Based on 4.569 opinions finded in 2 websites
Based on 4.569 opinions finded in 2 websites
Nº 2376 in 4016 in Birmingham
Nº 176 of 282 British in Birmingham
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Absolutely awful. The food had been there for ages and some of it was hard and unable to chew properly. The service was poor. Will not be going there again
Jacky Obrien . 2024-11-14
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Went into this Toby carvery just for a sandwich but was then intrigued but the starters they had to offer. I ended up getting cheesy garlic bread and pigs in blankets along side my beef sandwich. The garlic bread was so nice i orders two more portions. Would 100000% recommend. Was told the chefs name was gaz. So thank you gaz for the top quality.
Nat George . 2024-11-13
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Sandra was very good - very friendly and helpful :)
Oliver Lewis . 2024-11-09
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Had a great breakfast and service was excellent, lovely atmosphere, very friendly staff, will definitely be back.
Ade Cranmer . 2024-11-09
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Beth and Jordan were brilliant, definitely be back next week!! Wow!
Bethany Mcdaid . 2024-11-08
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Jordan, Claire, Gaz and Ryan - Service was brilliant and the food even better, definitely be back soon!!
Kate Cox . 2024-11-08
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Great breakfast polite and helpful staff attentive waitress Debs friendly and chatty and welcoming
Akuas Whelan (Quash) . 2024-11-07
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Best experience ever. Plenty of seating and excellent hot food
Chris Judge . 2024-11-06
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Busy night as there was a special offer on . Food was hot and looked freshly cooked. We did have to wait around 20 minutes for our drinks from the bar. I understand they had shortage of staff. Enjoyed the evening.
Jackie Wagstaff . 2024-11-05
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Good value for money. Busy on Sunday lunch, so book.
Richard Baines . 2024-11-05
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Service was really good, got seated and fed quickly, the food was nice as well
Joseph Allen . 2024-11-04
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We came for an early Sunday Lunch, food was fresh, staff were attentive and friendly.
Ian Hornby . 2024-11-04
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It was very good we all enjoyed our meals.
MICHAEL OCONNOR . 2024-11-04
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Went in for a drink tonight served by Kerry, she was so lovely and a nice atmosphere in there
foh kitchengardencafe . 2024-11-03
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We visited on a Sunday evening. All staff were super friendly and helpful with our 2 young children. Especially Kerry and Sandra. Food was great
Georgia Smith . 2024-11-03
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Great food as always lamb and beef amazing, very professional and friendly staff great place see you soon kerry and sandra gave great service thanks.
Dek . 2024-11-03
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Nice friendly place to eat out. Food is nice and homely
natalie c . 2024-11-01
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Always a lovely atmosphere, staff are always really friendly and the food is always great. Can’t fault it
Elizabeth Smith . 2024-10-30
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Visited here for the first time in years, the meat was cooked perfectly and the veggies and potatoes were seasoned well and tasted delicious. The staff were super friendly and atmosphere was great 10/10
Jessica Evans . 2024-10-30
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Had a great meal with really friendly service, especially from Claire!
Lily Soaper . 2024-10-30
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We received a wonderful welcome from Gina at the door. Food and service were excellent. Josh served our delicious lunch. Would highly recommend 👍🏼
Jo Massey . 2024-10-30
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Absolutely brilliant Debs are waitress was absolutely amazing took her time to really help us and cater for all our needs friendly bubbly and nothing was too much made the whole experience great along with some lovely food thanks debs for making it a great experience 😀😀 definitely be back if back in the area
Nick Amena . 2024-10-29
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We went out for Sunday dinner today, and although it was extremely busy, we understand that's to be expected. Overall, the food was quite good—though some dishes were a bit bland, the Yorkshire puddings and gravy were excellent! The highlight of our visit, however, was our wonderful server, Sandra. She was absolutely lovely and went above and beyond to make our experience special. I was feeling a bit anxious about my cat at home, and she kindly reassured me that everything would be fine. She even suggested getting a camera to keep an eye on my cat, which was such a thoughtful recommendation. Please do pass along our thanks to Sandra—she's fantastic!
Hayley . 2024-10-27
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The food was beautiful and the service was even better thank you Charlotte!
