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My sister went to the Peckham pie & mash on sat 1st june 2024 for take away pies she also got me 2 lots of jeiiied eels, must say only got 5 small pieces of eel & rest was jelley must say had no taste & for £4.95 each was a disgusting price to pay they should be ashamed of them selves. Mrs Humphries
Patricia H . 2024-06-03
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Still the best pie and mash around. Friendly quick service and great value for money. Well worth a visit
ann c . 2024-01-04
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I love coming to Manze Peckham the pie&mash is excellent the best in London in my opinion im also a fan of the stewed eels the staff at Manze are friendly and greet you with a smile it's my go to place for London grub
raylufc . 2021-08-20
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Best pie n mash in the world, can't beat it! If it's the best in London, it's the best in the world!
P T . 2021-05-04
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I have mine delivered.as I live in Berkshire and they don’t have a pie mash shop.there food is lovely.it’s a excellent service.well packed arrived when stated will be buying again.enjoyed every mouthful
Jean O . 2021-01-28
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We ordered from manze as we couldn't get down to peckham or tower Bridge, we ordered 6 pies 2 double Liquor we added our own mash, it came £28 and we were not disappointed it came in a chilled box in excellent condition. I couldn't wait and had to have a portion straight away so early evening meal lovely, if I get hungry later still got more, I the freezer. I thoroughly enjoyed my pie mash we will be ordering again soon. I've added a price list hope you can read oka.
steveaP782PM . 2020-10-21
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Working in Sarf London it would’ve been rude not to pop back into Manzes for a cheeky double double! All sorted COVID wise, now table service with everything brought to you, but the food and service is still top notch!
lionelh914 . 2020-10-02
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I have Manze of Peckham deliver to me as I live in Norfolk. I was brought up in Peckham and visited Manze at least once a week so was over the moon when I found out they delivered all over the UK. Service is good so is the packing of the order just couldn't imagine not having my fix of pie mash and liquor - it still tastes wonderful. I cannot review the actual restaurant as I did not eat there, I just have home delivery.
Rosemary P . 2020-08-17
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Well the pies were lovely but the size of the mash was not enough for a child’s meal let alone a grown man Disappointed We ordered 2 pies with 1 mash and liquor x 2 £ 7:99 each Not worth the money at Peckham branch back to tower bridge then for us ( we’ll worth the money at tower bridge )
jac3997 . 2020-07-01
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Pie, mash and liquor is one of my favourite meals. I grew up in Peckham, and have been visiting Manze since I was a child, although haven't had it in a while. I decided to get it delivered, which is never as good as eating in, but we are in lock down, and I needed some comfort food. The Liqour and mash were nice, but I found the pies really salty and I didn't like the consistency of the meat.
83kated . 2020-05-23
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What can I say about Manzies that is not sufficiently covered by the 70 mile round trip I took with the members of my clan that could make it. Worth every mile and dodgy driver encountered on the way. Why drive that distance on a Saturday just for food? If i have to explain that, then you have never been there! There are not enough Michelin stars in the galaxy to cover the quality the Pie Mash and liquor served by ladies deserve. This is the real deal, proper food served by great people. It is a bustling,noisy pie shop and full of life and London.Go, order double double if your over 12 stone, soak in the atmosphere and make sure you get plenty of pepper and vinegar on board before the fork hits the mash! Don't miss it.
Colin C . 2020-01-29
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I've been going to Manze In Peckham for over 40 years it's a really enjoyable experience serving traditional pie&mash and Eels.When you go into Manze you take a step back in time to old London the food here is fantastic and the customer service is second to none my pie&mash and Eels were served by Tanya who who always has a smile on her face and always seems pleased to see us this goes for the rest of the ladies to they are a happy bunch im already looking forward to Friday when I go again
raylufc . 2019-10-29
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Been to Deptford but now first visit to Peckham cafe. Plenty of atmosphere and customers. Authentic and hearty. They even have an A board out on the pavement to deal with common misconceptions and explaining just what to expect.
