The Ivy Exeter in Exeter

Very pretentious and over priced doesn’t warrant the price tag . Lovely decor but does that warrant the overpricing 🤔 what do you think

El lugar es precioso. La decoración espectacular. La comida está riquísima y el servicio es muy amable. Y la bomba se chocolate es la mejor que he probado .

Enjoyed our first ivy experience which was a wedding gift so we had a voucher after an enjoyable meal with somewhat mixed service didn’t seem to have 1 waiter so lots of repeated can I get you drink when we had just ordered one ? Happened 3 times. Then a mishap with the bill 3 attempts to get it right once over then under then correct I hope you can say it’s training needs? We had a table at 4.30pm which seemed to be after a rush of lunch and changing tables but that time suited us Would we visit again absolutely

Most disappointed. Tables jammed together, no vegetarian option very expensive, living off its reputation. Would not recommend.

Visited today for a birthday tea - have been before and loved it however today I was embarrassed that I had recommended this. 1. No vegetarian options for afternoon tea - never experienced this in London, high end Devon and Cornwall or USA. My poor veggie friend was asked ‘do you just want all cucumber’ other places at least manage a cheese or egg option 2. Tea did not arrive with the food - around 25 mins in fact so whilst eating we were thirsty 3. Cramped tables to the extent that we conversed with both sides of our table 4. Unbalanced - 3 small sandwiches per head with far too much sweet stuff, we just couldn’t face anymore especially with no tea to wash it down 5.Hard to catch the waitress’ eye even to pay the bill then service charge- I’m generally a good cash tipper but £17.50 for 3 afternoon tea stands and slow delivery of 3 pots of tea seemed excessive 6. No enforcement of a dress code, many people clearly dressed to enjoy a high end lunch or tea but people also in hoodies and jeans Other far nicer places in Devon for a special occasion, this has just turned to chain hype. I see most dinner reviews are positive- maybe it’s all a bit much with shoppers and daytime custom.

We picked The Ivy for part of a friends Hen Party, thinking it was somewhere special to celebrate. It was very poor. A large hair was found in the bride to be’s starter, which actually made her physically sick, 3 of us had to wait nearly 10 mins for our vegetables to accompany our main course, which by then had gone cold. We had to wait 45 minutes before our drinks turned up! Finally in the second round of drinks that equally took 45 minutes to prepare, the bride had a dead fly floating in her drink. By now we were so unimpressed we asked for the bill and left, we didn’t bother with deserts!! They didn’t charge for the starter and replaced the fly infested gin and tonic. We expressed our dissatisfaction to the staff and said it simply wasn’t good enough, especially as they knew we were on a hen weekend. There were 6 of us in the party. Just as we were going the Manager asked a member of staff to give us a free glass of champagne, which we didn’t drink and gave to other diners. Too little, too late. There are lots of other lovely restaurants within Exeter, which has far better service and not as highly priced. I shall not come back!!

We were treated beautifully from the very moment we arrived, lovely smiley staff, all dressed very smartly, and very friendly. Decor very over the top but that's part of the experience. Laura(or lauren) was especially good, made us feel very relaxed. I had the eggs benedict with salmon, delicious my husband had shepherd's pie, as it was birthday treat, we went for dessert too, I had chocolate bombe, absolutely delicious and husband have trifle, he said was lovely, it looked beautiful! Yes there's a service charge, but they more than earned it! Will definitely go back xx

I have been reluctant to give this review as it is a while since we ate here but friends we have spoken to about our experience have persuaded me otherwise. During a stopover on the way home from Cornwall, we booked an evening meal at The Ivy Exeter after recommendation from friends for quality and consistency. After ordering a bottle of Veuve Cliquot, we decided to order the double cheese soufflé but without the pine nuts as described on the menu, having been assured they would not be on the plate, my friend having a nut allergy. This to be followed by sea bream for me and shepherd’s pie for Jane. After about a 10 minute wait the champagne arrived and a glass poured for each of us, then the waiter took the bottle away as the table was too small to take it. After a further wait the soufflés arrived and seemed very nice but within 5 minutes Jane started to feel very Ill so went to the bathroom. In the meantime the 2nd course arrived Jane returned to the table, took a sip of champagne but had to leave for the bathroom again not touching her meal. After a further wait of about 10 minutes I asked a passing waiter to top our glasses up ( 2nd glass) and after about 5 minutes he returned with 2 fresh glasses and told me that our bottle had been “thrown away” and would we accept a complementary glass in recompense, as Jane was now feeling desperate to get away I asked for the bill so we could get back to our hotel and get medical care if necessary. On our return, I emailed The Ivy and related our experience and problems and was assured an investigation would take place and I would be informed of the outcome. I am still waiting.