Charlotte Lardner . 2024-10-26
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Food tasty ,freshly cooked, staff friendly & welcoming
Joan Spencer . 2024-10-26
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My uncle had a medical emergency and all of the staff was amazing especially Jordan
Declan Hunt . 2024-10-23
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Food was great, hot, fresh and our server was lovely.
KerryAnn Danneker . 2024-10-22
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Excellent. Nice clean place friendly staff.
Claire Buller . 2024-10-21
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Really bad food. Was so looking forward to this carvery on a Sunday when prices are raised significantly. Haven't been out for some time due to families illness which is terminal... so went here fir a treat. Service was good. Nice girl. Very friendly. Food however needs to be sorted as firstly I got a serviette to hold my hot plate... no was a cold plate. Then the Yorkshire pud was flat and rubbery ( been left sitting), the roast potatoes were like bullets, sprouts hadn't been trimmed and the mint sauce had run out. Surely for the price of £14.49 these should all have been done properly. One thing the meat was nice so was taken home.. thoroughly disappointed and disgusted. I always cook and needed a break. Never again.
patricia white . 2024-10-21
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Very nice experience and would definitely recommend.
Paul McGovern . 2024-10-21
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Stood waiting for the carver to turn up. Starter of pigs in blankets turned up after we'd collected our carvery. Beef ran out, Gammon ran out. Carver told previous customer that there was no more beef but then he went and fetched one for another customer. Dirty plates piled up high in random places around the establishment. Visited on a Monday evening, for the first time, not rushing back.
Kim Hollick . 2024-10-20
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Just want to say a special thanks to Debs for being so lovely, always so helpful and makes us want to return. Food was banging too!
Gabby Petitto . 2024-10-19
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Absolute joke I have 5 kids from 4 -12 they went up individually enjoying the carvery experience but because they became flustered by the servers question they where incorrectly given adult plates and I was forced to pay for them complete and utter disgrace and we will never return absolute joke.
Rob Fern . 2024-10-15
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One of the better carvery offerings that we've experienced. Price was a little higher than expected, but a very nice meal
Robert Myles . 2024-10-14
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Meat portions very small. Not great quality. Good selection of veg tho
Chris James . 2024-10-14
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First time at this carvery . The plates were dirty and all scratched! Very offputting , plates need replacing urgently! Also why are the plates stone cold ? Next to a hot servery I expected them to be a least warm. By the time you’ve queued up to do your own toast on a very slow toaster and get back to the table , the rest of the food is cold. I feel another toaster within the restaurant is definitely needed! Nice coffee . Didn’t see many staff around but the food I had was tasty and looked nice . The ladies toilets were clean and smelt nice. If I hadn’t been so hungry I’d have left purely because the plate were not up to standard. I wouldn’t go again because the first 3 plates I picked up had food underneath them and this grossed me out.
Lynny Moon . 2024-10-13
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One positive. I had the opposite experience you would expect. The beef was actually tender and had flavour. Now for the many negatives. - Took nearly 50 minutes until we finally had food on the table. - Service was slow to the table. Ended up spending just over two hours there. Last ones in the entire establishment because they forgot about us. - The chef was getting annoyed and shouting at everyone with an attitude because he couldn't fathom that not a single customer didn't want to be served until the Yorkshire puddings were brought out. I know right. Who would have imagined people attending a carvery want a Yorkshire pudding. What is this madness? - The plates are extremely hot to handle. You burn your hands touching them. So you have to make your own oven gloves with napkins stolen from the bar area. - Another chef brought out brand new sprouts from the kitchen. And then threw the old sprouts on top of the new ones. So instead of the last customers getting the finest freshest produce. Basically no one is allowed anything nice. Everyone suffers and gets the old dregs. - Some of the foods were contaminated with other foods. For example there was tonnes of sweetcorn in the carrots or something. The chef saw this. And to make it look better. He just mixed the food from the bottom and brought it to the top. To cover up and hide the mess. So people spooning one type of food, will unexpectedly get food they absolutely hate on the plate. He couldn't be arsed to fix the