Jannerbloke . 2019-10-16
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I've been eating in and taking away from here for over 40 years...obviously not in the few years it was closed due to fire damage! It's still the best ever pie n mash shop in my opinion - love it!!
Jo Jo J . 2019-10-03
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Pie and mash was brilliant as usual. The exception for today was the pies were freshly cooked today. Lovely, staff were very friendly
harrydobson . 2019-09-26
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Best pies I’ve ever had,the mash saw salty and thick and was topped off with the delicious gravy or liquor.It takes no time for the staff to give it to you.They always spike the mash up like three mountains.The outside of the pies are crunchy and the inside of the pie has lovely soft mince.I highly enjoyed it and I recommend it to everyone so you miss out on this old fashioned place.
Leon S . 2019-09-14
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Really tasty pie and mash here. Flaky pastry and proper potatoes used. Parsley liquor also really good. Lady behind the counter recommended adding pepper and vinegar to the liquor and it really enhanced the flavour. Definitely will be back next time in london.
zt42 . 2019-08-01
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Great value for money. Decent pie. Mash pretty flavourless, crying out for some butter and salt. If they sorted the mash out this would be great
Mollie T . 2019-07-05
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Best pies. Not greasy meat. Very nice friendly staff. Get yourself along to Manze. Traditional London munch.
Francis R . 2019-07-04
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This is by far the best pie and mash shop in the world lovely and clean staff are all so friendly but using it since I was a kid even though I moved away I always come back at least once a week 😃
Joyce H . 2019-06-25
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If you've never tried pie and mash, this is the best place to start. If you've had it before this is the place to get the best. (If you're not in London they do an excellent chilled mail order service to the UK).
Chris-from-Peckham . 2019-06-24
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Tengo que enviarme el mío a Lincs ahora que me he retirado, pero cada vez que estoy en Londres, voy allí, no se puede superar la atmósfera y la comida que echo de menos, estoy a la vuelta de la esquina para comer allí cuando trabajaba en Glengall Rd, pero lo haría. Recomiendo esta tienda a todos los que realmente son 5 *.
Millwalldel . 2019-06-23
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Have been going to Manzes since a little girl with all the family. Wouldn’t go anywhere else. Love the chilled takeaways too, fab being about cook up for Nan now she can’t get there. See you again soon!!
Megan91Lawrence . 2019-06-17
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Manze is by far the best Pie Mash there is. I go here any time i am in London and the fact it can now be delivered is fantastic! Love it here, cannot beat it!!!!!! Great food, great staff!
JoshKilby . 2019-06-08
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best pies I have had in ages, very fresh good quality meat and pastry spot on. Liquor is to die for.
JBS1234567 . 2019-04-15
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Ordenamos en línea y fue entregado. Debido a que no estamos en el área donde se sirve el pastel y el puré, ahora era un lujo que el mensajero nos entregara. Llegó bien embalado al día siguiente entrega. Era tan encantador poder comer pastel y puré otra vez.
506pixie . 2019-04-13
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If your looking for a traditional pie that does the job, this is the place. Going for over 100 years isn’t a bad trademark to have. 8/10.
VOP30 . 2019-01-22
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We have just had a taste of the east end. We moved to minister isle of sheppy. So we missed our pie and mash. We ordered online and received our pie and mash whithin 3 days. We have cooked it with the instructions. And had the best dinner this eve. The pie. The mash. The liquor with a added bit of chilli vinegar was absolutely amazing. The pies came out crispy and just right at the bottom. Actually going to place a order next time for our neighbours Thankyou manzes. Feels like home. X x .
Leyla1420 . 2019-01-11
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Servicio amable (en Sutton) de la señora madura que me sirvió. Tartas bonitas, pasteles de buena calidad, carne de res magra y mi tarta vegetariana (carne de soja) fue buena. La salsa para tartas era de una buena consistencia, no demasiado perejil, puré se podría haber hecho con un poco de crema o un poco más de mantequilla. A 7. 5/10
888naelc . 2018-12-09
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Best pie and mash shop in the country. Always has been always will be. Can't wait to go there again.
seashells45 . 2018-11-14
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Nuestra hija se mudó recientemente cerca y decidimos ir para el almuerzo del viernes. Estamos acostumbrados a Pie n mash en el East End y pensamos que sería de mala educación no darles a nuestros vecinos del sur de Londres la oportunidad de demostrar su valía. ¿Adivina qué? ¿No te decepcionaron?
