Based on 2.019 opinions finded in 3 websites
Based on 2.019 opinions finded in 3 websites
Nº 461 in 2812 in Glasgow City
Nº 20 of 115 Indian in Glasgow City
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This place is just beautiful. The food was absolutely delicious, probably the best Indian cuisine I've had in a very long time. The staff were very attentive and really lovely , the atmosphere of the place was great too. Very relaxed vibe, great pricing. Enjoyed very much. Thankyou ☺️
lisa Marie . 2024-12-04
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Really nice, garlic chili chicken was great.
Graeme Mcnulty . 2024-11-30
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Used to love Nakodar. Never had a problem with any dishes. On Friday last week that changed. We ordered two curries and two rice. Plus a man bread. The nan was brittle, thin and burnt. The curries were very poor. No spice and quite bland. The rice wasn't great. There was a very strong vinegary taste, possibly from rhe rice. The taste was so strong we binned both curries/rice. Such a shame as the food used to be great.
Craig Rough . 2024-11-19
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Great restaurant, friendly staff and amazing food.
Gordon F . 2024-11-09
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Good place for an Indian meal very quiet as it was just opening time when we got there got busier as we were leaving
James Lyon . 2024-10-31
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Love the food always great service really friendly place. Went again 14/10/24 and still amazing, staff were brilliant, food was brilliant and made my son and my birthday fabulous. Would highly recomend eating there, I have also used them for take away and food is still immense, a must for great food.
Johanna Wardlow . 2024-10-14
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Brilliant food , only negative point is quite tight around the table , not alot of space
Fiona Suffredini . 2024-10-11
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Lovely place, greeted with a nice warm welcome by the friendly staff team. The restaurant was extremely clean and had a really vibrant feel. We ordered online for a takeaway, the ETA timings were perfect for pick up and the food served was excellent. Would highly recommend. Thank you Nakodar Grill
craigpaps . 2024-10-11
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Fantastic place to eat, the service was very quick, and the food was brilliant, I will definitely be going again.
Steven Robertson . 2024-10-02
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Food is nice enough but def not the best I’ve had though- the starters are now overpriced and the nans much smaller in the past you got a large nan now the nan size is a lot less and now cut up into pieces, not worth £5 - I wouldn’t rush back as there are and better places in Glasgow for better value.
Freedom07045089730 . 2024-09-01
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This is our number one “go to” place for a curry in Glasgow. In all the years we have been visiting, we have yet to be disappointed by any of the food or the service we have received. Staff are so friendly and always on hand to advise on dishes we are trying for the first time. Yesterday we decided to try the scallop starter dish for the first time but asked our lovely waiter if the sauce could be served separately. He was more than happy to oblige and didn’t hesitate to ask how we preferred the scallops to be cooked giving the option of steamed or grilled. The dish was amazing and more than a generous portion for the price of the dish. It’s the little things like this that puts Nakodar grill top of our list!!! We have celebrated birthdays, anniversaries and other special occasions here and the staff always go the extra mile to ensure a happy and memorable experience!! When recommending the venue to family and friends, all of them have similar high praise and are now all regular patrons. Keep up the good work guys…..you can’t improve on perfection 💚💚💚
Marydoll1966 . 2024-08-25
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Quite easily my favourite place to eat out in the east end, would highly recommend the naan bread and their curry’s
energetic pencil . 2024-08-19
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Friendly staff, lovely food and very fairly priced. Handy location too. I’ll be back soon !
Callum G . 2024-08-19
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Highly recommend, polite staff and brilliant service.
Lewis Grant . 2024-08-19
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Place was dead on a friday and it was pay day ! Well overpriced and really stingy portions chappatis were thin and small At £12.95 for a really small dish of curry and a tea cup of rice no wonder folk have stayed away
Sean B . 2024-08-02
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Very disappointed..been here loads of times....take away had vegetable pakora mostly broken into tiny pieces. The 2 curries were very watery. Wouldn't have received this if we sat in.
