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3.8

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Nº 249 in 338 in St Edmundsbury

Nº 55 of 69 British in St Edmundsbury

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The usual "spoons" standard Food and drinks were all good value Service was great the bar are serving staff were happy to help Sadly there was some form of issue that there was an excessive amount of little black fly's. We relocated to another part of the bar, the following evening the fly infested area was closed off.

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Q Q . 2024-12-01

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Really nice place to eat and food values as we all know

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Jonathan Scott . 2024-11-26

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Food always good and great value for money.

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Stuart Read . 2024-11-15

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Lovely breakfast, nice atmosphere, beautiful open fire. I've been quite a few times and mostly lovely staff. Lovely tasty deserts, too. Bit of a faff using the app as can't take children up to pay for meal, as at the bar.

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Trinity Ellis . 2024-11-11

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Like all wetherspoons a delight to be in them

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lynn exley . 2024-11-09

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A bit of a scarey place. But cheap food. Servers were polite and helpful.

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Heather Wax . 2024-10-24

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Stopped off today(22 Oct 24) Just after 5pm so the pub was pretty busy. I expected to have a bit of a wait to get served but the lad at the bar was on excellent and although busy he had served me with drinks and food ordered within minutes. Whenever I am in Haverhill I take the chance to grab a meal here and to date I have never been disappointed with the food which has always been hot ,tasty and served quickly. The staff have always been super efficient and have a great friendly attitude with customers they make it a very pleasant experience. Tables are cleared and cleaned as soon as people leave and it is obvious that there is a good team spirit in this pub. That is why in my opinion this is one of the best Wetherspoons in the country. I don't often write reviews but when staff are as good as they are here I feel they deserve to get recognised for their excellent customer service .

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Craigallion . 2024-10-22

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Not so many prams and trolleys to climb over this time.

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Raymond Jones . 2024-10-21

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Ordered a brunch and hot drink, nearly half an wait an no cup. Food came, asked for cup, had to wait another ten mins. No sausage with my brunch. Mentioned to the waiter and he said oh, oh dear.

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tina webster . 2024-10-19

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I like most Weatherspoons, but the Drabbet Smock is always my favourite place to come for any occasion. The food is always good, better than most other places and the people are friendly.

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Kerry Laurie . 2024-10-19

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Great food, very reasonably priced and good atmosphere

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Jenny Overson . 2024-10-19

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Nice Wetherspoons in Haverhill. Atmosphere pleasant & food good with very fast service at our time of visit recently. By

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CHRIS BRACE . 2024-10-18

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The special Korean chicken was off. No Korean sauce, no chillies. Drab bowl of cut up chicken tenders arrived. The server apologised. We chose another sauce. Don't know if it would have been cheaper to order that but there was no refund suggested. Of several people behind the bar, one was serving and the rest were chatting.

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Ann Sullivan . 2024-10-15

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Hi Pls can you not sell the out of date products please??

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ibrahim ipek . 2024-10-07

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Whatever you order they will come and tell you they are out of something and they need to change your order slightly, apparently they can manage scrambled egg on your Egg Benedict but not poached! How! A rather suspicious Wetherspoons in my opinion with bad seating and no plug sockets to charge your phone anywhere!

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mark Vincent . 2024-10-06

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Unfortunately there was no bread or tomatoes. The food was cold and late. Waiter did his very best...bought us more beans as there were few on the plate and even they were cold.

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Lucille Shepherd . 2024-10-06

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It's OK for a super market. I shop twice a month and it's generally the same items but I've notice that the prices for the items i purchase are up 5-10% every time. The Meats items increases are very noticable your paying more for smaller portion . It's just just here but at all supermarkets. These sneaky increases hits consumer ver hard in these difficult time

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Robert Hughes . 2024-10-03

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A nicer than average Wetherspoons, nicely laid out and in a quaint location. During a visit to the wonderful Knife Amnesty Angel, which is in Haverhill for a short time, hunger bit and so not even 30 feet away from the angel was the Drabbit Smock public house. Set in the lovely market square of Haverhill, the front face of the Drabbit Smock is tidy and inviting, I can imagine this would be very busy, but I went on a rainy Sunday, so not very many people about. I had a wheelchair bound person in tow and access was reasonably good, as are the inside row of window seats to accommodate a wheelchair. Must admit I cheated as I used the Wetherspoon app to order food and drink, but drinks and food were brought to the table promptly, as was table clearance after. Overall, nice pub and would go back if the opportunity arose.