Orient-fan-101 . 2018-10-19
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No había tenido pastel y puré durante mucho tiempo, ya que no está disponible en la costa sur.
ginnystacey . 2018-10-17
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Tuve mi primera experiencia en una tienda tradicional de pasteles y puré en el sábado. Absolutamente delicioso. comida. Nos ofrecieron unas tartas con costras superiores a mitad de precio, que, como hombre de Yorkshire, ¡no podía decir que no! . Tartas encantadoras, gran porción de puré, licor sabroso. El personal era muy amable.
redfan1971 . 2018-10-05
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Accidentally on purpose walked past on the way back to catch the train at Peckham Rye, to find that people were already queuing up before opening time at 11, so it would’ve been rude not to pop in, wouldn’t it? Had double pie and double mash (with liquor, obviously), tasty stuff as expected, definitely hit the spot! Friendly staff and traditional decor, what’s not to like?
lionelh914 . 2018-09-24
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Visité esta tienda hace unos días. Mi madre estaba enferma y necesitaba llegar a casa. Le pedí al personal que me llamara un taxi y se negaron. Una niña dijo "No vivo aquí". Esa tienda ha estado allí durante años, así que debe saber una o podría haber buscado una. Cuando estaba tratando de ayudar a mi madre, entonces me pareció necesario decirme que estaban cerrando pronto. Gente muy indiferente.
hstratton54 . 2018-08-20
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Double double as usual. Best meatiest pie and perfect liquer. Mash just how I like it. Even a wonky bench could not diminish the enjoyment. really nice staff and good cuppa. park up nearby in Lidl for free.
SimeyWimey . 2018-04-29
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Muy amable personal de servicio. Comí una salsa tradicional de tarta y licor y puré de papa con una taza de té. Costo total 5. 20. No tiene mal valor. He querido probar esto. Yo diría que estuvo bien, nada más o menos. Los pasteles son bastante pequeños con carne picada y mucho puré, la salsa de perejil estaba bien, pero se enfrió demasiado pronto. En los viejos tiempos (20 's, 30' s '70' s, etc.) esto hubiera sido excelente, pero hay muchas mejores alternativas alimenticias que esta en estos días.
fudgegudge . 2018-02-08
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I have wanted to try this for years and I really enjoyed the pie mash and liqueur, we had the stewed eels also but they are very boney so be careful , its very cheap food and very filling.
ncooper130 . 2017-10-11
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Worst pie and mash ever! Tasteless food and not very clean environment. What attracted me to come was that a lot of people used to talk about the pie, but not sure why. Nothing special
707gabrielah . 2017-09-08
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gran ambiente servicio rápido excelente comida tradicional solo dos temas cierran temprano y ahora venden pastel y puré, mal en muchos niveles, allí la sucursal en la carretera del puente de la torre es aún mejor que la tienda de pastel y mash más antigua del mundo
LARRYFLACK . 2017-07-11
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Used to be a regular visitor but since moving to Kent not as regular as I like staff lovely very good with my little boy pies lovely and juicy full of meat b back very soon thanks
Gembleu11 . 2017-06-09
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Lunch today - double pie, single mash, lots of lovely liquor, mug of tea - £6.80. Fantastic value, superb food and terrific, welcoming, friendly staff. Plenty of seating but can get very busy. Traditional London fayre enjoyed in traditional surroundings.
