Restaurant at The Piddle Inn in West Dorset

I was unaware that the Pub was not actually open. Just the b and b. So instead of a lovely meal and drink in the Pub we stayed in which was my intention we had to get in the car and go out (moving the barrier across the car park to get out.) £105 outrageous price for 'Deluxe room'. which was basically a big room with a noisy fridge in it. Though it was very clean and comfortable. I received an email saying the pub was shut on the day I went on holiday to Cornwallm so didn't see it. Nowhere on there website does it say it's closed.

I was staying at a b&b in the village so thought I would give a try. We went on a Friday evening and it was quiet but as it was in August and a rural area maybe a lot of people were busy harvesting. The decor of the pub is very shabby. We had prawn cocktail, followed by fish and chips and then shared a ginger sponge. All was delicious and couldn't be faulted. The young man serving food was great.

We stayed for three nights and were very happy. Our room was bigger than we imagined and The River Piddle was just outside our window. The hosts were fabulous, the food and drinks were lovely and the locals were also friendly. We did two fairly long walks in the beautiful surrounding countryside which we found on the village website. If you fancy staying in a characterful Inn with gorgeous surroundings you can't go wrong.

Came for food, but unfortunately missed the time slots. (12-14:30 & 18:30-9ish I think). Had a piddle pislner though which was great, and gf had a coke. Nice setting next to a stream. Looked like a proper locals pub, which can be both good and bad.

On arrival not sure, but completely won over by staff, room spacious and clean and fab curry. Tom and kinita were delightful and very efficient. Give it a try you won't be disappointed! 😄

Had lunch here when visiting family. All four of us thoroughly enjoyed our meals. Staff were very friendly.

I had booked a table here for my mum's 75th birthday. As we entered the bar a local was being asked to leave as he was drunk and he was shouty. We were ignored for ten minutes before we asked if we could be seated, I had to order drinks from bar as no one came to our table. Menu was minimal and 3 food items unavailable. A CD was playing loud in eating area, songs included The Thong Song and to my dismay a track which included a lady heavy breathing in an 'erotic' way.... 3 pudding options, apple crumble, sponge or icecream.

Where do I start,Great food and wonderful service.nice and cosy in a quaint little village.very generous servings and food was cooked perfectly,waitresses were very polite and attentive.would recommend to anyone looking for a quality place to eat.

I always check the reviews of others when I have had a bad experience and in fairness the reviews are on the whole positive, but I don't think that any were for a Sunday. On arrival we were told only Sunday roasts were available either beef or Pork, fair enough quality over quantity I thought. Well what arrived is one of the worst meals I have ever seen on a plate, and when you think I have spent my life vetting hotels and restaurants all over the world for major company travel incentives that is some claim. The vegetables were ok but the Yorkshire pudding was under-cooked, the beef looked good but was a bit tough, not helped by blunt knives, but the roast potatoes had a burnt outer skin made of cardboard and a sliver of white potato in the middle all covered in a mass of salty gravy. To be fair when I said the potatoes were inedible they offered to pay for our round of drinks, What is unforgivable is the attitude of the person from the kitchen, who told me that when she had put them on the plate herself they were perfect and their had been no other complaints, by all of 4 other older people eating who probably wouldn't complain anyway. To add insult to injury was her dismissive body language when she went of in a huff, now that really was unforgivable. The good news is the waitresses were attentive and handle the complaint well and there is a branch of Specsavers in Dorchester.

Good tasty food, good portion size and always hot. Friendly efficient staff. Pleasant environment. I don't eat meat but there was enough variety on the menu and a wonderful pudding menu.

We were staying nearby and decided to try this restaurant on the hoof. Wow we were not disappointed in the least. Service was excellent and our waitress and landlady gave us a potted history of the pub. The food was fantastic. Hot, well served and excellent value for money. I would recommend the specials board. Our wine was simply lovely and all drinks served in sparkling glasses. The rooms looked lovely so I would feel confident in recommending a stay in the accommodation. We will definitely be returning.

Después de alojarnos en El Inn Piddle hace unos meses y hacernos sentir tan bienvenidos y tener una estancia tan agradable, decidimos volver, muy contentos de hacerlo. El personal no podría haber sido más servicial o simpático. La comida era fantástica y una buena relación calidad-precio. Lo recomiendo encarecidamente.