problem. So he just covered the problem up. - Chefs had horrible attitudes. Just moaning about work and how difficult it was. They couldn't care about the quality of the product, or customer service at all. And if shows. They don't give a toss about anything. - The Yorkshire puddings had a weird taste. Usually these are meant to be amazing and have that eggy dessert like flavour. But these were bland, cardboard. - Coffee. Tasted burnt and awful. But was also not even hot. Actually a challenge to drink. - The worst part is the cleanliness. None of the staff members care about keeping the food serving area clean and tidy. With such volume of traffic they need to be extra on top of things. But it's worse than a run down McDonald's. - The sauce area had no sauces. I asked a chef loudly and he ignored me. So I had to ask a cleaner waitress lady who went into the kitchen. During this time your food is going cold. The sauce area was absolutely disgusting. Just sauce all over the counter top. You have to reach over and hope you don't get covered and stained by the sauces. The apple sauce tasted artificial. Way too sweet. Just cheap rubbish. Cranberry sauce was also out of a tin too. Didn't try anything else because they were all contaminated with random sauces. None of them were labelled correctly. - Gravy area was also very dark and they weren't labelled correctly. Gravy was lumpy and looked horrendous. No onion gravy or anything different. One gravy was steaming hot. The other was mildly warm at best. Again the area was really dirty. Doesn't take much for someone to get a cloth and spend 1 minute wiping surfaces down. £15 an hour / 60. 25p to transform the place from being horrible to reasonable. - The table was also sticky. They didn't bother to clean it properly with actual cleaning products. - Drinks machine was running out of syrups. So the tango was basically water. Drinks machine was also really dirty. So when you put your drink back on the table. Your table gets soaked with water since their are no drinks mats. And the drinks machine is extremely wet since the liquid has nowhere to drain into. £34 for 2 meals and fizzy drinks is far too much. Especially for the quality you aren't getting. - Apple crumble. Had no apple in it really. Crumble soggy. Was probably microwaved. Custard was cold. Lots of skin from apple getting stuck in my mouth I had to put on the plate too. I would seriously avoid going to this place. Absolutely pointless trip out.
Glyn Taylor-Williams . 2024-10-12
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Class ! Gentleman as welcome host is brillant organiser , extremely busy night yet he managed people and restaurant superbly. Great food , super staff , lovely atmosphere, quality cost. Definitely worth a visit.
liz hall . 2024-10-12
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I pre booked a booth table due to a lady attending with us that is disabled and unable to walk without aid and crutches. Due to a debilitating illness. When we arrived the manager booked us in but didn't look at notes for the booth area and put us right at the back the furthest away than where I asked. So I spoke to a server named Tia. She totally understood our perdicament and went to sort this issue for us. We totally were aware how busy they were and we were willing to wait. Within a few minutes she dealt with it and escorted us to our booth table . Tia was amazing and I'm fully appreciative for her understanding and support she went the extra mile and I would like her to be recognised for her help. Our server Charlotte was amazing also. She checked we were happy throughout our time there. She helped me set up the birthday cake and brought it over to us she was truly wonderful and we would like for her to be recognised also for her help which was also appreciated. Thank you ladies for making our evening celebrations.
Leah Kelly . 2024-10-11
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We treat ourselves to a visit every month, with friendly staff and a great atmosphere. A choice of all the meats and as much veg as you can eat. I've never tasted meat so soft and juicy at a pub meal. I don't know how you can do these prices and still serve quality food, like you do. Thanks.
Neil B . 2024-10-10
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Excellent service and quality of food
David Taylor . 2024-10-09
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Had a really nice visit , came for a lunch time carvery to celebrate my birthday
Judith Harvey . 2024-10-08
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Was bit nice but they kept running out of eggs on the breakfast. Plates on the toast section were all a bit greasy and wet.
Jordan C . 2024-10-06
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Absolutely love the food here, can’t go wrong with a Toby! However, last time we visited, the spoons for the carvery were absolutely boiling, to the point you couldn’t even pick them up to put the food on your plate. Completely get that it’s a serve yourself kinda thing, and that the food needs to be kept warm, but this was something else! No napkins to wrap around the spoons or anything. Would be helpful if this could be monitored as there were children trying to serve themselves too.