Philip John R . 2017-06-05
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Always liked Pie and Mash tried in several places but always return to Peckham High St to taste the best .Not everybody's food as completely different from normal type restaurants .But 1 2 or 3 Pies, Mash and liquor (not gravy ) followed by stewed eels not nuked but stewed
Kenneth S . 2016-08-29
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Tuve mi primera experiencia de pastel y puré de la otra auténtica semana en Manze en Peckham - antes de que mis tartas eran de la variedad, el puré estaba pukka empujado a través de un ricer y todo estaba cubierto con una salsa espesa, así que preguntamos a qué venía tanto revuelo.
Gary1974 . 2016-08-25
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Traditional Pie and Mash like the good old days. We where served very quickly and really welcomed which was great.
johnmover077 . 2016-07-22
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Una opción para comer en el sur de Londres algo tradicional. Lo que está en las fotos reseña cómo es el lugar. El personal muy amable. Paynde carne puré de papa, salsa gravy y té para beber lo recomendado. Hay opción vegetariana.
Aldo R . 2016-07-11
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Until about a decade or so ago there were three pie’n’mash shops in Peckham and although pie’n’mash has enjoyed a renaissance in recent years only Manze remains. The fact that Manze is still going strong after around a hundred years in business is no coincidence. Among pie’n’mash aficionados the top pie’n’mash shops in quite possibly the whole world are Manze (both the Peckham and Bermondsey branches) and Arments which is also in South East London. The menu at Manze is of course very limited. I always opt for two vegetarian pies (made from soya, for which I have to wait around 5 minutes) with mash and liquor with a can of diet coke. Also available is gravy in lieu of liquor and both stewed and jellied eels. I’ve tried both the stewed eels (not a particularly filling meal) and the jellied eels which are of course an acquired taste but rest be assured the jellied eels served at Manze are fresh rather than the nasty pre-packaged variety that you might find at seasides and funfairs etc. The eating area is as simple as it needs to be – communal tables and benches amongst green tiled walls with some local historical pictures. Nobody’s complaining though, the resolutely working class (and below) clientele can’t get enough of it and on Saturday match days when Millwall are playing at home there’s a special expectant buzz about the place. Admittedly the quality of the mash and liquor can vary from visit to visit (although the pies seem to be quite consistent) and if you don’t like this type of food then a trip to Manze probably won’t change your opinion but on the other hand it becomes strangely addictive. The only real negative I have about the place is the limited opening hours. Peckham may well have welcomed many new fantastic restaurants and cafés in recent years but Manze remains the quintessential authentic SE15 dining experience.
Andeel L . 2016-06-01
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De la purée et un pie à la viande avec une sauce verte crémeuse et une boisson froide pour 5 pounds! Service au bar très rapide
Steph1234321 . 2016-05-07
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forse l'unico vero locale dove servono cucina tradizionale Inglese del quartiere, il piatto è un tortino salato ripieno di carne di manzo macinata, servito con un purè di patate veramente ottimo, attenzione alla salsa verde al prezzemolo , non è male ma la consistenza è un pò strana (se ho capito bene cè anche un brodo di anguilla)
luke67_2015 . 2016-03-01
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I moved from my birthplace of South London many years ago. I was born during a time when us kids could travel all over the City without our parents and come to no harm. I didn't realise until yesterday how much pie n mash links me to who I am. The Londoners I was amongst yesterday are kind, proud, happy to help, talk to strangers about anything at anytime and funny to their bones. I was home.I hadn't eaten pie n mash for years and my 'double pie mash n liquor' didn't touch the sides. If you are visiting London, you haven't visited London if you haven't had pie n mash!! I'm sorry, but you haven't!!You can take away any amount of pies, mash and liquor and freeze them.Thank you for the best meal I've eaten this year, for restoring me and for showing me that It's not wrong to just chat and laugh with friends you have yet to make.
Cally1900 . 2015-12-20
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I visited this restaurant out of interest following it being highlighted in a “Who Do You Think You Are?” programme that rekindled my fascination in going somewhere that I could try authentic Cockney cuisine and eels in particular.1st impressions were a bit contradictory in that staff were outside the door providing a barrier while they were smoking cigarettes and the vintage interior was intriguing with tiled walls, benches and wooden seating.“Hello my darling” was the greeting which I had not heard since Charlie Drake used it as his byline in the early days of television. “Pie, liquor and mash” was offered and accepted. The pie was all crust and it’s filling a lukewarm bath of gravy with few pieces of meat to be found; the mash was served in Dockers portions and had the consistency of set wallpaper paste while the liquor was a fairly tasteless and uninspiring complement. I didn’t go looking for the long desired eels.