Empty pub,skeleton staff,beer was off,prices changed according to who served you...landlady obviously oblivious to the customers needs,,,in a word,LACKLUSTRE!

A really interesting baguette with brie and cranberry. A poor and bland tuna sandwich. Wonderful, crispy chips. Very unadventurous and boring side salad. Abba very loud (you may or may not like this). Extremely quiet. Good and friendly service. So? A mixed review. At £22 including a glass of red wine and pint of excellent Piddle Ale, the value is also not bad. Would we go back? Probably. Are there better pubs for food in the area? Certainly.

When the pub is fairly empty during the summer holidays, it should have rang alarm bells. Food was poor and clearly not made fresh - I would think brought in ready made and desert not even defrosted. My first and last visit. There are much better pubs than this in the area. Do not understand the other reviews. Alot of flies as well in pub

Went to the piddle inn for the first time last Saturday. What a brilliant pub. 5* Fantastic food and very polite and helpful staff. Going again next week and taking some friends with us.

We ordered cod, chips and mushy peas. My husbands fish was lovely and fresh. However my fish was tough to eat and had obviously been cooked twice. It was inedible. I had to leave most of it. The mushy peas had a crust on top and the chips were just about hot. To be fair we didn't complain (my husband hates complaining and would rather not go back) so they didn't get a chance to rectify it. The owners were no where in sight and in the bar was just a young girl.

Ok meal, service poor, which didn't help as the girl was on her own. Ate our meal with the delightful sound of the locals using foul language at the bar, not what you want to hear. Shame as we revisited it as it was my late fathers favour ate pub.

Excellent food and service given for my Grandsons Celebration Day. We were a party of 16 and the management could not do enough to ensure everything was correct for us

After a walk round the locality, we just managed to get in before last orders for food. We chose the Pensioners Specials. The ladies had plaice and chips, and I had Steak and Kidney Pudding. The food was well cooked and presented, and served by very helpful staff. Excellent value for money.

Lovely spot by a stream selling good ale ,food on the bar on Sunday lunchtime ( nice touch ) lots of nice seats outside and the lunches looked okay .There was a singer there in the afternoon and lots of drinking going on ,when we returned for an evening meal unfortunately the atmosphere outside where we were sitting was not pleasant ,spoiled by a group of loud locals including staff and one local letting out obscenities ,which in fairness one staff member sat in the group did remind him there were children around .we had our drinks and left so we cannot comment on the food as we did not have confidence to try it .I expect most times it's okay but the owner may wish to remind some regulars that their behaviour may drive customers away .

We visited at a quiet time early evening, made ourselves comfortable with our dogs and enjoyed a good dinner at very modest prices. The landlord & landlady were both very hospitable and chatty and we whiled away a pleasant half-hour or so with them after our meal. A lovely, friendly, village pub!

The meal was superb! Wonderful size portions that didn't disappoint! I had the lasagne absolutely lovely way to much but lovely! Not one complaint from our table. I only offer a little friendly constructive criticism the chips were a little to crispy with my lasagne! And for a party of ten three kids and seven adults £100+ not a bad price either,I picked up quite a few of ur business cards to pass around to family and friends. Wonderful meal and super staff nothing was to much trouble...would recommend to friends!!!

The standard of the food was not good at all. I was expecting much better quality for the prices charged. We also ate in The Poachers Inn a short distance away and were blown away by the high standard of the food and service for the same price range. Maybe the menu should be smaller and the quality of produce used improved? Just an observation.

We stopped here for lunch. It is typical village pub but has a big restaurant as well. I had a ploughmans in the bar area. It was very good and plenty to eat. The staff were welcoming

This was a busy little village pub. Menu was classic British pub grub at sensible prices. Yes it's not the most amazing meal I've ever had but It was perfectly acceptable for the price. The portions were very generous. We judge on value for money and for 2 x 3 courses, 1 x 2 course, 2x glasses of wine, 3 soft drinks & 2 coffees all for under £60 we've no complaints.

Went to this public house as it is local to me very poor standards of food poor menu poorly trained staff with no idea what food is all about after talking to a member of the staff and seeing the food being served we decided it's not the place for us

Lovely country Inn plenty of charm, staff were friendly and efficient. Good food and comfortable accommodation.