We very rarely get an evening out due to little ones and wanted to go somewhere special. Sadly this wasn't it and we wished we had gone somewhere else. The service was appalling despite there being many members of staff on. The food was very average and very overpriced. I usually love desserts over starters and had been looking forward to trying one but by the time we got to dessert we just wanted to leave and did not want to give the company any more of our hard earned money. We won't be back and we won't be recommending you. Many other wonderful restaurants in Exeter, I have no idea why this place is often fully booked over a week or two in advance.

Post Graduation meal with family ~ we arrived slightly early to have a seat at the bar if possible ~ table was available so we headed in! Lovely waitress called Chloe - very attentive, knowledgeable, friendly. Choices from their Graduation menu or the main menu and we were able to pick from either ( 4 of us) Food was well presented and very tasty- wine glasses were topped up when required- sadly no room for dessert !! Inside decor typical of the Ivy chain - nicely set out tables ( personally I would not choose to sit outside ) and room to move without disturbing other diners. Great experience all round ⭐️

I had such a special evening here for Mother’s Day. I came with my mum, boyfriend and his mum. We were greeted warmly by staff on arrival and made to feel very welcome by all. A gentleman who I think may have been Portuguese? I didn’t catch his name but he was such a delight and made us all laugh. The staff also said I looked like Cameron Diaz which was a very nice compliment (I don’t see it but I’ll definitely take it😍). The food was wonderful, especially the cheese soufflé starter. The cocktails were also of a very high quality. We will definitely be returning soon, thank you The Ivy for giving us a lovely Mother’s Day dinner.

Visited for a friend’s 30th birthday, in great anticipation since we had all wanted to visit the Ivy Exeter since it opened, some time ago now. Two of our party had been to the Ivy Asia, St Paul’s London and expected wonderful things including service, food, drinks and a great setting. We got a wonderful setting, first impressions were just as spectacular as expected. Sadly, our drinks order was slow to take place and then the drinks were slow to arrive. Service was below average with waitresses piling plates on the table in front of us (fine if you’re at your local spoons but not what you expect from the Ivy) as well as then dropping a knife on me! We asked for more tap water at least twice and this was ignored. My friend accidentally ordered the wrong ice tea, we asked if it could be changed and it arrived as the wrong ice tea. We ordered G&Ts, the waitress arrived and asked “who ordered the tonic waters”. The food was good, but not particularly overwhelming as you’d expect from the Ivy. And a final note, why have a dress code but allow people to dine who have blatantly ignored this and worn a hoodie… A service charge added, no, sorry. When asked why we listed the above. Not the expected standard for the Ivy.

Sorry but have to say that despite excellent and friendly service, the food was a massive let down. The food was bland, bland, bland. Did we complain(?) no, what would be the point, another bland repkacement meal would have been served. My only form of complaint is never to go to The Ivy again and stick to my favourite, Cote, where the food has taste.

Thank you Luke for an excellent evening! Your first jazz night at The Ivy Exeter and what a wonderful success thanks to you. It was spontaneous for me especially on a ‘school’ night, I’m so glad I made the effort to join in. Great music, great atmosphere, the food and service are always amazing and it was fabulous to see the management team (Luke, Mihal and Fabio dressed better than 007 and the front of house staff in feathers and beaded dresses looking like modern day flapper girls. Such a delightful evening, thank you all so much