Nicky S . 2015-12-05
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Old London Pie & Mash shop. It tastes great and is a must to visit.The Pie is basic but so tasty. The surroundings are fantastic, bench seating and tiled walls.Get yourself along
Kevin H . 2015-11-11
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this is a review for the tower bridge road manze as the map on here seems wrong !. As a londoner thats moved to kent i miss pie & mash most days and have yet to find anything close to this anywhere else.Food is just fab ,service is fast and friendly and the place was busy with locals.If you have never tried traditional pie & mash you will be spoilt if you eat here and it wont taste the same anywhere else !.Give it a go.
michKent . 2015-09-14
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My mother has led away from London for so many years and has one love which cannot be replicated anywhere. Pie and mash! We boarded our train full of excitement, relishing the memory of the taste of this wonderful London dish. We even made the taxi driver salivate at the thought of where he was dropping us off! We were not disappointed and savoured every mouthful. Okay so it's basic fare, pie,mash and that liquor. No matter how hard I have tried over the years to make my own, it never tastes the same. My mother couldn't speak as she savoured every mouthful. Lovely day out and lovely memories of seeing my mother enjoying her food.
sandy_constable . 2015-08-23
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I am from South London, and wanted pie and mash. I will return to my home in Australia and replicate the taste and texture.
Michael A . 2015-07-22
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Another visit to Manze Tower Bridge Road by the 'Pie & Mash Posse' (5 blokes who enjoy their food) on Wednesday 15 July.Food excellent as always.2 of us were late but staff remained open as they knew we were on the way.Looking forward to next visit!
AlanD1948 . 2015-07-16
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Wonderful pie and mash. They make vegetarian pies as well as meat which are lovely and it's nice you can feel part of the tradition. Traditional decor which is lovely. My kids love too. You must visit
rosysnozzy . 2015-07-05
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Let me put my cards on the table, I love pie & mash and I've eaten in just about every pie & mash shop in London and a fair few beyond. I was out with my 6 month old son, intending to visit A.Cookes on the Goldhawk Road (regrettably closing down very soon), but the traffic was playing havoc with the buses. As I was in the London Bridge area I thought I'd pay a visit to Manzes down Tower Bridge Road. I arrived just at the end of the lunch time rush as they were preparing to close, but there was just enough time to sit down to eatHad my usual 3 pies, double mash & liquor. I've gotta say I was quite disappointed. The portions of mash were huge, (perhaps as they were about to close for the day), but very dry. The liquor was extremely thick and lacked any sort of flavour.Only the pies saved the day, something for which Manzes is rarely bettered. I've eaten here often in the past, but there are better on offer nearer my Hertfordshire home.
Chris C . 2015-06-25
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Used to love this pie and mash. But i find the best pie and mash shop in all of london is Millers pie and mash in nuxley village.. Best by far.
Kellylondon1 . 2015-03-17
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Manze Pie and Mash is a must it has been there many, many years its a must try if you want to experience true London grub, it is also ok for veggies cause they do a great version of there meat pies for veggies to try.
