Rose & Crown in Purbeck - Phone Number, Reservations, Reviews

Just spent 3 nights here and we cannot fault it . Lovely clean room with all the facilities you could ask for even down to free bottles of water .Breakfast was lovely with all local ingredients and plenty of it along with unlimited coffee and orange juice . The staff were all very welcoming and up for a chat . Would not hesitate to return , thanks for a really enjoyable stay 😊

We had a great few days there. All the staff and owners brilliant

Great find. Beautiful Sunday Roast. Good range of beers. Definitely worth a vist

Good place to meet friends for a good laugh 🤭. Recommend to everyone

Excellent hotel/ public house. In the week of travelling around seeing family and friends, we stayed in several hotels, but this was the best by far. Breakfast was lovely and the room was outstanding.

Great little place for an overnight stay. The rooms are very neat and tidy and breakfast was excellent.

I stayed at the Rose and Crown for a wedding. Can’t recommend it highly enough. They were flexible on check in times to allow for me to get changed and room was perfect for what I needed.

Visited the Rose and Crown for the first time today. Food was exceptional, full of flavour, hot and excellent value. The staff were happy and attentive.... A credit to the pub and adds so much to the enjoyment. A five star experience and I can throughly recommend.

What a gem! Lovely pub with bed and breakfast . Room spotlessly clean,comfortable bed. Staff so friendly and welcoming. Superb breakfast. Only 15mns from Poole ferry port .

What a fantastic B&B. We stayed in room 4 which was lovely. The king-size bed was comfortable, the room lovely and clean with a large en suite. Free tea, coffee and bottled water with extras and fresh milk in a fridge in the small reception area. A smart TV with access to Netflix etc with your own sign in details. The friendly owners have thought of everything you could need and more. The breakfast choice was good, with everything from fruit, yoghurt, cereals, toast and plenty of cooked options. We also ate there in the evening, the portions were very generous and everything was cooked to perfection. It was so nice it was shame to have only being staying 1 night. We will definitely stay here again if/when in the Poole area.

Not sure of the pub as we stayed in the b&b bit but that was great.

Very welcoming, food was great and reasonable priced. Indoor and outdoor seating.

We wanted somewhere halfway between Poole and Wareham for a family lunch after a walk in Upton Country park. Excellent Sunday roasts with a good selection of freshly cooked veg. Plus a varied menu and tasty homemade desserts which suited our grandchildren. Staff were very helpful and friendly.

Enjoyed an outstanding Mother's Day lunch with family from Bridgend, South Wales!! Very welcoming hosts, superb roast dinner & service with a smile!! Highly recommend!!

Just had a mother's Day lunch for 8 of us while on holiday. The food was absolutely delicious and service was excellent warm and friendly. Would highly recommend

Stayed here for 1 night room 4 got there after 7pm. I was shown up to my room by a very polite and helpful lady. (Forgot her name oops) water and usual tea and coffee available also fresh milk and more water supplies in a fridge outside the rooms also nice biscuits by Booths . ( All butter ones was my fav ) The bedroom was warm and cosy and the bathroom smelt really nice but i couldnt find the smelly (ha ha) the bed and pilows was the best ive slept on in ages (even better than my own) Quilt was also warm. Breakfast was also good .The lady at breakfast was also polite and friendly and asked if i wanted more tea and i got well done bacon which i asked for down side was 2 hard poached eggs and the toast could do with being a bit more brown (sorry) but i would def recommend this place to anybody and would stay again . Thanks to all at the Rose and Crown for a welcome stay.

Stayed overnight, the bedrooms are spacious and really comfortable with everything you need. Lovely power shower in the clean modern bathroom. Free bottles of water with your tea and coffee with biscuits in your room. Breakfast was downstairs in the pub with plenty of choice. Cereals, toast, eggs or full English for starters...plenty of tea, coffee or orange juice. Lovely local produce used where possible and you don't go hungry! The staff are warm and welcoming and happy to help you. If staying you have your own parking space as well. If im down Poole way again I'll definitely go back and stay.

Great place to stay, friendly staff, delicious food, especially breakfast, stay here if you can.