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Damian Davidson . 2024-09-22

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Nice meal overlooking the Market Place and the Knife Angel Statue

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Pat W (Riverboats) . 2024-09-09

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Some staff are extremely rude on this day went in to have food! Especially managers or claiming to be managers. They don’t listen to the customer and they back each up even though they are wrong. staff have a terrible attitude. Feels like kindergarten very disappointed and not a great experience this day. Food was terrible, and cold! Dirty cutlery and table. staff training regarding hospitality needs an update.

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ER . 2024-09-07

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Had my quarter zip nicked by staff... I went out for the first time in Haverhill, back in July and left my quarter zip there. I called in the next day and they said they had it. So I drove back to ask for it and they then told me they did not have it... I'm very very disappointed as was a birthday gift only recently.

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Sean King . 2024-09-03

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Just in for breakfast/ Large very happy,

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Frank Love . 2024-08-19

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Gone down hill fast...date ...25/7/2025.. Absolutely disgusting, never again...

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David Tobindavidtobin . 2024-07-25

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Lovely meal with lovely company

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Jacky K . 2024-07-25

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The mains arrived, and there was more bean juice than beans... very disappointing. We ordered dessert, and it took 45 minutes to arrive and weren't even warm, very disappointing.

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Alison Elliott . 2024-07-24

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Some days its better than other's And some days you think ah should have gone to the exchange

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nicholas dower . 2024-07-10

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Saturday lunchtime drink and eats with my son. Nice pub with good atmosphere. Food and service is excellent.

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Anthony Phillips . 2024-07-06

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Was having a lovely meal with family then I realised I had a hair/fibers on my panini as iv already eaten half of it already!! Felt sick instantly!!! Looking closer at it, it was covered! The chap who was manager said it’s not a hair, I said I don’t care it’s all over it and iv eaten it. They refunded me for that meal. Don’t feel as if that’s enough tbh last time I eat from there!! I didn’t get a photo as I was fuming and wanted answer immediately! They couldn’t tell me what it was!

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Kathryn K . 2024-06-23

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Nice coffee, Good pint of Guinness!

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Richard Rickards . 2024-06-22

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Usual wetherspoons food and drinks,nice atmosphere

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Edward Brazier . 2024-06-05

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A friend & I ,visiting Haverhill,found ourselves starving @ 9.30pm..so we popped into Drabbet & Smock. Wow! So impressive..it was bustling. Super friendly ,fast service , tasty & amazing value. My friend had never been to a 'Spoons before was totally happy with her herb chicken. My Halloumi fries & salad were delicious.Added to the experience,neither of us had our reading glasses so asked for help from a group of local guys nearby.They were terrific sports. Going thru'the menu & finally loaning us a pair of glasses!!!Every visit to Haverhill now, we dine & D&B,& bring others with us. 🥰

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jean berrigan . 2024-06-02

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I recently dined at drabbit and unfortunately, my experience was disappointing. The chips, burger, and onion rings were all served cold. This was a 30 minutes wait This significantly impacted the quality and enjoyment of the meal.I hope the restaurant can improve its food handling to ensure meals are served hot and fresh. Despite this, the staff were friendly, and the atmosphere was pleasant,

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Manda Telford . 2024-05-30

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Not a bad pub, but the food always turns up warm rather than hot. Still, they are consistently warm.

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Ernie Goody . 2024-05-29

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Decent enough food, very quick service. Great if you *really* don't want to cook and are pressed for time.