My first visit to The Ivy in Exeter. I did really like the decor and the space, it feels nice. What I found problematic were the following: 1. We were asked if we had any allergies pretty much the minute we were greeted at the door - not a great way to start, and then again 2 minutes later by our table server. I know restaurants have to be super careful in this area, but there are ways of doing it without repetition or causing irritation. 2. The dim but pretty lighting makes it all but impossible to read the menus without the aid of a phone torch. 3. Service was slightly annoying, being asked the same questions by different servers and then at the end, not being able to attract attention to get our bill. 4. My meal was average and overpriced for what it was: Ivy burger and chips. 5. I ordered a bottle of local beer which came with a nicely chilled glass tankard which was too heavy to pick up & hold comfortably so I asked for it to be replaced with a lighter tumbler and it was. 6. The range of desserts on the a la carte menu are all overpriced by £2-£3 so we decided not to order one. 7. A 12.5% service charge is added to the bill. We paid it but reluctantly - I didn't think the service was really good enough to warrant that amount and I really don't like being asked how my meal is about 3 minutes after I've started eating it or at any time during the course of it - an irritating habit adopted by most restaurants these days, as it interrupts conversation. A better time to ask would be when the server comes to take the plates. If you're paying quite a lot for something, it should be excellent in every respect. Sadly The Ivy isn't so I won't be recommending it or returning at any point.

Lovely dessert and drink here with friends. The waiting team are very attentive, the food is delicious and the gorgeous decor really makes coming here so special.

Absolutely exquisite would highly recommend, especially for a birthday!! The food was delicious! The staff where super helpful kind and nice my daughter even recieved a free cake such a lovely touch

Meet up with my best friend, met when we were 19 at St Luke’s in 1973. Celebrating her birthday. Great welcome and good table …menu excellent and we both chose the same! We had Crab Salad with mouli, Shepherds Pie and Crème Brûlée. Sarah also was presented with a Profiterole complete with candle! Will certainly visit again.

A 60th birthday breakfast. Opulent surroundings and excellent service. Food was extremely good but I found it a little rich so could not eat it all. When I think of what was provided (Eggs Royale with salmon, muffins (x 2) and Hollandaise sauce) it was good value.

Wow! What an amazing place, staff were attentive, food was amazing and a lovely atmosphere. Will definitely return, well worth the money. We had the scollop start and the lobster linguini, amazing.

We came to visit for a friend’s birthday. From start to finish service was amazing. Extensive menu for drinks and wine and a variety of dishes to accommodate everyone. Thank you for a brilliant experience !

Step back in time to a very smart, sophisticated restaurant and service. My wife and I were given a gift card for lunch at The Ivy by our son and daughter-in-law. We opted for the Ivy Classics [2 courses for £19.17]. I had mushroom soup and the thinly grilled steak [£4.95 extra] with mushroom sauce and my wife had the duck liver pate and sea bream. All were excellent but the bream was swimming [excuse the pun!] in oil. My wife has an intolerance to too much oil! We did not complain at the time but she wishes she had because her stomach was very unsettled for the rest of the day. The ambiance is calm and collected, the service superb and the food is exquisite.

Amazing food and great drinks. Our waitress Rain’s service was impeccable, great recommendations and just lovely all round.

Absolutely fabulous! Made us feel special from the moment we walked in! Service was incredible, recommended cocktails, sides and desert wines! We cannot wait to visit again. Thank you!

Me and my friend recently came for lunch on friday and it was amazing. We were welcome by 2 receptions - Laura & Tia and they were so friendly. We were served by Abi and she was so lovely and her service was outstanding!! I can highly recommend the fish cake and the cheese soufle - it was incredible. All of the staff that served us were so attentive & friendly. Thank you to Luke, Michał, Jay & Fabio for making our lunch extra enjoyable

Hadn’t booked and were looking for a pre-theatre meal. Place was packed so could only eat sitting at the bar. We were a bit reluctant at first but needn’t have worried as we had a great time. Staff friendly and helpful. Food was lovely, hot,...

Lovely restaurant, great staff but slow service. Waited 20 minutes for drinks, despite asking 3 times! Disappointing

Our neices gave us a voucher for the Ivy, so we went for breakfast, gotta say it was very good. The ingredients were all top quality, I had the full English my wife had Eggs Royale both were very good, quicky decor and great servers...

Through January The Ivy have had a £19.17 for 2 courses deal, commemorating the year they first opened, I have eaten there quite a few times since they first opened in Exeter about 2 years ago so was very keen to take advantage of this...

There was great ambience, very friendly staff. Food was lovely and had no problems. Overall very good! Will come again soon

great food, Head chef was great and recommended us great dishes. High-level service and knowledge of wines. I will definitely come back to this place.

Came for breakfast with my partner and 3 year old. Had a lovely breakfast my son loved his pancakes, the Benidict was good and full English I’m told was excellent.