John C . 2024-07-19
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Always great food, friendly service and the price is great for the quality and portion sizes
Lawrence Keenan . 2024-07-18
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A fabulous restaurant, with wonderful staff and exquisite food. Whenever my son and I visit my father in Glasgow we make our way to the Nakodar grill and we are always thrilled with the experience. On this particular occasion, (Father's Day weekend) we were waited on by Olivia who was warm, professional and attentive. The Lamb Methi Ghosht was succulent and just perfectly spiced. The Bhoona was classically fruity and brought a smile to my father's face. For me, the Baingan Bharta (crushed aubergine) was beautifully smoky with a lipsmacking kick. The charred skin brought the smoke and added a light and lovely crisp bite every few mouthfuls or so. If I could add a thought for improvement it would be for the roti to have a little more ghee drizzled on it and perhaps to be a little thinner and fluffier (a personal preference, not a most have). We absolutely cannot wait to come back again...thank you for maintain such high standards over our 7 years of visits!
Jamie N . 2024-06-15
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1st visit , food was very good as was service , definitely go back
Christine Morrison . 2024-05-26
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The very Best Indian food in the whole of Glasgow, Excellent service compliments the food.
Mohammed Shakil . 2024-05-13
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I have used this place plenty of times in the past. Yesterday experience was terrible. Chicken curry was not the best chicken was over cooked , sauce was tasteless , rice was hard lying from the night before . Lamb starter was not up to much aswell . Overall next time I will keep driving by this place.
Music Boy . 2024-04-29
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This place had probably the best Indian food I've ever had in the UK. The Chicken Karahi was well balanced as you could taste every component and the sauce tied it altogether beautifully. The service was incredibly quick and we had drinks, starters and main course all within an hour during peak time on a Saturday night. I will definitely come back again when I'm next in Glasgow.
Dominic Rogers . 2024-04-28
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The beer garden is lovely plenty heaters and sameeh was great setting them up for us, great service! I top of that the mango chutney is to die for.
harveyt428 . 2024-04-23
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I titled this as a hidden gem because that’s exactly what it is. I dined here two weeks ago with friends and tonight I got a takeaway and I have to say whether dining in or takeaway the food is excellent. I love Indian food and have eaten at all the Indian restaurants in Glasgow and I know the good ones from the bad but I have to say this one escaped me and it’s a joy to find one that slipped through the net. The staff as very attentive and friendly and they will try their very best to accommodate any requests you may have. The food is excellent plain and simple and this is now my new haunt in Glasgow for Indian food, and I’m glad I found it … please try it you will not be disappointed.
Alex H . 2024-03-12
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Fantastic garlic and chilli curry
Rdawg69 . 2024-03-05
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Waited 50 minutes for takeaway just for it too be the worst indian food ever ... paneer butter masala disgusting.. doesn't look or taste like human food.. there was some naan in garlic naan.
akshita bhardwaj . 2024-03-01
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Chef obviously must be punjab because if he thinks this food is authentic and good HE IS DEFINITELY ON DRUGS... Paneer butter masala was out if this world coz it doesn't belong on this earth... alien food... tasted and smelled like forbidden juice. food does not look FDA approved.
Aadya Bhardwaj . 2024-03-01
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I have been getting takeaway from this restaurant for a good number of years. I rang to order my usual meals to find the number was unavailable which I found odd. I continued to ring for a further 20min constantly to eventually get through. It took me almost 10 minutes to place the order. Chap on the other end kept repeating back to me the wrong order to which I corrected in total of 5 times, told to wait, wasn’t listening, to be eventually told it would be 20min for my collection. I arrived 20min later to collect my order to find the entire order was wrong. I asked about the difficulty getting through when I arrived to be told they have added additional phone lines and apologised, apologised for the entire order being wrong to which I had to wait a further 20 minutes for it to be made. Got home with our dinner eventually for the vast majority of it to go in the bin! I ordered a sag paneer, it was a tub of EXTREME salty badness sauce that went in the bin with little to no paneer. The chicken dishes were of much the same standard - dried out ( overcooked), not much of it was edible. Unfortunately the Nakadar seem to be be driven over numbers (orders, £’s ) over quality of their orders. Would I return - absolutely not! I would avoid here at all costs if you want to be out of pocket and hungry! Dining in the restaurant itself may be a totally different experience, can send stuff back instead of it going in the bin.
