night but we did have Sunday lunch which was a good selection with also a choice of dishes other than a roast, all very reasonably priced with good friendly service. Would definitely recommend staying and eating here!

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Debbie S . 2014-10-06

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It is always nice to have a choice of vegetarian meals. Our latest meal at The Lord Nelson provided a choice of two vegetarian main meals. I opted for the roast vegetable timbale and was most impressed. Beautifully presented and tasted excellent. My husband chose the special which was chicken. He said it was a superior piece of meat, the vegetables were cooked to perfection in all a thoroughly enjoyable meal. Spoiled for choice in the pudding department I plumped fro the English cheeses and biscuits whilst my husband went for the brownie and ice cream. Service unobtrusive and efficient.Overall an excellent meal.

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MistressWeatherwax . 2014-09-01

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A fantastic weekend spent here. My family and I stayed here and were amazed by the service. The rooms were immaculate and everything was beautifully clean. The bathrooms were brilliant. Breakfast was delicious although slightly different to that of the standard full English. A fantastic array of food was provided for breakfast which accommodated everyone's tastes. The landlady was fantastic and even accommodated for my mothers gluten intolerance by purchasing gluten free bread for toast at breakfast. We returned to the pub for a private party of which was fantastic. The chef is incredible and provided an outstanding buffet. Dessert was phenomenal, and the meal was an overall phenomenon. The following morning my family who lived down the road joined us for breakfast at the B&B. The landlady was fine with them joining us guests for breakfast and handled serving 14 of us excellently. We all had a superb breakfast together.

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Harriet C . 2014-08-04

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I used to drink at this pub years ago when visiting family and am amazed at the sympathetic refurbishment the current owners have made. The old features have been retained but with very stylish modern facilities. My husband and I stayed here for a weekend back in April and were thoroughly spoilt as we were the only guests! We also dined here on the Saturday night and the food was very good and catered for all diets (I'm a veggie and options were delicious). They have a good selection of beers and both the bar area and restaurant were busy. The room was all we needed and very luxurious, with the best bed we've ever slept in! Breakfast was a treat with lots of options and a very good full English for hubbie! Highly recommended!

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PlentyOT . 2014-05-31

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Had a lovely meal here in the evening, the food was good and my steak was cooked to perfection. Very attentive service but not intrusive. I would recommend this restaurant and always book as it was busy.

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bedmac . 2014-05-20

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This was our first visit to The Lord Nelson in Holton and it will not be our last. It is conveniently located near to some friend we have in the area and provides B&B accommodation for 3 couples. The owners were extremely pleasant, the rooms were excellent and the food was delicious. We can certainly recommend this inn to anyone wishing to stay in the Halesworth area. Geoff & Chris Spain - Kent

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Geoff S . 2014-04-27

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We arrived in Holton at our rented accommodation on Friday evening and it was about 9pm so we thought we’d try the local pub (again). We’d had a long drive, unpacked and sorted ourselves out and walked to our “local” and could not believe that it was closed at just after 10pm. Are they running a pub? We’ve stayed in Holton before, tried to get to the pub, walked there at 6pm to find that it opens at 6.30! Very late for a pub opening. During our last stay, yet again, we tried again – after 6:30 pm and the door was locked – the outside lights were on though. This time we had to drive to another pub where we told them of our annoyance. The owner knew the pub and said “oh they only stay open if people are there - their days are numbered as they should stay open for the times they advertise”. This seems very sad for a pub in a village – especially when so many are closing. We would have thought that they would have wanted as much business as they could have obtained. There were four of us on Friday evening. We would have popped along for a few drinks which would have generated a good few bob. We were also going to use them for lunch or dinner on Saturday and again for lunch on Sunday but decided that, maybe, they might have been closed so didn’t want to chance it. They lost a lot of business/money - it must be very unsettling for the locals.…if they have any. Luckily if we have another trip to Holton, we have located a pub that opens – on time – and doesn’t close early.. Hence the reason for the low score is that we haven't been able to get there in the "opening" hours....although we gave a "5" for outside seating (obviously)

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simon e . 2014-04-08

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Would highly recommend this for Sunday lunch the décor is particularly nice and has been decorated to a high standard.The food was very good and we ordered off the special Sunday menu and had all 3 courses all of which were excellent.The owners Roger and Hilary were very attentive and could not have done more for us.