Amazing night Friday. Took my work lot there to end the night. Both the lads and girls with me had a brilliant time and Cat and her team where ever so helpful 😀 🥳

Well we're do I start. I work away from home at least 3 weeks out of 4 and I'm in a different accommodation every night. So I can tell you I ain't come across a place to stay that as meet all my needs. But I after admit the rose and crown meet them all Room very modern very clean a large smart TV Fresh milk and water in a fridge out side the rooms Lovely and I mean lovely bathroom . All the accommodation I stay in you can guarantee a electric shower which I personally ate . Not at the rose and crown proper POWER shower. Great parking Great friendly staff. Any way enough of me credit a place that needs credit were its due All I can say is 5 x For everything get your self on four in a Bed u will win it with flying colours. I will be staying here the next time I'm in the area And I will book in advance to make sure I get a room Thank u rose and crown And well done xxxxx

Great pub good food and drink will soon be back for party with the family

Delicious lunches, and friendly service. Very clean, lovely atmosphere - will definitely be back.

Friendly staff, great beer and food plus lovely b&b rooms .. an excellent place.

Was very nice meals curry/ faggots/pie/goujons

First time I have been here ,and the food was lovely as were the service, will go again

I've used this pub during my stay in the village. 10 months . Very welcoming , lovely people , lovely food , lovely drinks , lovely accommodation, lovely pub . highly recommended 👌.

Homely pub, that serves some quality food. Guest ales and live entertainment, a proper community pub!

Close to where we were staying we tried the Rose & Crown for a birthday meal for 8. Barman was super friendly, food was excellent and price was good value. Pint of Haka was spot on. Food wise we ordered chilli, gammon, braised lamb, lasagne, beef roasts and cheesy chips. All tasted fab and no complaints. Well worth trying out if you are local or just in the area.

8 of us waltzed in here last night for a birthday meal. Never been before, just saw it was at the end of the road so gave it a go. Top move. Staff were Uber friendly and accommodating. And the food? Well, it’s been 14 hours since I ate and I can just about move now. It was quality. Tasty, filling and not shy on portions. One of those meals that you know after the second mouthful you’re going to struggle to finish it but you’ll graft through as it tastes so good. Not one criticism from any of us. We were all stuffed. Still had room for duff though and predictably that was awesome too. Top banana!!!

A warm welcome, delicious food and very good service. Extensive menu including vegetarian and vegan dishes. Really enjoy eating here.

You must visit. A warm and welcoming atmosphere. Bar staff super efficient, excellent beer and wine choice. Dinner menu was spot on and cooked as requested. Room was comfortable and modern. Bramble and Ruby, saloon customer's dogs 🐕 were entertaining and well behaved. Excellent and enjoyable stay.

Great food and friendly service.

We stayed locally for a few days, on two evenings running we had our evening meal at the pub. The service was fast, polite and even though one evening we were close to closing time the staff patiently waited until we had made our choice and finished our meals. The food was good quality, good portion size and good value for money. Would highly recommend.

Stayed here for 1 night for family event. Rooms excellent every little item thought of and decorated beautifully. Excellent breakfast

The photos don't do this place justice - it's a lot nicer than it looks in the website photos. We booked for a family party of 10 on a Saturday evening. We were pleasantly surprised by the relaxing comfortable ambience, the quality of the food and the service. Recommended dish is the steak (on Steak Night).

Lovely place, staff are very nice, chicken curry outstanding!

Booked for six humans and one dog. The food was superb and all six cleared their plates. Would I book again? Yes as we are booked in for later in the week 😁

Great place , fantastic accommodation with superb beds and great shower. Food was first class . Staff very friendly and the room came with a full breakfast . We will be back .

We got caught short and needed food one evening. Popped in. The landlord could not have been more friendly and sorted is out with a meal despite the kitchen closing early. Great stop off for a pint. Looked like some good veggie options during normal hours as well.

If I ever get invited onto Desert Island Discs the Rose and Crown at Lytchett Matravers will be my luxury item.

Nice and clean rooms, comfy beds. Nice pub downstairs... It was quiz night when we stopped over so we went to Poole for dinner... Breakfast was simple, but nice.

Lovely b&b room, easy parking, good facilities.

It was a lovely experience here. The room was very modern and clean while the pub below offered great food, drink and service. There's also on-site parking.

Just had a super meal here, whitebait and prawn cocktail were delicious, we also had fantastic main course of braised lamb with mash (I had roasties), great veg, unfortunately we were unable to have dessert as we were stuffed. Lovely attentive staff and light and airy interior, plenty of parking with an outdoor seating area if wanted.