Angela Mckenzie . 2024-02-25
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Different chef and my meal was absolutely nothing like what I normally get and when I asked the waitress she wasn’t interested, I certainly won’t be back
Aaron magee . 2024-02-22
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This is a great local curry restaurant. Food is always good and great service. Unfortunately the prices have risen
Kim Robertson . 2024-02-14
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Love the Nakodar Grill food is lovely staff are lovely been going here for years now xxx
Carolanne Reynolds . 2024-01-15
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Absolutely fantastic 1st experience of Nakodar, service impeccable and friendly, food was beautiful and great value for money. I can't wait to get back here and try more dishes.
Steven McKay . 2024-01-14
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Arrived for lunch early and was shown to our table and ordered drinks no fuss no waiting. Ordered our starters and mains along with some added extras food arrived piping hot and within a very reasonable time and tasted absolutely delicious.Glad we arrived early as it soon started to get busy. Would certainly recommend as we have been coming here for years and the staff are very attentive so remember and leave them a nice tip.
William Reid . 2023-12-29
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First time trying here and we were not disappointed. Food was great. You need to buy rice etc seperate so remember this when ordering
G1585JValanl . 2023-12-28
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Great curry! We ordered from here twice now and each dish was exceptional - amazing flavours, lamb that melts in the mouth, and, the bonus: generous portions . We will keep this wee place on top of our list.
Mark L . 2023-12-22
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Super place to have a nice meal.
Martin McKenna . 2023-12-03
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This was always my favourite Indian until the past few times I’ve had a takeaway. They have added a different spice to them pakora and spicy onions & it’s not tasking better ! I don’t like it and sadly won’t be back due to this . I’ve been eating there for the past 4 years . Going to look for another place . Staff are always nice here . It’s also very pricey compared to other places .
Ann-Marie Blair . 2023-11-13
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Had to change my tikka masala as it was bland ,second bhuna was totally tasteless, very disappointed,must give praise to the manager who did not charge for the meal ,but overall I would not rush back
Angela Macdonald . 2023-11-12
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Chicken pakora bit over cooked not impressed with the main meal
Donna Grieve . 2023-10-08
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1st class food beautiful and good size portion would 110%recommend again.
Sharon Walker . 2023-10-07
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Saag paneer is excellent. Just the way I like it
Steven Harley . 2023-09-27
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Have loved this place since it opened. The best Indian food I have ever had. The beer garden upgraded is great for a beer and quick munch.
Ross Williamson . 2023-09-20
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I go here pretty regularly- the food is amazing and service is always outstanding!
Roisín Choudhury . 2023-09-07
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I tell everyone about Nakodar because it's just that good. From the bad reviews I see it's people whinging about a cloudy beer (ask for another?) and being on hold for delivery (use an app?). Everything I've had has been really good, been ordering for years now.
Blair mcmillan . 2023-08-20
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I called to get home delivery, a female answered and told me to hold on ,which took 3 to 4 mins,WHY!!, Then i gave her my order wich i had to keep repeating ,gave my address 3 times ,then i guy takes over and goes througb it all again . Then another guy comes on to ask my address AGAIN !!!!., After about 15 mins in total repeating myself ,i gave up . What a way to run a business, cant get it right first time, or even 3 times. Surely the owner must address this issue..or maybe it was owner on phone ..which is worse.. Oh ..and still no home delivery. Poor service.
k9bluedog . 2023-07-30
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Amazing. Been a few times recently and highly recommend here.