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Scott Tancock . 2024-05-26

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Cask beer “old leg over” was in top condition, as was the Adam’s..good to see some different beers apart from the bland green king beers and of course equally bland doom bar …

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Peter Evans . 2024-05-12

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Just bad. Cold chips cold chicken burgers. If I wanted cold food I would go to Iceland. This is the last time I ever came to wetherspoon haverhill. We have been here twice now and the food was bad both times. What "restaurant" can't even serve hot chips. Just bad you can get away with serving rubbish. It's a goodbye from me 😔

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chris moss . 2024-05-10

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Seriously, I would rather get a KFC or McDonald's than eat here. The first time I ate here the cooked breakfast was almost cold. I thought I'd give it a second chance but the chicken burger meal was cold too. Would not recommend for food.

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Amanda Rolls . 2024-05-10

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Gosh this was a dire wetherspoons. Everything everywhere was sticky and dirty! From door handle, menu, table even after I had asked anyone to clean it. The toilets were unpleasant and smelt!

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Hilary Lawrence . 2024-05-02

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Tasty sausages! Unfortunately I had to cancel the dessert because it hadn't arrived by the time we had to leave.

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Holly Percy . 2024-04-29

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It was an amazing place with smiling faces all around. Epic drinks 🍻 which was love honestly. Spend 4-5 hours in and had the best time ever with friends

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Jokers Waste Of Life Productions . 2024-04-28

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Had a birthday meal here last night and the fish was either off or not cooked myself and my 1 yr old baby now been throwing up for 14 hours straight they were to busy they failed to cook the food to a safe standard not good at all will not recommend or be coming back . £80 just to be sick with a sick baby as well . Cuttlery was dirty we had to use baby wipes to clean them ourselves and the staff were not very polite at all and the high chair was a state we also had ro clean god knows what off off that .... not a good standard for a weatherspoons chain not at all .... do not eat here if you do expect food poisoning like my son and i clearly not checking foods are cooked fully . Just another chaim oug to put the ring of money before service

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jo romero . 2024-04-24

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Great atmosphere cos I was with friends. Went for Sunday breakfast, the food is ok, I had the American pancakes with a side-pot of Maple syrup. No option for mixed berries or any fruit which was a shame.

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Elaine Woodley . 2024-04-21

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Cheap and food always good. Great for families and get togethers

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Rhea Daw . 2024-04-09

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I love coming here for lunch. The people are friendly and the food is great.

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Kerry Laurie . 2024-02-04

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We visited after landing in Stansted and staying nearby. On arrival the venue was quite. After ordering via the app the drinks took some time to arrive and when we asked a member of staff a simple question it was like pulling teeth. The food was cold and the toilets were a disgrace. Either the management need to get a grip and make some improvements or hopefully it will be ear marked for closure as part of the restructure.

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Shane O'Neill . 2024-01-24

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Food was lovely, hot, tasty and served in a timely manner. Can recommend the fish and chips. Staff were polite and competent. We came on a Sunday early evening, not too busy but a nice buzz about the place. Will definitely visit gain if in the area. No parking on site but after 6pm there are spots in the surrounding streets for free

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Tee D (Mizteeque) . 2024-01-21

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Last few months service and food quality and speed has gone very downhill

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Alice Jaynee . 2024-01-19

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Another Spoons ticked off the list. Food was good, but sadly the eating area was tired, tatty and a bit grubby, sadly it's a reflection of Haverhill itself

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colin spash . 2024-01-15

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Food came out cold. Especially when I'd only just paid for it and it arrives.. chips cold and raw crunch, bbq chicken melt the chicken still cold in the middle, and pathetic bacon and half melted cheese on top. Fish burnt on outside still cold in the middle and had that awful raw fish taste. Ordered daughters main but never arrived.. and still expected me to pay for their error when mentioned... and told them food cold... I did get a refund for half of what I paid for... and only got sent 2 bowls of still half warm stale type chips even though apparently they came straight out the fryer. This is the worst whetherspoons establishment I have ever walked in. When we walked in the tables at the door entrance hadn't been cleared away so wasn't even a table set to sit at. As a spoons you don't expect high company brand standards but this one was pure awful and really doesn't deserve the 1 star it was given and isn't 1 that I would recommend and never walk through the door again. Usually a weatherspoons we always satisfied... but everything in this one was just not an experience to suffer again. I don't recommend this place at all and extremely disappointed in my whole dining experience with this place.