Me and my mum had come for her birthday it was lovely staff were really nice and the steaks were cooked perfectly we then had dessert wich was a chocolate bomb and a celebration plate for my mums birthday we had an amazing time would...

Booked the Ivy for a surprise engagement and it didn’t disappoint. Leah the maitre de, was lovely as were the rest of the staff. I think our waitress was Martha, all great. The steak was fabtastic and the drinks. Thank you to The Ivy Exeter...

Our third visit to The Ivy and as ever great food and brilliant service - if you're looking for a quiet romantic place, don't come here! If you're looking for somewhere serving delicious food with first class service in a wonderful setting with a real...

Perfect location at Exeter Cathedral Green with the usual welcoming staff and prompt recognition and seating. An informal dinner with friends/colleagues and we opted for the 1917 menu with accompanying glasses of wine. The service was excellent, as was the food, so, our evening met...

Very disappointing. I have been to the Ivy in Exeter on two occasions. For lunch, and for breakfast on both occasions, the food has been tepid. The surroundings of the restaurant are beautiful. Unfortunately, the service isn’t. Some of the waiting staff look scruffy and...

Visited here for a friends birthday. We booked in for an afternoon tea at 12.00 Got to the day and when we turned up we were informed that they don’t do afternoon teas before 3pm and we will have to order off the normal menu....

This was festive Afternoon Tea booked some way ahead. Expectations were high and we were not disappointed. The attentive efficient staff provided an excellent service. The environment was stylish, attractive and well arranged. We will go again!

We get together once a year between Christmas and the new year for dinner and this year chose the Ivy. My duck pate was absolutely delicious but unfortunately came with the most boring piece of white toast cut from corner to corner. The rest of...

I dined here with friends recently and I cannot recommend The Ivy Exeter enough. We came for dinner and cocktails on a Friday night and there was a great atmosphere throughout the restaurant. We were greeted at the door by two lovely ladies who were...

We were greeted by a very lovely receptionist and she seated us at a very comfy booth, she told us who our waiter would be and once we made ourselves comfortable the waiter appeared with our menus and I have to say from the moment...

Arrived at our time but the table wasn't ready, offered to either to wait outside or stand in reception which made you feel that you were in the way, nobody took our coats. Taken to the bar where we ordered a bottle of wine and...

It was my wife’s birthday and we enjoyed the 1917 menu. The food and wines were excellent, however the evening was really made by our superb waitress Evie who was not only attentive, but also gave great advice on the menu. She is a star...

Disappointing. We have been here many times but todays experience was disappointing. New Years Day and it was not the normal buzzing Ivy. Starters took ages to appear - you normally feel rushed at The Ivy. And then the mains, again we had waited ages...

Poppy at the bar was excellent. I would highly recommend, ask for her! Food was also delicious, such a lovely evening. Xx

Had the best of time with Poppy serving us drinks throughout the afternoon/evening. She really made us feel welcome and at home within the Ivy.My meal was completely spoiled with the overuse of coriander and would not been redeemed without poppy’s fantastic service and hospitality....

As a regular diner of the ivy in London I was so excited to be in Exeter. Wonderful ambience fabulous young servers including the great and lovely Rain. Unfortunately our evening and experience was overshadowed by the Manager Fabio who hadn’t realised we had ordered...

The restaurant is in an old bank and has been beautifully decorated - in the same manner as other Ivy branches. Our waitress - Anastasja- was lovely. So helpful and really welcoming. Our food was good. The scallops with orzo, cauliflower sauce and truffle were...

Visited for my daughters 40th birthday , 8 of us in total for after noon tea the food was great but in the end was not made aware that a 34 pound service charge had been added and then they accepted the £20 tip with...

I had a friend visiting from London. I haven't been her in a year, so I wanted this to be special. We were greeted fairly well & the service was fine at the bar while we were waiting for our table. My friend ordered the...

A lovely building with typical striking decoration, the restaurant was spotlessly clean too. The table was too small, and as no one offered to take our coats the overall space was a little too cramped. The service was polite and functional, the beer expensive, ridiculously...

We had such a fantastic experience , fabolous food and more importantly the service was impeccable thanks to our lovely waiter Woody!