Breakfast here was awesome! Coffee especially was the best I've ever had!

What a wonderful find! Spotless and amazingly quiet room, friendly hosts and excellent food ( including the best coffee!) The communal fridge on the landing with fresh milk, extra bottles of water etc is a thoughtful touch. A delightful stay which we hope to repeat.

Just had a very nice roast great food good price friendly staff nothing more I can say just perfect

Great place to stay. Lovely modern room, great breakfast and evening meal. Decided to get out of the hustle of Poole and stay a few miles outside, and happy I made that choice! Whether business or leisure, I recommend you look here. Would definitely stay here again.

Thus place is amazing, staff pleasant friendly, room amazing facilities fantastic. Food really nice especially breakfast. Love the fridge with water and milk on the landing. This place really exceeded our expectations, arrived on the Friday night which was a quizz night and they were fully booked but they squeezed us in and even moved a table from another room to get us joined in the quiz. From the minute we arrived we were greeted with friendly pleasant staff who couldn’t do enough for us. Definetley be returning Thankyou for an amazing stay

What can I say about this place, I’ll start with the negatives. 1. Don’t listen to the bad reviews on here, mistakes happen. 2. More sausages on the breakfast because I liked them. 3. It’s too far away to make it my local as it’s a friendly pub. 4. There’s only 4 rooms so you have to be quick to book them. Positives 1. Rooms are great, nice comfy bed, nice bathroom. 2. Friendly welcoming staff that made the stay even better. 3. Lovely evening meal with a great selection for all tastes. 4. Good location outside the hustle and bustle of a city. Seriously, this has been an absolute find and I’ve only stayed for one night on a business trip but it’s going to be one of my stop overs if I can get in every time I’m down this way. Thank you to all the staff for a pleasant stay.

Stayed here for two nights, staff were very friendly, helpful and accommodating. Room( No1 twin room) comfortable and lovely modern finish. Breakfast and evening meals great standard. Would definitely stay here again if in the area.

Really nice place to eat and drink. Highly recommended to anybody

Great find in a remote location. Warm welcome contemporary rooms, good food, and a great breakfast to set you up for the day.

Food, drink & staff are all fine - food is v good. Sometimes has really good (5%) beer but always has some draught beer.

I booked here on the strength of the reviews and I wasn't disappointed. The rooms are fresh, clean and comfortable. The staff are friendly and helpful and the food is top notch (beat breakfast I've had in a long while) would highly recommend and definitely stay here again.

Good quality food and excellent service.

Great choice of drinks, including ciders!

We visited the area for a 4 night break to celebrate our wedding anniversary and so glad that we decided to stay at The Rose and Crown at Lytchett Matravers, the room that we stayed in (number 3) was lovely with everything that you might need and the food in the pub below was gorgeous, we chose to eat here 3 nights out of the 4 and the lasagne was so good I had it twice. Heather and her staff were all very nice, polite and often asked if everything was ok. I only had one very minor gripe and that was the noise from the road in the morning when people would have been using it for their morning commute and although the balcony doors were double glazed they didn't seem to restrict as much noise as I would have expected. Having said that, I'm sure that we will be paying another visit in the future.

Everything about this place was excellent. The room was modern with good quality fittings and great a bathroom. Nice touches in the room with ample tea and coffee and water. Spotlessly clean too. Breakfast was great too, good choice of cooked and lighter choices. Unfortunately we didn’t eat here, but the menu looked good. Highly recommended

Don't often stay in b&b or pubs so wasn't expecting the 4 star hotel grade room that we had. Sadly some of the staff had covid so no breakfast available but they made sure to let us know in advance and refund the cost. They still made the effort to get in some fresh lactose free milk for me which is better service than the 5star hotel in London that we recently stayed at. Ate in the pub on first night. Food and service was good.

Just spent 3 nights in a twin room at this pub/hotel. The rooms are up 2 flights of metal stairs. Our room was stunning, plenty of hangers and space to put stuff, great refreshment bits, nice mugs, cafeteria, t-pot, kettle, 2 bottles of water, on the landing is extra provisions including a mini fridge with real milk and extra water etc. Beds very comfy, there is a hairdryer, washing lotion in bathroom. Had breakfast each morning cooked breakfast, mine was vegetarian the vegetarian sausages were the best I have ever tasted. My son was this way for work so stays in hotels weekly he was also very impressed, he said WiFi was very good. All staff very helpful and happy. If we are passing again I / he would definitely stay again ..