Great Home cooked food and service we will be back soon thank you we all hada great night with are friends

Awful food. Never, never recommend. They should try cooking from scratch not from brought in frozen food, that's how it looked and tasted.

We were a bit dubious about ordering food as it was a Saturday lunchtime and 6 people in the bar including 4 of us. Someone at the bar received their food and as it looked good we stayed and ordered. I would have to rate my bacon and cheese sandwich as one of the best I've ever had, very fresh bread and lovely crispy bacon and a generous side salad. The side order of cheesy chips was huge and easily big enough for two. Great Irish music playing which is always a big plus point for me and friendly bar staff. Good food at a very reasonable price. Would like to try a full meal here sometime.

We cannot recommend this inn highly enough! We immediately felt at home from the moment we walked in the door. The service was excellent and our hosts were friendly and nothing was to much trouble. Our room was gorgeous and clean and the shower was awesome!!! Our evening meal was delicious and my girlfriend was happy as there was a large choice of vegetarian meals. We bought our dog with us and he was equally welcomed... We have already booked two more nights for next year and we are looking forward to it. Everyone who comes to this part of the country should come here and enjoy this place, they won't regret it. Thank you piddle inn for making our anniversary so memorable. Glenn and Sue Hennessy.

Not a nice place , walked in and place was empty .... We should have turned round right away . Very young bar staff , young barmaid only interested in her mobile phone rabbiting on about Facebook , then the little angel started swearing ... What a treat that was !!

Thank you piddle inn for a great time food yet again was excellent"All myfamily and friends had a lovely time

Popped in here on the way back from an afternoon out and how I wish we hadn't bothered! It was half 5 in the afternoon so very quiet except for 3 very loud and extremely foul-mouthed men. They looked like construction workers (vans parked in car park) and had no problem with talking very loudly and using the F word in every sentence they uttered. It was very embarrassing and both my husband and I were thinking that they would see other patrons at the bar (us) and curb their foul mouths. No such luck! We found ourselves a place to sit as far away from them as possible but could still hear them. Neither of the bar staff seemed to even notice their language, even though I said in front of one of them 'nice language'. The men were late 20s, 40s and 50s so no excuse for such unpleasant behaviour. Having read through other reviews on here, I see this was not the first time recently that patrons have had to deal with foul-mouthed locals. We didn't stay for food so can't comment on that but tbh, the pub is stuck in a time warp with grim furniture and carpets. There are so many other lovely country pubs where a warm welcome is genuine and with a decent refurb, that I'd recommend driving right on by.

This pub is fairly local to me but had been ruined by the previous management, SO pleased to see new management has turned it back into the great village pub it always used to be, friendly landlord and staff, good selection of beers and a great menu. Well worth a visit.

We were staying at The Brace of Pheasants in Plush and had a ride out to find somewhere for an evening meal when we came across the Piddle Inn. What a great find. Very welcoming, and such a lovely village pub with a great setting.We had starters and a main and couldn't even mange a desert. Soups and pate were delicious, Steak pie was to so tasty as was the Sunday lunch and all extremely plentiful with such a lovely selection of veg.Very reasonably priced and would most certainly recommend if you were in the area. Thanks for a lovely evening.

Visited with family group (5 adults). Very pleasant surroundings, in the centre of the village (Good car park and & spotless toilets too! ).Friendly helpful staff.Terrific value for money and quality of food - ended up spending a lot more because it was so good! Ended up having a lunch and a dinner there, in both the restaurant and 'snug'!Relaxed but attentive style and friendly for all manner of family/other groups.Highly recommend.

Piddle inn thank you for a excellent food and service We had a supper time!Will be back soon just excellent"