Stuarty Boy . 2023-07-29
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Cannot even accurately describe how nice the food is in here. The best indian food we've had and somewhere we will keep coming back to. Staff were so welcoming and friendly and the food arrived in no time. just an absolute treat on all fronts and i'll be recommending to everyone
onlythebrave . 2023-07-11
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Curry was mild, but you can get hotter and really spice if you like. A nice bottle of wine, shared with a friend. A belated birthday treat.
Linda Grant . 2023-07-07
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Done dine in and takeaway both excellent
William Armstrong . 2023-06-27
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Excellent service and delicious food. The chicken pakora was amazing. I had tandoori chicken main and my husband had chicken phal. Ladies fingers and Peshawari nan all fabulous. Can’t wait to return
K7869DTclaireh . 2023-06-19
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Had a great meal on Saturday night at my daughter's birthday party. Mixed pakora starter really tasty. Garlic chilli lamb really tender and had a nice kick. My wife loved her lamb chops. Would definitely return if I'm in the area
craig Waite . 2023-06-19
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First time visiting won’t be the last the food was fantastic and staff very friendly. Service was fantastic and the cost was very reasonable will certainly be back soon.
Eamonn Mellon . 2023-06-19
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This is probably my favourite restaurant in Glasgow. My go to place for all family functions. The food, service, and ambiance is terrific. The lamb phaal as always, was excellent. I would also highly recommend the honey and ginger naan.
Peter Melville . 2023-06-18
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We ordered three vegetarian curries, naan bread and rice and all tasted very good. The service was great and the prices are fair.
janinebW448JV . 2023-06-10
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Very nice food and a lovely venue. It was busy when we got there and it had a good atmosphere. The food tasted amazing and came out really quick, a little more pricey than most places I go however it was well worth it.
Martyn Stillman . 2023-06-06
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Nakodar Restaurant is a true gem! The staff is incredibly polite and attentive, providing exceptional service throughout my visit. The food here is a testament to authentic Indian cuisine, bursting with genuine flavors and spices. From the fragrant biryanis to the rich curries, each dish is prepared with finesse and showcases the chef's expertise. If you're looking for a memorable dining experience with true Indian flavors, Nakodar Restaurant is a must-visit. Disclaimer: This review is based on my personal experience and reflects my honest opinion about Nakodar Restaurant.
Vasileios Topouzis . 2023-05-21
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Brilliant service and good as always! Great value
Amy . 2023-05-15
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Very generous portions. Food was good. Service very good. Nearby parking was no problem (6pm on a Thursday).
C M . 2023-05-07
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Excellent service and delicious food
Eileen Harkins . 2023-04-19
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Absolutely First Class food. Purchased a takeaway for 3 of us and it was out of this world. Best Indian food I've ever tasted. I can't recommend this restaurant enough.
380brendans . 2023-04-12
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Dinner on a Sunday evening, really excellent food, wine list is well labelled for vegetarians/vegans which saves a lot of googling; attentive but unintrusive service. Highly recommend.
Gavin Roughley . 2023-04-03
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Recommended by a friend to try this place. Spent £82.00 for 5 curry dishes with 2 pakora and 3 nan breads. Was expecting great things but I'm afraid the curry dishes were nothing to write home about. Most of the pakora went in the bin as it was obviously overcooked. The nicest thing was the naan bread. Won't be returning!
UKGuest1801 . 2023-03-11
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Tried this place for takeaway for the family..on friends recommendations but was not impressed Very bland and very expensive compared to other at alot less costs.. it was ok not the worst I've tried probably go back to Madras cottage ...