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Jennie V . 2024-01-14

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Was Cold food. Rude staff. Worst wetherspoons we ever stepped into.. refunded half. Think people who go to bars... need to be reminded that there's kids around during a time scale and to curv thier language... using the f word after every normal word.

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Jennie Varga . 2024-01-14

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Busy pub food was fine wine was better lol

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Linda Sully . 2024-01-05

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Went with the family & had a great time no hassel ordering from the table & food lovely & hot

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Julie Harris Green . 2024-01-04

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Cheap cheerful and I managed to put on a stone 😎 yes!

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Alexander ColemanTzivelekas . 2023-12-31

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For it's size Haverhill has quite a few pubs and some of them pretty good. Wetherspoons can be hit or miss but the Drabbit is definitely a hit. The usual good value grub and beer but it's also a very well run pub, with hard working staff and a lovely buzz of locals enjoying themselves.

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John Reilly . 2023-12-29

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Dirty table. We requested 3 different dishes and they had none of the ingredients for any of them. We walked out and went to a local cafe.

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Michael Jones . 2023-12-07

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Good service at the bar..staff always friendly..

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Debbie Alcorn . 2023-12-03

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We went to this Wetherspoons for breakfast. My husband ordered a vegetarian breakfast and firstly the order came out wrong and then when it arrived it was cold. The coffee machine was not working properly either and only tea was available. We wouldn't visit again.

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Jenette B . 2023-11-27

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Dirty cutlery asked for clean , still came back with stained cutlery.

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Sean Griffin . 2023-11-26

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Seemed well used. Alot of people after a cheap meal and drink

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Jojo . 2023-11-17

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Lovely place. Good food at a good price.

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Paul Haylock . 2023-11-15

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The staff are very friendly and and always helpful 😊

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Gary Hogger . 2023-10-25

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Ignorant staff items missing from menu food left on tables and floor more like a doss house gone down the pan won't be back

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colin Fitten . 2023-10-22

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Very poor in all aspects, food was over cooked mash potato was congealed and grey in colour looked like it was microwaved many times, the mushy peas the same, gravy was just lumps. Plates and food was cold, when served plates just put down on table with no comments asking whose was what. Drinks the same dumped down and spilt. Had to ask for table to be wiped as it was dirty! But was given wet cloth and told I could do it. If you going to offer food like this I would give up and wait till your staff are capable, trained and happy to be in the hospitality trade. I have been in the trade on and off for many years but would be ashamed to have an establishment as this.

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GSG5357 . 2023-10-22

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Just popped in for a quick drink and a catch up with an old friend. Service was quick and friendly.

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Phil Weaver . 2023-10-15

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Standard spoons with better than normal staff. Nice people.

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Mark Brand . 2023-10-12

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Good inexpensive food and drink. Thus busy with those seeking such

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Mark Williams . 2023-10-09

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Lovely place wonderful food and very good service

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Robert Chilcott . 2023-10-03

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Great pub Great selection of beers and excellent value for money food.

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Robert Archibald . 2023-09-28

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Wow what attitude the staff have rude and dismissive and now we come to the terrible food my wife asked for medium rare steak and got medium well and our friend asked for medium and got rare his plate consisted of steak and a dollop of mash nothing else the staff just don't care won't be in again.

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GEOFF L . 2023-09-20

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The staff seem to have an rude attitude. Wouldn't not recommend it return here, 1 hour we waited for food, chased it up at the bar told 5-10 minutes still no food asked waitress eventually food come out. But no apologies and seem to have a ride attitude. First time visiting wouldn't definitely no return. It's definitely not a happy, relaxing atmosphere very loud and rude staff.