Lisa M . 2015-03-04
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Just have to review what I consider to be THE best pie and mash ever!! Being a born and bred Londoner who's sadly relocated I've struggled on many an occasion to suppress the urge to jump on a train for my pie, mash and eels.... On the rare times I'm back 'home' I try to have this delectable dish as often as possible...and have been known to have it twice in the same day....resulting in a somewhat queasy and long train journey home. Imagine my joy when I was advised that Manzes do a HOME DELIVERY SERVICE!! My depression is no more....I've tried and highly recommend this amazing gift from the Gods (which lets face it unless you're a Londoner you just wouldn't get it!?) and the clever people do exactly what it says on the box. It's reliable, reasonably priced, superbly packaged and just tastes perfect. Happy Days are here again. Well twice a month anyway. Cheers chaps!! Keep up the good work. Sending big hugs and much love for this ❤️❤️❤️
JEJ1944 . 2015-02-24
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This place is a throwback to a simpler time. The pie is pie. Don't even think of asking what's in the pie (though Sweeney Todd fans will like the fact that there's a barber shop two doors down). Don't even ask what's in the mash - it's just mash. It even comes with liquor, an (alcohol-free) parsley infused green gloop. The restaurant is decorated with white and green tiles and a plaque on the wall announces that it has been in business since 1902. This food definitely won't get foodies raving - it is pretty much as basic as it gets but this is its beauty. Pie mash and liquor is an East End delicacy - in a city that is swamped with foods from every corner of the planet, this feels like the last bastion of London's own food. And when you compare it to the anodyne Itsus, Eats and Leons a stone's throw away, there is no comparison. Manze is real and everyone should eat there at least once. Oh, and bring cash!
mightyshepherd . 2015-02-06
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Ok so your having a day in the city London enjoying the walking and the sights hmm, feeling a little hungry any where near the Tower bridge right take a stroll down Tower bridge road heading south and keep walking until you came to a parade of shop's on your right hand side you will see Manze.Manze is the place to get the original Pie and Mash and parsley sauce liquor, there is nothing fancy here so don't expect the plush look but then this is the real London deal, when i arrived they were waiting outside, and queuing but not long to wait and i was in, and sat down to eat well have to say more than worth the wait, the food was spot on real London grub and at just over three pounds English sterling you could not get better, the place was buzzing and i was lucky to sit next to a real london family, and we all had a great laugh and enjoyed the grub, at over 100 year the Manze pie and mash is as strong as ever and made me feel proud to eat and meet in the city that never sleep, so walk, talk, meet, eat and most of all enjoy London.
CameraMan620 . 2015-01-27
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What a fantastic experience and great food served in a true typical London fashion if you are looking for bells and whistles this is not for you but if you really want a old style English fare then a must - the pie and "liquor" is just fantastic at a little vinegar and not even a 3 star Michelin could match..! This is Londoners food at the BEST !! 5*
GTR19 . 2014-10-11
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Always a popular family take away, we have recently taken cousins from Australia and ate in, the meal was enjoyed by us all.
Gordy_Tuck . 2014-10-05
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Still going strong ,and good for them, so many pie shops have have bit the dust,and whats left, some are just going through the motions, but not here, its still the same as when i was a kid,great pies super soft mash, no lumps, and great tasty liquor, just as it should be, well done manze, please don't let it slip ,see you again soon.
mike j . 2014-09-04
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This is not fine dining- this is pie and mash with a liquor (parsley) green sauce. You can have 1 pie , 2 pies up to 5 pies- more if you really want, all served with strong tea. The seating is shared benches. This place hasn't thankfully changed since the last time I visited 9 years ago, the only acknowledgement to modern times you can follow on twitter. The conversations amongst the locals hark back to times when women beat each other up to sort out differences of opinion- classic
395Andy_R . 2014-02-22
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Manzes pies are THE PIE of all pies, delicious comfort food, piping hot pies with a good round of mash n liquor, friendly staff and a great value place to go and eat. You can purchase the pies to take away or mail order to anywhere in the country. My mums friend in Devon gets them delivered as she used to live in London and like myself is a loyal devotee! Yummy food that will make your tunny happy and at a reasonable price. Merchandise can be purchased in the shop.
gymrachel . 2014-01-25
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On a visit to see my daughter who lives in south east London decided to do a when in Rome bit so went here. It is in a great location with a street market outside, inside takes you back over the years it has been there. Loved the food still don't get parsley sauce with pie but it works. The ladies were very nice and helpful if they are reading this we found Elia Street and a great pub the Charles Lamb.
iantoes . 2012-03-04
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