James H . 2023-03-11
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Visited on a quiet Thursday night and was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food. The Nokodari was beautiful. Just the right amount of heat and a huge portion. Grilled chicken came out sizzling on the bone and was also seasoned well. Staff were friendly and attentive and prices are fair. A really nice, no nonsense restaurant
thefirstcut . 2023-02-10
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Not been for a few years but was pleasantly surprised sat at the window which was a bit cold but couldn’t fault the food it was delicious service was a bit slow but will go back
Q3649LOcarolw . 2023-02-07
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Haven't been to the Nakador in a few years as I've moved home,so due to a birthday we decided to try it out again. Baring in mind this is my favourite Indian, I was hoping after a few years away that it was still great.Well I wasn't dissapointed..... Food was totally outstanding,fresh and full of flavour, and perfect size portions The ambience was lovely and the staff were 2nd to none great great dining experiance and for me il not be leaving it long to return. STILL THE KING OF INDIANS
J6786NVbarryr . 2023-02-07
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Always so so tasty wee bit expensive
Andrea Mcintosh . 2023-02-04
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Food superb ! Well worth the travel from udddingston each week !
Gerald Burns . 2023-01-31
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Had a lovely evening with friends. Thoroughly enjoyed my meal. Nice ambience. Staff attentive.
Morag Lauder . 2023-01-22
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Food excellent, staff excellent
Alexander Lavery . 2023-01-14
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Highly recommend. Food was excellent and staff were very pleasant.
Margaret Savage . 2023-01-09
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Mushroom rice was unexpectedy spicy.
Brian . 2022-11-20
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11 in total went for nice meal for mums 80th , service was over and above and meals great , will defiantly return.
Gary w . 2022-10-04
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Just too spicy for me, surprised the veggie dishes were so hot I couldn't eat them.
Annina . 2022-09-06
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I can only speak to the take away food, but must say it was delicious. Nicely cooked, full of flavour, well presented and very tasty. I cannot really find fault with the food, good sized portions and very good value for money. Will definitely use again.
Livelane . 2022-08-09
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Excellent food from this place 👌
neil . 2022-08-06
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Seekh starter gets smaller every time.
Jamilah . 2022-07-04
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Foods amazing just wish when they done the poori they given more wraps the one isn’t enough
Brian . 2022-06-12
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I ordered paneer butter masala. The curry was full of sweet/sugar - I was expecting the curry to be a little spicy.
Krishnadas . 2022-05-30
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I really enjoyed the food here today and the staff were lovely. The naans were light and fluffy and the curry and lamb chops were delicious. Nice decor and ambience. It was pretty busy for a Thursday lunchtime, which shows how popular it is
Farrahpalooza . 2022-04-28
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Best scran in Dennistoun by a mile.
Sean . 2022-03-23
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I've been ordering for Nakodar for years, and it's good to see a return to form. There had been a period where their menu on Just Eat lost a lot of my old favourites, but they are back and as good, if not better, than ever. Loads of places have a curry that's basically a korma with green chillies, but few have the East End charm of the 'Des'. Nakodar were one of the first places I tried with paneer pakora and it's still a favourite. The diet might start on Monday, but the extra veg in Nakodari rice makes it a winner in this house no matter how empty the intent to eat better is. It's delicious. The fact that they've upgraded the already good bags to reusable textile ones is just a further treat. Can't wait to order my next curry, but I should probably scoff the leftovers first.
Andrew . 2022-01-15
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food was nice but mushroom pakora wasn't the best i had and it was 15 min late
PAULA . 2022-01-02
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Got a curry here twice this week. Soo good.
Stacey . 2021-12-24
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Best Indian in the East End - they did forget a pakora but were very quick at sending it to us and were so polite when I called to ask. Can’t really fault Nakodar - same quality as sit in and service excellent
Laura . 2021-10-01
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Best Indian in the East End - they did forget a pakora but were very quick at sending it to us and were so polite when I called to ask. Can’t really fault Nakodar - same quality as sit in and service excellent
Laura . 2021-10-01
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Great food from this restaurant but miss some of the old menu food they had before the pandemic hit us hopefully all will get back to normal soon.
neil . 2021-08-20
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Great food from this restaurant but miss some of the old menu food they had before the pandemic hit us hopefully all will get back to normal soon.
neil . 2021-08-19
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This was my second visit to Nakodar Grill and I was pleased to return there. I was with a group of 5 and everyone was impressed with their meal. Mine was delicious. There are appropriate safety restrictions in place to combat COVID.