On a family holiday in beautiful Dorset. From the outside this old inn looks lovely and it is set right in the heart of the very pretty little village of Piddletrenthide. We booked ahead just to make sure but we need not have bothered as on the night the place was empty. When we pitched up as a family and said we had got a table booked one of the locals drinking in the bar openly laughed at us....not a good start. We were vaguely waved to a table, not shown, and then told all the things which were sold out of the menu that night. I suppose it was a Sunday in the middle of August and I expect they had been very busy but it was still early, 18.30, so no Fish and Chips or Sunday roast or even any Piddle beer was a bit of a blow. The Waitress was sweet and polite and kind but clearly not well informed about the ingredients of the dishes. We enquired about Gluten free and Dairy free and she went off to find out but we are not entirely convinced the information she came back with was correct. We made our choices and the food arrived very quickly!! It was just about edible. Very basic and not particularly appetising. My steak was leathery, chips were anaemic and my son and daughter in laws steak and ale pie was watery with an absolute overload of onions and whole peppercorns. My eldest son did enjoy his vegetarian bean dish and my grandaughter enjoyed her fish fingers and smiley faces although it would be very hard to mess that up. We did complain about the pie, my youngest son never leaves anything on his plate but couldnt face eating all his pie and chips. The poor little Waitress was very apologetic but it wasnt her fault. There was no sign of a manager. We paid and hastily left noticing the badly stained carpet as we went. The Waitress was standing in the front doorway having a cigarette as we exited, not exactly giving an overwhelming professional air to the place. She apologised again as we left, bless her.

Very good restaurant in a lovely old building,only downside was that it was a little noisy as many locals were quenching their thirst and shooting the breeze(certainly far from sedately) after a hard days work so it is necessary to get a seat at the far side of the dinning room if you are dinning early as we were. The fare was traditional but very tasty and the service was efficient and courteous.Those with not so hearty appetites might want to choose to from the array of tempting dessert instead of a starter as portions very generous.Caveat- don't go if you detest horses - wall decorations favour them.

We visited this pub for Sunday lunch and it was lovely the staff are very welcoming and the food was worth every penny we paid this is defiantly a MUST. Would recommend to everyone.

We Went to the piddle inn for a meal 6 of us had a lovely food well cooked and wellpriced and vary well looked after we will all be back soon !GREAT PUB!

Meeting with family over the Christmas period took us to this pub, which I understand to be under new ownership. Compared to many modern establishments, the decor and food is a little dated but it has everything of what I would expect of a local pub in a small village.The staff were friendly, the food was above average with decent portions. None of the group could find fault with any of the food. In fact, I think many felt there was too much!The best bit I believe was the simple pricing structure. From the main menu, all starters and deserts £5, all mains £10. Simple and easy to calculate and split, especially in a big group of you!

the piddle , in the piddle valley, in piddletrentide,now under new ownership new menu new decor and best of all a new attitude ,we visited last sunday for lunch which was well cooked,good old fashioned roast potatoes and real gravy, and for afters homemade bread and butter pud.long may it last,oh by the way do not forget your appitite you will need it.

we passed through the village Piddletrenthide when staying in North Dorset on route to Weymouth. Got to say the village is beautiful. tinkling brook down either side of the road that runs into the river piddle. The river piddle itself runs along the rear of the pub which has seating next to it. Its only shallow so safe for the kids.inside the pub is light and airy. the menu is big. probably too big. the food though was very good. we mainly ate the seafood which was really good. i know they have rooms although we have never stopped. in short the village itself is worth a visit so with a great pub too you cant go wrong

I have visited Italy several times and eaten in many independent and chain based Italian restaurants and this was up there with the best. At £5 for either a pizza or pasta dish this is the best value Italian I have ever had. The tastes and flavours were superb and I will be visiting it again.

A friendly and welcoming pub with a good menu choice. The food was all freshly prepared and very good. We had the best bruschetta ever here! Make sure you are hungry as the portions are generous

We found this pub on The internet, wanting to go away for the weekend with our dog. Although the pub sounds lovely by name it is on a long lane, not really on a village just on the side of the road w ith a tiny little stream running by. The pub is choc a bloc full of tat, loads of ornaments and hundreds of family photos, the stairway up to the room was extremely smelly and not nice. The food in the pub dreadful! really bad and no effort made on presentation, just plonked on the plate and really grim! breakfast not as bad as previous reviews but do yourself a favour! there are lots of nicer places around, the New Inn in Verne Abbas, absolutely fab food and service. The piddle. Inn s owner only bothered to speak to us on our last morning. Could be lovely, but truly awful!

the free house is in the heart of the piddle valley and the piddle runs along side the pub so a sit in the garden on a summers day is very calming and relaxing. the food can vary form season to season some good/not so good all depend on your taste.