Terrible service, food was wrong, food was cold. Told waitress she didn’t care. Had desserts at another venue, sent in feedback asking for response , didn’t get any. Will not return and telling lots of people of our dissatisfaction

Over priced chain is all the Ivy is, I went thinking it would be special, it wasn’t! The food was nice but didn’t warrant the prices charged and they had the cheek to add a steep service charge to the bill. We sat on corner...

Our expensive meal was ruined with the lady in the corner vaping and blowing smoke out her mouth who thought she could hide it under the table and secretly do it whilst we had a baby shower with my 34 week pregnant sister and our...

My friend and I had been so excited to come to the ivy, and on arrival it seem lovely, good location and great decor, But food was disappointing, wasn’t worth the price they charged, service was ok untill I found bugs in the vinegar.. AFTER...

Unfortunately my review echos other recent reviews. I rarely have the need or desire to write negative feedback , however on this occasion I felt it necessary to do so. We met with old friends for a special Christmas get together, we’d all travelled some...

I had my work Christmas lunch here and it was absolutely delicious. We all had the 3 course set festive menu and we were all very impressed. The food was beautiful and very tasty, the staff were very professional and the decor was gorgeous.

This was to be a very special Christmas treat for five friends and unfortunately it was a complete let down. Our booking was 1230pm. We were shown to a small round table only big enough to house three guests comfortably or four at a push....

Great location and nice building and decoration. The food was excellent. Unfortunately the let down was poor service. We were waiting for everything and had to constantly flag the attention of staff to get what we needed. On arrival our table was not ready at...

We came here for lunch at 12 noon. We were aware of the hour and a half table time slot. This was our 3rd visit. It was very busy when we arrived at 11.50 but got taken to our table quickly. We got drinks very...

Celebrating a pre-Xmas afternoon tea. Within 10 minutes of eating one of the sandwiches felt extremely nauseous and luckily managed to get to safety ! Still felt extremely ill, so we decided to leave and I suffered severe sickness until the following morning. Felt exhausted...

My aunt was so impressed with her birthday treat that we came back for our pre- xmas get together. The staff were so patient with my uncle and mum, who have mobility and hearing issues and ere happy to accommodate their needs. The food was...

From the moment we arrived we were greeted with smiles from the reception team . We were showing to our table and the ambiance was wonderful. Rebecca & Olivia were are very attentive waitresses & they were superb! Well informed, polite, friendly & well trained....

Had a lovely celebratory evening, Luke the General Manager was very welcoming and the service was great, Jemima and Laura were amazing hosts and it was overall a very nice night!

Myself and 2 of my friends booked for the Christmas set meal, for Saturday evening. On arrival we were welcomed by a lovely lady who explained that our table wasn't ready and could we wait, which wasn't a problem. When our table was ready we...

Second time I’ve had breakfast here - both times were amazing. Really tasty food, lovely atmosphere and wonderful staff.

We always love the decor in here so was an obvious choice for a birthday meal. Rain served us and was friendly and attentive to us all night. Thanks for giving us a great joint birthday!

Overpriced and over rated. Service very average. Waitress uniform grubby and food came in dribs and drabs

Brilliant, helpful, courteous staff, fabulous food, gorgeous venue, what's not to love about this place. Will be back there again and would recommend going there.

A short excursion from the hospital to celebrate our being able to dine in our favourite restaurant and meet again with some favourite people! Service from Caitlin and the team was top notch; the food was fresh and tasty and the ambience is a perfect...

Lovely service but they forgot to mention if you have water it's a charge of £4.99 a bottle and another charge I not use to eas over £7 for table service how else are we meant to get are order food was 7 out of...

I went to The Ivy for brunch on Saturday with some of my family to celebrate my nan’s birthday! The service was excellent throughout right from the moment you walk in the door with the ladies at the reception area being so genuinely friendly and...

I had the chicken skewers for starter and they were tasty. For my main I had the sirloin steak and chunky chips. The steak was very fatty and the chips were bland. Given the prices charged I'd I say McCains oven chips would have rated...

Very disappointed. Took mum for her 77th birthday. Lovely welcome for lunch, lovely meal, ordered deserts and coffee. Coffee hadn’t even arrived and we were told we had 10 minutes left before our table had to be vacated. We still had drinks, deserts in front...

I have been working in Exeter since September and I have really find my place to dine. I love the decor , the atmosphere and floor team, they all looks smart. But the food is superb, I have tried many dishes and believe me the...