Alison M . 2021-06-12
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Excellent food and service as always
Claire . 2021-05-20
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Excellent food and service as always
Claire . 2021-05-20
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Was lovley wasn’t too keen on the £3 rice tasted microwaved but that’s just my preference couldn’t fault the rest of it , so a going for another order
Michelle . 2021-05-12
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Was lovley wasn’t too keen on the £3 rice tasted microwaved but that’s just my preference couldn’t fault the rest of it , so a going for another order
Michelle . 2021-05-09
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Another absolutely beautiful meal from Nakodar. We usually eat in but with covid we decided to get a carry out, fantastic service from booking, receiving a txt message letting you know to proceed to the main entrance and getting greeted by a friendly face. Then to get home and the food is as good as in the restaurant. Recommend the best curry around.
dougiekai . 2021-02-26
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Arrived in a jiffy and was delicious!
Colin . 2021-02-21
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Arrived in a jiffy and was delicious!
Colin . 2021-02-20
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The best makhani in Glasgow! Always deliver hot fresh and really tasty food ! Highly recommend it
Yvonne . 2020-11-02
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I regularly eat at Nakodar Grill it is one of my favourite restaurants. Ate there tonight food was its usual high standard. Restaurant was BALTIC two doors lying open constantly it was like sitting in a wind tunnel.
Alison H . 2020-10-02
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Awesome as always definitely one of the best curries in town. Bit disappointed the menu was quite small on just eat however the curries available were top notch.
Douglas . 2020-09-19
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Después de leer todas las críticas fabulosas, teníamos muchas ganas de comer aquí. Nos encantó el aspecto del restaurante desde el exterior y también nos gustó la decoración interior. Pedí tandoori de salmón después de haber visto una buena crítica. Cuando llegó a la fuente chisporroteante, era solo un trozo de salmón con pimientos y no se veía como en un horno tandoori. Los pimientos estaban mal cocidos y ninguno sabía como si hubiera sido tandoor. Además, el plato estaba lleno de líquido. El camarero indio me dijo que era jugo de limón. No sabía a limón y había tanto que se podía sacar con una cuchara. Me ofrecieron algo más, pero en ese momento me rendí. Lo incliné hacia un lado para mostrarle a uno de los otros camareros la cantidad de líquido en la sartén y dijo que no era así como se veía normalmente. Me pregunté si tenían los pimientos almacenados en líquido listos para llevar en el tandoor y el mío había sido chapado y enviado sin ponerlo en el horno tandoori. Vergüenza ya que tenía tantas ganas de probar este restaurante. Este plato tenía 17 y no se quitó nada de la factura. También hacía frío ya que tenían que mantener las dos puertas abiertas de par en par, como nos dijeron, debido al virus corona.
glasgowsundown . 2020-09-17
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Lovely decor, service fantastic and food was delicious, every dish was so tasty
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I am disabled which means I am almost completely blind and I also have some walking issues. However I am very independent and like to do things for myself. On the evening my husband and I visited the restaurant I went to the toilet by myself without any problem when I returned to the table one of the waiters came to our table and whispered in my ear as my husband was ordering some drinks “you madam may have one glass of wine with your dinner and no more, I’ve been watching you” we left straight away and I’m outraged and disgusted by this behaviour. Won’t ever return to this place. Very rud3 and ignorant
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Recommended by our taxi driver we found this by chance and what a find - the food is very fresh, authentic indian with no colourings - absolutely mouth watering delicious and can't wait to go back/ order our next carry out from there. Reasonably priced and friendly , welcoming service. Our new favourite local. Restaurant is quiet ( so feel this is as yet undiscovered!