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Bernard C . 2014-03-19

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The Lord Nelson has been brought back to live. Very nice decor, and your hosts make feel very welcome. The night we went the chooses on the menu was small but very good and the food that came matched, well presented, great tasting and served at a nice pace.

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Nigel B . 2014-03-14

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Spent a lovely afternoon with old friends at this lovely pub. This was our first visit to The Lord Nelson and it will not be our last. We ate in Parker's restaurant, chose the Stilton and herring starter which was gorgeous followed by the local sausages with mash, onion gravy, finished with the chocolate brownie with sloe gin ice cream - amazing! Will definitely be returning with my husband for a romantic weekend, lovely village for exploring.

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joanne_phillips1 . 2014-03-08

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We spent the weekend at The Lord Nelson as my husband had a coastal photography course in nearby Southwold and Aldeburgh. The accommodation was gorgeous with William Morris wallpaper, a very comfortable bed and a spacious en-suite. We ate in Parkers Restaurant on both evenings and had really good food, well cooked and presented. Breakfast on both mornings was equally as good. Roger and Hilary really made us feel so welcome, and nothing was too much trouble. They also gave lots of pointers as to places to have coffee and eat in Southwold, as I was visiting the town whilst my husband did his photography. I would recomment both the restaurant for those in the local area and for those further afield the accomodation too as it is great.

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SmintyLondon . 2014-02-10

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Would definitely recommend The Nelson to anyone looking for a place to stay whilst visiting the Suffolk Coast. Only 4 miles from Halesworth with its Thoroughfare. The rooms are amazing and a cut above the rest. The Owner Roger and his partner make you really feel at home and nothing is too much trouble. Their chef Nick produces some of the best food I have eaten for a long time at a price well within everyones pocket. There is an offer on a Thursday lunchtime for Seniors which is main course and dessert for 5.95GBP. Lovely bar with open log fire and restaurant too.

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Spinxcat . 2014-01-17

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So it's 6.00pmn on New Years Eve and our plans are in tatters.Adnams have closed the pub in Southwold that we were planning on eating our traditional Fish and Chip farewell to the old year in, nowhere in Walberswick seems to be serving food, the satnav is sending us in odd directions on our wandering route home and suddenly we pass this roadside pub.A U-turn takes us back past it, the barman is alone, but the situation is dire and we take a chance.We are so grateful we did. If you have ever imagined a modernised version of the traditional country pub, where the stuff that was bad has been improved, and the stuff that was good has been built on, then the Lord Nelson is it.The owners have spent money on it, they have employed an excellent chef, they build a great log fire - but what makes this different and so well worth visiting is that they know what makes a pub work.Where was the landlord all through the evening? Not lurking in a back room adding up his takings, not flapping around his competent staff (Seemingly mostly family) and getting in their way, but out in the bar welcoming locals and strays like us equally.Everyone talks to everyone else, nobody is excluded, the atmosphere is as warm and welcoming as the log fire.The food - a set menu on this particular evening - was stunningly good. A short menu, perfectly balanced, well prepared, beautifully presented. Not cheap by 'pub' standards, but better than many full-blown restaurants we have been in that charge much more.Dog friendly too. A pub that keeps a stock of dog biscuits for its canine customers.We'll be going back. We hope to see many of you there, this is an enterprise that deserves to succeed.(No fish and chips though on New Years Eve. But the monkfish was delicious.

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Rob P . 2014-01-01

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Having grown up in the area I can't fault the upgrade of decor or choice of beers on tap. Aside from that it was over priced for the service, menu or standard of food.A few tips if you decide to visit:If you expect butter with your bread or any of balsamic and olive oil dip - ask for it or it will be served dryIf you are following a raw food diet, you'll love this place. Vegetables and handcut chips are definitely served on the rarer side.If you like your steak rare, ask for blue as medium and rare come served the same, although maybe skip the steak as it comes cooked in oil which should always be a no for a fatty steak.When it comes to sauce for the steak, don't confuse pepper with peppercorn...the pepper sauce was little more than an onion gravy...There is always a saving grace in a story and the dessert had to be that. Overall, though The Lord Nelson lacks lustre, has visions of grande and is ultimately a disappointment.