Sophie Toolan . 2024-10-01
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Once again - no real ale . If they can’t be bothered ,why should I bother going to eat/drink there. Avoid!!!
cmeasey . 2024-09-30
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Ish they kept up with the demand of food as the lines got long because food kept running out
jay reece . 2024-09-29
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Overall friendly service, food was of a good standard although there was no ice cream and I’m sure the meat portions are getting smaller. Having paid for 2 courses for my daughter, I should have been informed that ice cream was not on the menu and the choice was fruit or an ice lolly.
Alex McCrea . 2024-09-29
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Really lovely welcoming stop off for something to eat. We didn't have a booking but it wasn't peak dining time so we were seated quickly. Our server was so efficient and we were seated and eating within 5 minutes of arriving. The food was absolutely delicious. Everything was fresh and hot and there was plenty on offer.
Donsie Liscious . 2024-09-28
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Went for my mom's 50th very good place nice food friendly service
GWWY . 2024-09-28
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The server Sarah was professional and courteous. The food was really good. Especially the roast beef. Good selection of veg, and all hot which was just what you need when the weather is atrocious
Kerrie . 2024-09-23
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Good price ate at 10.30 food good toaster needs adjusting.staff very helpful though
Neil Jenkins . 2024-09-23
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The food was great! Service was quick and efficient
ellie bullas . 2024-09-22
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This place used to be really nice. Sadly this visit was very poor,
jane owens . 2024-09-22
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Had beef all very fatty said lamb was coming out waited 30 minutes then told was no more lamb. Was booked for 6.10 was shown to table at 6.50 will not be going again.
Annie Fishet . 2024-09-22
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It’s amazing loved it was packed of people which is always good sight means foods good which it was I normally like going to really quiet places as I have anxiety and I don’t normally like crowded places but The atmosphere here was really good which really did help lot Definitely recommend this place and we definitely will be returning thank you ☺️
Tanya Newman . 2024-09-21
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Melissa made the meal amazing =) thank you xxx
Lilith “Tigz” Bill . 2024-09-19
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Melissa has been amazing. Even when the refill drinks machine stopped working, she never lost her smile and gave amazing customer service. A shining star.
Rebecca Billington . 2024-09-19
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Very good service, Debs is perfect barmaid, very polite and very helpful, food was lovely as usual, best service ever x
June Bird . 2024-09-16
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Generic Toby Inn. The Stella I had wasn't great but the pub was pleasant enough and clearly does what it is meant to.
David Fairey . 2024-09-14
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Great service from Adele, chilled atmosphere. Gravy a little runny but great other than that, can’t be perfect for all! Thank you :)
Jack . 2024-09-13
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Great food and good place to eat. Food is quality, as usual, and atmosphere is instantly relaxing. Would highly recommend 👌🏼
Blü Medici . 2024-09-12
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Everything was really good. Food fresh. Really enjoyed my meal. All the staff are friendly and helpful.
Hazy Bay . 2024-09-11
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Food was not as nice as it normally is roast potatoes was so hard could not eat them staff was polite .
Gaynor Chambers . 2024-09-10
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I appreciate Sundays at a carvery is a busy time, but we waited over half an hour at the table where no one came over to take drinks order, or to clear us to go up for food. Counted 2 members of staff walking by ignoring us and the dirty fly-ridden plates around us. A big let down after a pleasing first experience. We ended up walking out before placing an order. We shall not be returning.
Charlotte . 2024-09-09
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It was a great experience people were so helpful and polite
graham george . 2024-09-09
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Melissa was great & food was good as always
Grace McKellar . 2024-09-08
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Brilliant meal and Melissa gave faultless service, she’s a credit to Toby Carvery Kings Norton. Thanks for a lovely lunch :))
Poppy Close . 2024-09-08
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Adel our server was very informative and friendly .. a n asset to the company very professional and knowledgeable. I was a bit worried about the meat choice initially as it looked dry but luckily a fresh turkey came out and it was truly suculant! The vegetable bake was also the best I've had here so compliments to the chefs too! A very comfy and indulgent experience will be back soon!
go with the flo . 2024-09-07
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It was such a good night food was lovely and Charlotte the waitress was so nice and welcoming.