Very nice pub. Great food and lovely Doombar beer 🍻👍 Was great to go in after an agreed evening walk around the village. I'm sure it can be busy as a great place and lots of news builds around

This is our go-to stay when visiting family in Poole. Warm clean , luxurious and well priced . Food is great and of course it’s over a pub. What more could you want

A lovely pub set just outside Poole in Dorset unfortunately very quiet due to Covid but I bet it’s a busy pub normally also a plus is there limited rooms to rent which are very nice. A big thank you to James in the bar and Amy the waitress. Food was very tasty and filling but had a desert 😂 can’t recommend it enough

A beacon of joy was our stay - Tidy rooms, Good food (with locally sourced produce) & Staff trying hard to make your staff special A good place to visit and stay Paul L

We revisited after lock down , both are meals were really nice . We visited last year so were keen to revisit .Definitely a nice place to visit .

Great location for exploring the Poole area and Dorset. The rooms were refurbished in 2019 and to a high standard. They were spotlessly clean and very comfortable. The evening meal was very good and the two pints of DoomBar were the best I've ever tasted. The landlord said it was a matter of pride to keep a good cellar. He agreed to provide breakfast earlier than normal as I had to get off early, and the poached eggs on toast with coffee was superb. All in all a very happy stay and a place I would recommend without hesitation.

I stayed here for one night with my wife to get away from the kids . It is around 8 miles away from Poole. It was a difficult time for the pub - 50% off. They were full. We were advised that after 8 we could get food. We eventually received food after 9.30. The food was above average for pub grub. But that is not my observation from my visit.The rooms are newly built to a very high standard - you will not be disappointed!However the owners are pub managers and need to invest time to improve hospitality skills.This may not worry you so don't be put off.On the hottest day of the year, the room could have been aired a little. The entrance hall and room were like ovens - very unpleasant. There was a fan in the wardrobe which was not mentioned - we discovered it in desperation and it made the evening bareable. One bedside lamp was not working, there was a stain on the only easy chair in the room.Breakfast was good, poor chef was back in early after a late night. - note, if you are using small pots of jam, don't send half used pots out.Overall there was no warm welcoming charm, I felt that the rooms were an extra income (fabulous idea) built by a skilled builder, but that shouldn't be the end of it. Take thoughtful ownership of it, make it a wonderful place for people to visit - you will always be full.

Very clean and tidy. Tables well spaced out. Food was lovely with good size portions and very tasty. My children loved the chicken goujons. Rump steak was cooked perfectly. The veggie chilli was very tasty. Staff friendly and service was very prompt. A great meal.

After an unexpected change to our plans we had to book a last minute place. The Rose & Crown couldn’t have been more perfect. The staff are incredibly friendly and welcoming and accommodated all our requests. The room above was clearly brand new and everything was so clean and fresh, with lovely service touches. Food and atmosphere in the pub downstairs was great, with fast service with a smile!This is definitely an undiscovered gem near Poole and well worth the short drive from the harbour. The location is lovely (lots of nice golf courses and walks nearby) and friendly locals. We are looking forward to coming back soon!Thank you to all the staff who were so welcoming.

Fantastic Pub with great accommodation, little hiccup on arrival regarding our room but resolved within 5 minutes. The rooms are very good very modern surprising for a Pub, staff excellent and the food was fantastic. We really had an exceptional stay, we will definitely go back if we are around that area again. Thank you to all the staff for making our stay enjoyable.

I just had a terrible meal from there me and my girlfriend both had the chilli and rice from there the chilli tasted like it came out of a can and the rice was way over cooked and mushy will not be eating there again and would not recommend to anyone and to top it off the waitress over priced us as we order the small bite meal for 9.50 but charged us 13.50 for it and charged us for dash which is 80p which I didn’t order or don’t know what it is

Today, 26th April 2020, was excellent quality and value. And spot on time,Thank you, but I do not NEED to say more

What can I say!! A wonderful treat that completely made our day during the Coronavirus lock down. Expertly prepared and completely delicious The Yorkshire was my favourite part!All we needed to do was order over the phone then drive up and collect, very well organised. The crumble was amazing too, with perfectly made custard! Can't wait for the lock down to be over so we can visit properly again... I miss the lovely atmosphere!