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Michelle E . 2023-09-17

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Typical weatherspoons , beers good staff are friendly. Nice and cheap 👌

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Alex Wightman . 2023-09-13

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Nice lively pub, and nice staff.

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Amanda Brown . 2023-09-12

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All good here, friendly staff good atmosphere

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Paul Wright . 2023-09-03

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Breakfast was good value for money and bottomless coffee is worth the purchase

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BassMonkey . 2023-08-31

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Love this place, good plain food (all-day breakfast) and the beer always seems fresh (Lager), probably due to the high turnover! Very popular!

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Ray Miles . 2023-08-23

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Great food as always. Cheers all.

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Scott Piercy . 2023-08-16

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Terrible place to eat now days. Requested a hot plate and runny eggs. Neither came to the table, eggs were hard, plate freezing cold, making food Luke warm, requested a new egg giving them a chance to put things right. Egg came slapped on the table with no care and server walked off. Also new egg came back running all over the plate like someone deliberately broke the yoke.

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Whitemad1 . 2023-08-13

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Very small overcrowded seating area, if you like noisey chatter then this is the place for you.

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Andy McIntyre . 2023-08-12

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I live in Scotland but I grew up in Haverhill, I come back down every so often to see friends and family and since I work for Wetherspoon I often go into a Wetherspoons wherever I am (discount lol). I come in here a few times for every time I’m down and every time I have been in the pub has been so dirty. There’s always dirty glasses on every table, the floor is a mess, tables dirty etc. Service is mediocre, most of the staff do not look happy/approachable (I understand it can be a very draining job, I am a manager so 100% understand but customer service is key to this job) The wait on food and drinks (iorder) can be long sometimes, always seem to have only 1 or 2 people on the floor. Every-time I’ve had food it’s been good, have definitely had worse! Overall it’s an okay pub, it’s nowhere near as good as other ones I’ve been to.

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Molly Start . 2023-08-01

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Food and drinks met expectations. The biggest problem was how dirty the pub, tables, cutlery and service areas are.

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David Sait . 2023-07-27

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Utter disgrace I went in to clarify that my assistance dog would be allowed in was told they don't allow dogs but assistantance dogs are legally required to be allowed. The bar tender told me if we sat outside and had the dog outside the designated seating area we would be fine. Not 2 minutes later who seemed to be the manager with a real attitude came and told us to get out. Told him he was being an idiot and walked off as there is no sense in arguing with stupid. No signage indicating no dogs allowed refused entry to an assistance dog against the law. Horrid staff. Avoid like the plague

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Ed M . 2023-07-26

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Always a pleasure popping to the drabbit. Friendly staff, fast service and nice surroundings

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Mark Smith . 2023-07-09

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Nice pub but was served wrong food. Was sorted but annoyed they didn't have what I originally ordered.

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michele thompson . 2023-07-09

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Decent prices, atmosphere, and great staff.

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Jamie Carter . 2023-06-29

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Food is variable if they get order right tables are sticky and coffee machines often do not work fully some drinks not available or shut downa

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Alisonrichard . 2023-06-28

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Usual Wetherspoons competitive prices. Nice atmosphere.

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Bob West . 2023-06-26

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Really popular for breakfast, nice treat

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Bev Walker . 2023-06-25

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Scruffier than usual Spoons with the floor staff working really hard to keep up with serving and clearing. The stock curry was fine and as expected. Real Ale was cloudy but that’s not unusual. The lady customer who decided it was fine to park her van outside the window for over an hour whilst meeting friends spoilt the view unless the pub had issues with their drains!!

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SisterBluebird . 2023-04-16

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We pop in to the pub every Friday with my father and daughter. The staff are super friendly and welcoming. Nothing is a problem for them and they always go above and beyond for us. Thank you for making our Friday family breakfast time special. Shout out to Karen manager, Jack, Luke, Tracey, and Toni

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mm2803 . 2023-01-14

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Visited loads of Wetherspoon establishments. By far the worst. 25 minutes waiting for drinks and about 45 minutes for food staff were unhelpful and actually rude. Curry Night, which again worst ever experienced at a Witherspoon. Food either cold or burnt.