Megan George . 2024-09-07
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Me and my friend went for breakfast and we had never been before. Immediately entering, we were welcomed so lovely by Debs, served very quickly and made to feel very welcome. Food was very good especially for the price. Will definitely be back, thank you Debs!!!
Leanne Harris . 2024-09-06
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Been here a few times in the past 4 months and unfortunately it’s been the same problems. Food was really dry and had been left out for ages it seemed. Veg wasn’t kept topped up. Waiting ages for meats to come out then when the chef finally came out he came across quite rude. Felt so sorry for the waitress as it seems they’re always rushed off their feet. They pack all the customers in one section so you can’t really manoeuvre around the tables and leave it to 1 person to serve everyone so it’s not really fair. Despite this, our waitress Claire was lovely and did a great job.
Elizabeth T . 2024-09-04
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Acceptable Food for the price charged at Breakfast. Welcoming and Departing very poor, no Greetings or farewell, not friendly staff, no smile ! That aspect was very disappointing and would take this issue into consideration before retuning again.
Alan Davies . 2024-09-04
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Food was good Put us in a noisy group. Probably should of asked to change seats Also starter came after the main. But it didnt bother my son to much
Kerry Osborne . 2024-09-03
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The food was great. The staff was really helpful. Adel was particularly helpful in helping our family.
Thomas Clapper . 2024-09-02
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Bartender Charlotte was very friendly when we went to get a drink whilst wait for our table to be ready. As soon as the table was available Kerry was very welcoming and showed us to the table and checked in to see if we needed anything else. When we went to get the food Nat who was carving was so warming and had a conversation whilst he served us, he was amazing and the food was delicious. Overall very impressed especially on a very busy Sunday
Mark Mason . 2024-09-01
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Best carvery in town.lovely staff.lovely food.not one complaint.
tracie Ford . 2024-09-01
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The food was amazing. We were served by nat who was so welcoming and made our day. The bartender charlotte really took the time to speak to us always with a smile. Kerry was our waitress and helped us with anything we needed as fast as she could on a busy Sunday. The best experience we could ask for!!!!
Susan Fenton . 2024-09-01
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Usually good rubbish today but us of coming back x ok but not as good as usual
Margaret Corbett . 2024-08-30
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I just wanted to say what a lovely experience to done at this restaurant for the first time this evening (29th August) The food was great but what really made it was the young lady who served us; it was so busy and she was absolutely rushed off her feet but she did an amazing job, so friendly and efficient, took a real pride in what she was doing and ensuring that her customers were taken care of, finding time to speak to us and make sure we had everything we needed, especially as there were so many people she was looking after. I wish I had caught her name - she was young, brown hair in a ponytail, freckles, and she really was lovely. I hope you know who I mean from this description, we were thrr between 6 and 7. Just wanted to make sure we thanked her and we are grateful for the attention she gave us despite being so incredibly busy. Thank you!
Cindy Neale . 2024-08-29
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Meals are good the staff are very friendly and helpful
allan teece . 2024-08-27
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Great value. Great service...Great taste and range of veg is fabulous! Lovely staff too.
Nita Newman . 2024-08-27
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Always enjoy a breakfast here. Great service from Debs who is the heart and soul of the place.
Paul Oakes . 2024-08-26
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We came on the promise that Sunday they offer roasted lamb and they charge about 150% of normal days because of that. There was no lamb and no changes in pricing!!!
Mohamed Moshrif . 2024-08-25
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Excellent breakfast. Will be going again.
david rogers . 2024-08-24
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We was quickly seated and served all staff were friendly and polite despite being run off their feet.
Claire Silver . 2024-08-23
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Wow didn't no this place was so local the carvery is top will be back
Tony . 2024-08-23
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Food was excellent. Claire was our server very helpful and nice. Brought the bill over promptly when asked for.
Hayley Thirlwell . 2024-08-23
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Toby Carvery King's Norton Review Overall Impression: A satisfying carvery experience with friendly service, although the food could have been a bit juicier. Food: The carvery itself was enjoyable, with a good variety of meats and vegetables. While the flavors were decent, some of the meats, particularly the beef, were a bit dry. The Yorkshire pudding was fluffy and the gravy was flavorful. Service: Our waitress, Sarah, was excellent. She was attentive, helpful, and made us feel welcome. The overall service was efficient and friendly. Atmosphere: The restaurant had a casual and family-friendly atmosphere. The decor was clean and well-maintained. Recommendation: If you're looking for a satisfying carvery meal with good service, Toby Carvery King's Norton is a solid choice. Just be prepared for the meat to be a bit dry, especially if you opt for beef.