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Foodheavenseeker . 2013-12-28

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Have visited this pub to eat a couple of times. The reception is very warm - very nice staff so it's not surprising that there are plenty of seniors who enjoy the place. When the open fire is lit the ambiance is very cosy.The food we had was enjoyable and with hearty portions. If I had a quibble it is that with a couple of the dishes - the starters in particular - I would have been happier with a smaller portion with a bit more delicacy in the presentation. For example, the salmon and sour cream starter was only that: there was plenty of it and it was fresh, but it would have benefited imho from some toast or a more seasoned salad. This is intended to be helpful because there is a lot of local competion, and I would like to see the Nelson thrive as it has a very pleasant vibe.

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ratherhungry . 2013-12-07

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but it is not a pib now, it is a restaurant with a bar and three letting rooms.we used the restaurant on a saturday night, it was quite busy.there was one vegetarian starter and one main course on the menu, our waitress arrived with news that there was one more of each, so we had a choice, which was good.however the food was yery ordinary.

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53farmers . 2013-11-23

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It was lovely to hear that The Nelson was open again. We had friends up to stay and thought that it would be nice to go out for Sunday lunch. We made a booking and the owner was extremely helpful which gave a favourable impression even before we dined. We decided to go for Roast Beef and a pudding. The beef was cooked just right - a genuine medium rare. The vegetables were nice and firm - a small amount but very nicely cooked and presented. Roast potatoes and Yorkshire puddings cooked to perfection. A very good bottle of red wine. All of us enjoyed our choice of dessert and the coffee was a nice finish to a very good meal. The service was smooth and very attentive and the only thing that we felt would improve the experience would be, as a previous writer has commented, a little softening of the décor. We would definitely go back and would recommend the restaurant to one and all!

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Rod H . 2013-11-21

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Staying at nearby Duke House, Sharon and Ray advised us to try the newly refurbished Lord Nelson in Holton. What a great place - nicely decorated, it is very warm and welcoming. The owner, his wife and son could not do more and the chef even came out to speak to us. We relaxed in front of the log fire, while we chose what to eat and had drinks. When our meal was ready we moved into the main restaurant, which again is very clean and comfortable. The food was well presented and very tasty, couldn't fault it. Overall service was exceptional and both the owner and his wife checked that everything was OK and we were enjoying ourselves. Great service continued to the point that as it was now raining hard and we had walked to the pub, Jay ran us back to where we were staying. If you haven't tried yet or are in the area the Nelson is definitely worth a visit.

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TrevorandAng . 2013-11-11

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The reason I visited this pub was because I won vouchers for a lunch for two which included two courses. It always looked small from the outside but the area in the courtyard is quite big for summer eating. The landlord was lovely even though I had a free food voucher. The food was superb and plentiful. A reasonably priced menu and very very busy. Will defineately go back.

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JulieHall86 . 2013-10-29

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We drove to The Lord Nelson to use it as a base for exploring Suffolk. We were shown to a fabulous room, one of three. It was furnished and decorated to a much higher standard than we would have expected and was certainly amazing value for money.The restaurant is lovely and the menu had an excellent selection of fish, seafood and meat dishes. All were superb. Herring salad for starters followed by huge steak and an even larger cheeseboard. Sandra's monkfish fillets were tasty and generous.Breakfast was again., beautifully presented and again a huge portion.We have found a new venue for future Suffolk trips and I cannot recommend it enough.

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raggyessex . 2013-10-27

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We visited late on a Friday after working in the area. They were still serving and we had great food and great survive from friendly staff and owners. We all ended up having 3 courses as it was great home made food.

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Twickenhamsaint . 2013-10-13

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Newly totally refurbished to a good standard this PH has started on a high note. Lunch was excellent with clearly a chef who understands taste and flavours. Had a two course meal that was very well cooked and seasoned. Service top class and very friendly. They deserve to do well. Still some work to do on the garden area which we understand will be completed for next summer. Decor needs a female touch to soften it but all of a good standard and very clean.Well worthy of 4 stars but not the 5 others have given as it is no way luxurious but fairly plain and honestly presented. We would return.