I booked ahead for 8 people we received a friendly welcome on arrival. We had lunch which was excellent washed down with a good choice of beers.

It's not often one can find a pub that serves food and retains a local character. The Rose & Crown does just that. It has a decent number of restaurant tables that are a part of the pub. It's a good mix and contributes to the overall feel of the place.Sunday Roast,(beef for us both), in our opinion, is as good at gets. It is sensibly priced, of excellent quality with the quantities that allow for satisfaction and do not overwhelm. The vegetables were so well prepared and, crucially, the gravy was delicious.The Treacle Tart, (I'm old school) hit the spot, as did my wife's Pear & Ginger Sponge.The staff are friendly and welcoming.Worthy of a visit at any time.

Have just eaten one of the finest roast dinners I have ever had. A top notch home cooked meal that was excellent both in quality and portion size. Beautifully tender pork served with a huge array of vegetables of which the cauliflower cheese was the highlight. Add crunchy crackling, crispy potatoes and a fine gravy to the equation and I was one very happy man. The strawberry cheesecake that followed was divine too. Throw in the perfectly kept real ale and friendly and attentive staff and you have the end result of a memorable meal. Will definitely be visiting again.

Luckily my normal Premier Inn in Poole was full so I was forced to make a last minute reservation at the Rose & Crown for an overnight stay.I had an absolutely lovely room at the back of the pub, very clean, fresh looking and well equipped and away from any noise, although it was a quiet evening. The room had everything I needed and there was even a Nespresso machine, although no pods in the room although no doubt had I asked for them, as i did for fresh milk, they would have been provided with a smile.The bed allowed for a good sleep and the shower was powerful and hot, what more is required?The bar was busy for an hour or 2, clearly used and enjoyed by the locals-lucky people. Ales were varied and well served from a small range of breweries at at the special January sale price as well, my luck on having the Premier Inn full up was getting better and better. The landlord was engaged with his punters, including me, and the whole evening was a pleasant experience.The barmaid warned me that they had a large party in for a meal but to save me waiting took my order first, how good is that? The meal was good, sorry I can't remember exactly what I had now but i did enjoy it.Breakfast was freshly cooked, I opted for a light version and enjoyed it, so much better than heatlamps and buffet breakfasts.I get down to the Poole area on occasions and will always try to book in here first, although with only 4 rooms I'll have to be quick.

I rarely, if ever, drank in here when the pub was run by Hall & Woodhouse, but this place has been entirely transformed since becoming a freehouse and I now always endeavour to pop in whenever I'm back in the village. They always have three or four ales on, with Doom Bar a permanent fixture and a selection of rotating guest ales on the remaining pumps, always in tip-top condition. They've retained the separate public and lounge bars that I remember from my youth and there's a decent sized restaurant space down the far end, which I believe now has a number of rooms above it, which is great for a village low on accommodation options. The staff are always very friendly and there's usually a fair few locals in, ensuring a good atmosphere. If they'd bring back the annual beer festival, it would be ticking pretty much all of the boxes for me! Well worth checking out if you're in the area.

Very comfortable large double bed, en suite and good lighting with nice little touches in the room. Tea/coffee in the room as well as in the vestibule outside. Lovely and clean throughout. Access by outside staircase. Good English breakfast available in the pub below.

We booked this for our daughter's 6th birthday to use the water park in poole then stay over in a hotel for the night as her request. We came from Brighton and was the best place we found online picture wise and Was a very good price for the room and breakfast included too. It had all you needed in it too, down to every detail was decorated beautifully and honestly pictures were lovely when we booked but doesn't do it the slightest justice on what you walk in to it was stunning. Beds were so comfortable and shower had loads of room. Newly done too as we found out later. Was a joy to stay in. The food was lovely and same for all the staff and they were on point with everything. we all had steak and it was cooked to perfection just like the rest of the meal for dinner and Food arrived in good time too. Hardly any wait even though it was quite busy. We had the breakfast meal in the morning and little one had egg and bacon again it was lovely would come again without hesitation if we come here again.