I'd reserved in advance but needn't have, there were only about 12 other customers there. The owner had a brisk manner from the start and we were repeatedly pestered to make our food choices which made us feel like a nuisance. When the food arrived it was all badly overcooked. My partner's Italian pasta bake was burnt on top and the pasta contained had dried out. The chicken breasts in the other 3 meals were all like rubber and impossible to chew like they were over microwaved. My parents ate what they could but I chose to send mine back as it was very unpleasant. They offered me a replacement meal which I declined because the idea was to eat together. The desserts are clearly bought in pre-packed, tiny and tasteless. We were all disappointed by the experience. Obviously I did not pay for the meal that was sent back and the owners did not charge for my sweet as a gesture. The bill was over £65 so I think they did pretty well really for bad service and bad food. Seriously there are so many other options people - just don't go there!!

We stayed at the Piddle Inn, and the accommodation was very good, but the restaurant just didn't reach the same standard. We were going to eat in the bar on the first night (we had a dog with us so couldn't take her into the restaurant) but with the TV on it just didn't have the country pub feel so we went down the road to Cerne Abbas. To be honest, the TV's (there were 2 in a fairly small area) seemed to be there for the benefit of the staff rather than the customers, except when the rugby was on when 2 people came in to watch. On the second night Mario kindly said that we could leave the dog in the room whilst we ate, so we tried the Friday night offer of a sirloin steak for £9.95. The presentation was poor, with chips, mushrooms and tomatoes but no peas, and the steak was not at all tender. At least mine was cooked OK, but my husbands was overcooked and very tough so we sent it back and didn't pay for it. The whole meal, from quality to the way it was presented, was very poor. It was a shame, as the restaurant itself is quite nice. It just lacks the professional touch - for example, tidy up the handwriting on the blackboards. On weekdays there is a happy hour and the place gets quite busy with locals but no-one seems to stay to eat - like us, they seemed to go up the road. The standard of the food would need to dramatically improve for the restaurant side to reach its potential. What a shame!

Went for a lunchtime drink and food (also to watch the rugby match on tv), the greeting was very warm and the food menu vast. We all tried something different and none of us were disappointed or hungry once we had finished. We all enjoyed our visit and would definitely go back if in the area.

Decided to grab something quick to eat at The Piddle Inn, as it was a nice place to have a pint or few. Had a lasagne tihnking i would be safe, as it's typical pub grub and also cooked by the Italian owner/chef. It was the weirdest lasagne i had ever had and was also probably the most greasiest thing i have ever had!Really didn't enjoy any of the food and felt very sick for the rest of the night. Was massivly shocked that an Italian would serve up food like that!

My wife & I, together with my step-father visited here recently, not knowing it had changed hands to what is now basically an Italian restaurant selling beer.Being an elderly gentleman who prefers to stick to good old UK meat and two veg type meals, my step-father was quite lost with the Italian menu, but I noticed there was steak & kidney pie available. I wasn't prepared to taste it as I cannot stand the taste of kidney, so can only accept what he said was valid in that: - "That was the worst tasting pie I have ever eaten!"I enjoyed my halibut, I must admit, but their downfall at this place came when they served my wife (a just recently retired chef in a four star hotel) a lasagne with at LEAST an inch of green mould growing on the top.My wife bitterly complained and apart from a cursory "I am so sorry, I'll tell the chef to get a new pair of glasses", she was offered no other form of compensation or apology. Whilst her replacement meal was OK , though in her own words , "It wasn't as good as my own lasagne, and in any event, the serving of the bright green carpet completely put me off my meal."AS we left, I told the owner that instead of telling the chef to get new glasses, he ought to go to Specsavers himself and get a new pair, seeing as he'd served the lasagne to my wife and hadn't apparently noticed what looked like a tennis court on top! I also made the comment that he ought to use his newly acquired glasses to find himself a new chef.After leaving The Piddle Inn, my wife advised me on the food quality checks that are standard in all decent food establishments, such as food rotation in freezers and temperature probing etc.She stated that it was obvious no such checks were being made at this place, because in order to get a growth of mould one inch high it would have taken at least a week. She's been in the catering industry since she left school in 1964 and finally retired last February as chef in a very high ranking hotel. She assured me that such things should not and could not happen if food rotation checks had correctly been carried out, and that it appeared the management of The Piddle Inn were simply not keeping tabs on the kitchen staff in order to ensure they were doing their daily checks.I was so disgusted that when we arrived back at my step-fathers flat, I personally telephoned the local Environmental Health Office who said they would arrange to make an unannounced visit and inspection. I've not yet heard back from them, but would sincerely recommend that no-one even THINKS of eating here unless they are assured that a new chef in in residence, and possibly, better still, new owners.Considering the old adage that "The book stops at the top", I doubt very much indeed if any of us would ever again visit "The Piddle" whilst these two Italians are still in charge.They obviously don't know how to control their kitchen staff.