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Eurotraveller777 . 2013-10-10

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We live in the village and we're so pleased The Nelson has reopened. It's a lovely pub and the renovations have been done really well and to a high standard. We took some American visitors for a meal and everyone really enjoyed the food and the ambience. The service is also excellent. We wish The Nelson all the best and will popping in again soon. Would definitely recommend.P.S. To The Lord Nelson:- Would appreciate one more vegetarian option on the menu. Also the aubergine fritters were excellent but would be even more so if they had a sweet and sour sauce to go with them.

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Becca0089 . 2013-10-08

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Wow!!!! If I could have given more than 5 stars I would have!! I enjoyed and handmade steak burger, cooked to perfection! And for desert some mango sorbet and raspberry and cranberry sorbet in a chocolate lined waffle ice cream cone basket!!! And the prices are AMAZING! Such great food for such a reasonable price! Cannot speak highly enough of this place!!

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Cherokee99 . 2013-09-27

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Was recommended to me, and it was a good recommendation. The room was absolutely gorgeous, will 'William Morris' wall paper and a Superking size bed and lavish ensuite shower. Light and substancial in size, the room was exquisit. A Great choice for breakfast from full English to cereals and fruit juices. Fantastic freshly ground coffee.Had my evening meal in Parkers restaurant in the The lord Nelson, and again well worth it! King Garlic prawns off the specials board were cooked superbly and the prawns were huge meaty and fresh! The pork tenderloins are mouth watering and the Cheese cake nothing short of decadent. This was accompanied by IPA from Greene King, not my favorite but beautifully kept and crips and clear. I would well recommend The Lord Nelson Mill Road Holton, Halesworth for Bed and Breakfast, evening meals and as a local village pub. 10/10. Sam

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Sam A . 2013-09-22

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The pub has not been open long and has had a top to toe makeover. Everything has been very tastefully done. We arrived early for an evening meal after a local recommendation. The fire was lit when we came in and we sat by it drinking some very good local brew. The owner and his team were very chatty and welcoming. The food was extremely good. It is not a wide menu but each dish that we had was of the very best quality. I actually like it when a restaurant is confident enough to focus it's efforts on a group of locally sourced dishes. I would definitely visit again when in the area.

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Kirk R . 2013-09-21

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Just back from the newly reopened Lord Nelson Inn at Holton.We booked in for my wifes' birthday with two other friends, arriving as a surprise. Wow! what a fantastic time we had, an amazing room with superking size bed and walk in shower room ,all finished to 5star standard, and totally unexpected in what appears from the outside to be just the village pub. Our evening meal was superb, as was breakfast all served with great skill by the new owners Roger and Hilary. The Lord Nelson is just a few miles from Southwold and other attractions, so great for visiting the area. Go and stay (and eat) you won't be disappointed!

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GeoffPBenfleet . 2013-09-18

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We were a group of 8 girls lovely service, fab food and drinks! Nice atmosphere at reasonable prices! Will be going back x

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Rebecca R . 2013-09-01

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Made a midweek visit with some friends to this recently reopened pub/restaurant. Food was very nice, steaks perfectly cooked with good chunky chips, and for once very reasonably priced good sized sweets. Woodforde's Wherry beer went down very well. The place has been refurbished very nicely but currently lacks a little ambience probably due to the very recent reopening and the little touches like lamps, paintings still to be completed? Happy to have another good local eating house and looking forward to seeing how it matures as a venue. Will visit again.

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Bob R . 2013-08-18

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The Lord Nelson has recently re-opened after extensive re-furbishment. It was very busy when we visited on Saturday evening. The Nelson is tastefully decorated in pale green and white and light wood giving the small area a light and airy feel. Unfortunately the atmosphere was spoiled by a rather large, loud gentleman holding forth on his experiences of jazz clubs.The noise from the toilet hand dryer is intrusive.I wish the owners well in their new venture.

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MistressWeatherwax . 2013-08-05

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dined here last night and it was a beautiful meal. the ribeye steaks were cooked to perfection. portion sizes were good. it isn't an extensive menu but I guess this means everything is cooked from fresh. couldn't fault the food or service in any way. the place has only been re-opened in the last week or so and it looks like the owners have spent a lot of money on it. its well worth a visit

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489mel1969 . 2013-08-04

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489 Opinions

location-icon1 London Road
British
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Scraps of potatoes for chips & a large red lipstick mark on my coffee cup. In this climate no excuse for dirty cups.