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280craige . 2022-08-25

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Not as big as some Spoons but quality is better than quantity. I liked the way the front opened up onto the street so that we could enjoy the lovely summer weather.

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Poger R . 2022-08-02

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Just returned from having a coffee at Drabbet. Come here quite often but this was the worst experience we have had. First we sat at a high table 2 of the chairs are completely worn out with foam hanging out and filthy so need to swap chairs around then there is food over one of them and the floor underneath was filthy!! Asked if it could be cleaned which was done very begrudgingly by one of the young staff with lots of muck still left behind. Before we left went to the toilets and while there a knock on the ladies and a lad just leaned round and signed the toilet check list, I asked shouldn't it be checked and I was ignored and he left!! Lots of the chairs are falling apart and the cleanliness leaves a lot to be desired. The regular staff are great and work really hard but some of the new ones do not.

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Pat R . 2022-04-08

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Tammie is the best manager so attentive and welcoming will definitely return. Lovely atmosphere and reasonably priced.

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Elliemillerxx . 2021-10-22

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What a difference decent staff make, called in for breakfast that was presented hot and tasted fine,staff very efficient and dressed smartly, perhaps wetherspoons in sudbury should send there staff here for a few lessons in customer care and food preparation and learn that cooked food should be served hot!, I say this as our breakfasts there a week ago were returned for a refund, very disappointing!

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Boomer277 . 2021-07-11

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Well came here for breakfast as they have started breakfast muffins. Advertising them as new to menu. However non available, so why put on menu !! 😡

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jackiehY3540MI . 2021-07-06

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Called in on off chance made welcome and got table straight away. Staff polite and breakfast menu was OK. Would call again when next in haverhill.

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60murrayh . 2021-06-08

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We have been comming here for absolutely ages! Whether its birthdays, celebrations, partys, anything we absolutely love to come here for food after a nice celebration. The food here is amazing and tasty. Sometimes they might get your order wrong a bit but all restaurants sometimes do it. There are all different types of foods here. Brunches for breakfast, sandwiches if you wanted for lunch, and some burgers or tasty stuff for dinner too.Food is amazing and will definitely keep comming back once the lockdown is over. Stay safe. X

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Caseyloui_ . 2020-09-13

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LOVE THIS PLACE. Foods always on point. Always a cheeky deal. Portions are huge, prices are cheap, waitresses are so nice, GREAT value for money, Only downside is BBQ sauce is 50p, and if you need a wee you have to hike a mile but heyho. Come here with friends, family, for pre drinks on a night out. Love it.

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deer770 . 2020-09-10

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We pre empted a visit on a Saturday night, we did not have to queue and was directed by doorman to complete the track and trace. We were greeted by a staff member who sat us down at a table, it all felt very personal for a Whetherspoons and it was a welcome change. We ordered via the app as we always do and food and drinks came out quickly, the food was hot and tasty but as you know whetherspoons is not posh, it’s pub grub and it was fine for us. There is no parking here but there is free parking at nearby car parks after 6pm. Staff were keeping an eye on diners who were not sticking to there seated area and instructing them to return if people were congregating, well done! We had a good experience and would return

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402emmaa . 2020-08-25

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Went for curry lads night out with my father in law ! Have to say brilliant value we both had chicken tikka masala came with rice naan and poppadom with 2 pints included £16 all in .. curry experts will maybe tell to go to Indian restaurant... but really tasty ... try it !

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823nicholasr . 2020-03-07

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Noticed the one of my old teenage haunts was open again, and what a lovely surprise. A very friendly and informative owner/brewer made us feel very at home and three pints of the wonderfully tasty Xocolatl Ale was just what the doctor ordered. I was sorely tempted to make my way through his wide array of beers, but could not resist this pale ale combined with cocoa nibs…can’t wait to be back in Suffolk again!