We decided to eat here and really wish we hadn't! Our starters were ok but our mains were very mediocre. One meal was served a good few minutes before the other. On the menu it stated dauphinois potatoes but was served up with undercooked new potatoes in a tomato sauce. The dessert wasn't any better. Profiteroles but not as I know them! They were disgusting! We were asked if we had enjoyed our meal. I had to be honest and say that it wasn't brilliant and were disappointed. The young man was apologetic and asked if there was anything they could do? I hope that this was just an off night but we would not be inclined to go back again.

My wife and I had a meal at the Piddle Inn to celebrate a significant birthday at the end of July 2012.The food was excellent and the service was very good. The restaurant 'ambience' was extremely pleasant. The menu was much more varied than when we last dined in the Piddle Inn (in August 2010) and in our view the food was much more tasty and better presented.The table was laid spotlessly and the overall cleanliness of the restaurant was superb - the toilets (always a good indication of clenaliness elsewhere) were spotlessly clean. We were looked after superbly by Joanna (the landlady / owner of 4 months) and being an Irish girl she had gorgeous blue eyes and had a fabulous singing voice (she sang my Irish wife and I a couple of Irish songs).A great evening - thanks Joanna.

Having waited in excess of half an hour to be served, my wife was brought a lasagne which was totally cold in the centre, an obvious health hazard. In a way it was fortunate that the meal was clearly cold, since luke warm reheated food would have posed a more difficult decision about whether to eat it. At that point we decided to leave rather wait further with no guarantee there would not be any other problems. At least the landlord accepted that we had a valid complaint and did not charge us for the two soft drinks we had consumed while waiting.

Outside was a sign saying that the restaurant was under new ownership, I don't know how long it has been there, but it now seems to be part Italian. I decided on the Tagliatelli and I wasn't disappointed. A lovely creamy sauce with mushrooms and bacon.

Enticed by beautiful, unseasonal spring weather, we met friends at this lovely country pub. Drinks in the picturesque small garden, alongside the River Piddle, followed by lunch in the bar/restaurant, featuring locally sourced produce, well-prepared and presented, and served by pleasant and accommodating staff. First class... Sadly the landlord/landlady are moving on shortly, but it is to be hoped that the new tenants will maintain the standards.

My colleagues and I (10 of us in total) stopped here for lunch midweek on the way through Dorset. We booked ahead and they had set up a table for us in the pub - however as it was a nice day we asked if we could sit outside and they said no problem. The outside area is fairly small but it is quiet and the river is just next to it (as others have said more a stream!)The waiter was excellent and attentive - one of our party was vegetarian and had little choice on the main menu but the waiter spoke to the chef and sorted out a meal for her which she said was delicious.We ordered a variety of food - portions were huge and it was really tasty too. We didn't spend too long inside the actual Inn as the weather was good but what we did see was clean and in good order.

We stayed at the Piddle Inn in March. It has great accommodation - a very peaceful setting, with stunning views from the bedroom. The room was very spacious, really nicely decorated and clean. Breakfast was beautifully cooked and served by a friendly waitress - there was a good choice. Most of the food is cooked from local produce - which is really nice and comes accross in the cooking as everything is fresh and seasonal. Our evening meal was really good. An excellent fish blackboard menu accompanies a wide selection of other dishes. Our food was homemade, using fresh ingredients and the pub staff were exceptionally friendly and accommodating. I had local scallops - cooked beautifully and my husband had pigeon - great flavours. Would recommend for a great weekend break.

Ate at the Piddle Inn twice on our recent stay at the Poachers Inn Piddletrenthide. At the Piddle Inn we experienced wonderful food and a friendly welcome. A variety of wonderful fresh fish and locally sourced meat dishes were available as well as delicious deserts.I can fully recommend the Seabass, Fillet steak, and Chocolate torte.I wish we had found this place earlier rather than having our anniversary dinner at the Poachers Inn where there just didn't seem to be any atmosphere.