A beautiful venue and interior - definitely special for celebrating an occasion. We celebrated my sons 21st . After the meal he received a celebratory, delicious, decadent chocolate desert with a gold candle and an Ivy decor piece. Sadly we could not keep the candle...

Everything was spot on. The food, the service and the atmosphere. Our waitress Aga was very attentive and made our experience amazing. We look forward to dining again soon.

Great service and variety of options on the menu. The atmosphere was amazing. Thank you for an amazing experience. We will return soon !

Met a girlfriend for an early pre show supper. I’ve eaten at The Ivy several times and I appreciate it’s a very busy restaurant. However the service was extremely slow and we had to repeat requests for things several times. Some extra Parmesan cheese finally...

Good friendly service throughout. Very busy restaurant which maintains a high standard of food . Been twice , between us only had Asian main and they are very good . Well deserved be ivy exeter

What an absolutely amazing birthday lunch ! Myself & my 2 cousins had a perfect lunch 😊. Fabulous food, great service and wowzer cocktails.

I’ve always enjoyed eating in The Ivy, eaten in plenty of their restaurants and always found the standard pretty consistent. Exeter is the exception though. Unusually for me I ordered fish and chips. The batter was the worst I have ever eaten, sloppy and undercooked....

We have ate at Ivy restaurants many times all over the country. Unfortunately Exeter seems to be at the bottom of the pile. Food very average, Squid not at all crispy and very chewy, waitress did not seem too bothered when i pointed this out....

Lovely atmosphere, the food was incredible and the service was nothing short of amazing, very attentive and friendly definitely going back. I've got an allergy and all the staff were spot on, nothing was a hassle.

After a really poor meal at the Ivy Covent Garden we came to the Ivy in Exeter and what a difference everything was spot on food, decor, staff friendliness, Exeter and Cardiff could teach Covent Garden a thing or two, I highly recommend eating here.

DISAPPOINTING would not visit again has 12.5% service charge added which quite frankly was not worth it - wish I had taken it off the bill but they are relying on the fact it’s too embarrassing for you to ask - we had to wait...

An excellent evening at The Ivy in Exeter. Service was very friendly and efficient. Cocktails expertly prepared, especially my personal favorite - a vodka martini. Since the restaurant opened the menu has been slimmed down, which is disappointing. On the night we attended the menu...

1 week ago today a Royal Marines veteran friend and myself popped in here to avail of its well stocked alcohol filled shelves. A delightful young lady called Poppy served us whilst seated at the bar and recommended a few unusual libations. Twas Braw Aye

Wow , there was 13 of us, we went the night before to book a table, they couldn’t do one long table but did a table of 6 and a table of 7 - they put the tables next to each other so we had...

Wanted to arrange a family celebration meal and look at options to book a table with notice due to numbers , emailed through their website , one week on still waiting for a reply , if this is the standard of service with emails I...

Great service and ok ambience. Really disappointed with the food-fish and chips for two of us were ok but three of us had burgers that were disappointing…v disappointed as this was supposed to be the highlight of our weekend away. Won’t make that mistake again.

First time visiting The Ivy, interior was stunning. Atmosphere was very pleasant and service was great. We booked the afternoon tea Alice theme, it arrived and looked amazing. However there was far too much cake and very little sandwiches and for someone like myself who...

Overpriced & below average food! The cost of the drinks and food here are ridiculous. £7 for a small bottle of beer, and £18 for a gin and tonic - crazy. The food was also insanely priced and when it arrived was below average. The...

Friendly and welcoming staff, great service and tasty food, we thoroughly enjoyed our visit to The Ivy, Exeter. It’s a lovely building and atmosphere too.

Service was amazing, very efficient and polite, with excellent food surrounded with a lovely ambiance and atmosphere. Really recommend a visit to the ivy Exeter and will definitely be returning!!

Family meal for an 18th Birthday celebration! Amazing meal, great service in a very lovely setting!

My sister and I came for afternoon tea on Sunday. Everything was fantastic, the food was perfect and all the staff were so lovely and accommodating. I 100% recommend😊

Excellent food , service , nice ambience all round I enjoyed the experience , my personal view is I feel the starter menu didn’t have enough choices that suited me , I had the calamari which was very nice , only fault is I booked...