Visited whilst in the area on holiday, we ordered Steak and ale pie £13.95 and beef chili £11.95 and a Cheesecake at £ 5.95. The meals were nice but a little bit expensive. A good selection of ales, not too expensive.

In the past had very good food here, but my last meal was very poor. You now have to order your food at the bar which in itself was difficult as there was only one bar maid on and all the bar stools were occupied so hard to catch the attention of said bar maid.

I just stayed here recently for nearly a week. Great spacious and clean rooms.

This a surprise find. Bedrooms newly decorated in style.This B&B; combines A village pub and smooth class. Rooms are easily comparable with more up market hotels. Healthy well cooked food, like the Family that run it, understated quality = relaxing stay . We had time to kill with our Grand children whilst waiting for their Dad. We were all made welcome so boys were able to relax after long journey. comfort seating which is often lacking in smaller establishment and in my book a must for instant comfort

Came here as they have some great live music on every now and then, been here a few times and have seen some really good performances from local bands that have put on a great show. Unfortunately tho this night there was a 2 woman act called Ritzy Chix? I was really disappointed as everyone else they have had there was able to sing. This act tho I’d only recommend to people I don’t like. Great pub with a lovely atmosphere and lovely food, in a very beautiful part of the world.

We have just came back from a three night stay at this homely pub. This pub has recently had an extension and no expense was spared. We stayed in the double bedroom which I can describe as good as a four star bedroom.

We were staying at a local campsite and all other places were fully booked on a Monday night. We found this on the internet and were surprised to get a table for 6 with an hours notice.

A lovely spread with a tasty variation of food. The chicken was particularly delicious. It was good to have a big choice of teas with hot water provided.Very good.

Great meeting place,very good friendly customer service .Great pub food at very good pricesClean and tidy place

I was staying in the village for two nights, and visited the pub for a pint, whilst waiting for my friend to arrive at our accommodation. The pub was quiet, apart from what appeared to be regulars surrounding the bar. Everyone stared as I tried to catch the attention of the staff behind the bar, and made no attempt to move when I attempted to see which real ales were available. The bar staff were of few words, but served me promptly. The beer was very good, and I sat around the other side of the bar. I eventually drank up, and left when two more regulars sat opposite, and attempted to make me feel uncomfortable. Given the unfriendly nature, perhaps the pub should be renamed 'Rose & Frown'.

Just had a lovely lunch at the Rose and Crown. A treat from our daughter. Varied menu with a few different choices, like the chocolate and pear dessert. So delicious and was homemade too.

A lovely family pub, nice atmosphere, warm and in a good location. Food is lovely and prices are reasonable. A bowl of chips is £2.75 and there were so many I couldn’t even finish them. Staff are polite and friendly. Dogs are welcome.

The food was as stated very good, although not particularly inexpensive, but the beer was variable, one good the other not. So beware.

Reasonable selection of real ales but no bottled beers, so can't do old fashioned beer mixing. (Brown & mild - light & bitter - stout & cider etc). Meals are good too.

Nice little pub with outside seating. Food is fine but as I say a little over priced for what it is. They forgot to bring the bread with the prawn cocktail but apologised. The steak came with what you would expect and was cooked to our requirements.

Went in for a quick pint, we are not locals, and were deliberately short changed.We believe that we were charged London prices but not what the locals are charged. A very unsocial place

Food brought outside to the table by polite barman with required cutlery and asked if we needed anything else. Veg seemed fresh not microwaved. Cottage pie seemed homemade as well.

We discovered the Rose and Crown totally by chance. We were having a bad day having gone to try an Italian Restaurant in Broadstone for the first time but they did not open for some reason and Broadstone is not an area we know very well so we were left floundering. We stopped at a pub we found up the road in Corfe Mullen but did not like the look of it much and so we headed to a pub in Lychett Matravers we had been to a couple of time is the past only to be told they do not do food on Monday's and Tuesday's! Fed up having not fed we decided to head home for a snack and to try again in the evening. I stopped to let a car turn across in front of me and noticed the Rose and Crown just ahead of us. We decided on one more try.

Perhaps we should have gone to The Chequers, having followed their signs from the main road we stopped in here hoping for lunch but they don't do food at lunchtime. They do decent beer and seem popular with the locals as there were quite a few people in on a Saturday lunchtime. The television was on constantly as it is in a lot of pubs these days but if you wanted a quick drink its good enough.