Lee Day . 2024-08-22
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Its the toby usual nice food good service
Tim Phillips . 2024-08-20
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This is our little hide away, (date night) and we love it. The carver Lee is always a good laugh and always serves with a smile 😃.
Louise Edkins . 2024-08-20
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Food wasn’t great. I’ve been here a few times and it’s usually quite good, but today it was an overall poor experience for numerous reasons. Chef was quite stingy with the meat, and the beef was very poor. Extremely chewy, had to spit it out. The veg/potato’s were also quite empty. Chefs were very slow to top up/replace what was missing. The service was poor, but this was through no fault of the waitresses. They were very clearly understaffed and were trying their best. I fault sorry for them - definitely rushed off their feet.
Beth Thompson . 2024-08-19
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Very busy, with a queue for the buffet. Shows it's popular with the locals.
Diane Harris . 2024-08-18
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I have attended three times this week two times arrive on spec today I booked Very pleasant friendly staff
Carole Costello . 2024-08-18
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Food hot veg fresh one of the best carverys Ihave had.
valerie soames . 2024-08-10
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Decided to give Too good to go app a try for the first time, I ordered a carvery surprise dinner for £3.49, it was a surprise indeed:)) Collection went fine and the staff was helpful, lots of food to be thrown away at 9 pm, however, the meat in my surprise bag was 2 thin slices of salted pork and lots of veggies, disappointed. At least I tried:)
Miss CG . 2024-08-09
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Welsh geeza we spoke to was sound, likes Victoria sponges if anyone wondered. Sarah was lovely and Beth pours a great gin. Will be back at 7:59 on the dot for our breakfast 😋
Sophie McGrath . 2024-08-06
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Quality was very poor, Roast potatoes were like concrete blocks, Cauliflower were just the stalks, meat was very dry, chefs were away from the front at regular times, que was ridicules, I would recommend if you wish to have deliveries, that you employ enough staff to cover the extra load, our 2 oldest, could not eat their meal due to the quality. not impressed at all, this is the 2nd visit in a row, the food has been of poor quality.
Ken “Grumpy Jock” Reynolds . 2024-08-05
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We visited on Sunday 4th Aug at 5pm. It was a spur of the moment visit, so didn’t book a table. Though when I did look to book (about 20mins before we arrived) there were plenty of slots available, so we didn’t as we thought there would be plenty of space. When we arrived, we were advised there would be a 15ish minute wait for a table. Not a problem at all, we were happy to wait. Whilst waiting we noticed the absolutely massive queue for the carvery that didn’t appear to be moving, but hey ho, once we got our table (30 mins, not 15ish as initially advised) we joined it. There started our 35 minute wait to get some food from the deck. Staff on the deck didn’t seem to be monitoring to ensure as food was running low that they replaced it ready for everyone else, thus there were lots of delays waiting for mash, or whatever else had run out. Totally disorganised. We thought about leaving the queue, but thought ok well maybe it won’t take much longer. I wish we had. We both had king size carveries, the yorkshires were old (had been sitting in the pan a while ) and the beef I had, well it was both fatty and chewy and tough. I could have used it to sole my shoe. The roast potatoes were also quite hard . To top it off, we had ordered extra pigs in blankets, and they had been sat on our table ages going cold whilst we were in that ridiculous queue. We weren’t the only ones bamboozled, there was another couple complaining and leaving as we left . Myself and my partner have been to this Toby carvery many times on various days of the week, Christmas etc, and it’s never ever been this bad. We won’t be returning .
Stacey Downton . 2024-08-04
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The carvery is always delicious here with the roast potatoes always coming out on top. For three carvery meals with drinks the bill was less than £60
anthony harris . 2024-08-02
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Unhealthy fat people eating too many carbs. I had a niceish plateful of meat and veg. Service was moody and worse than mediocre.
Steve Hoey . 2024-08-02
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