GastroRanking-logo
whatsappWhatsapp
phoneCalldesktopWebsite
menuMenu
bookingBooking
4.3

Based on 501 opinions finded in 1 websites

site_photo4

Nº 184 in 479 in East Hertfordshire

CUSTOMERS TALK ABOUT DISHES WITH..roastchickenbeautiful
Score
OpinionsNoteGoogle5014.3

comment_iconOpinions

Absolutely wonderful pub with 10/10 staff, food is brilliant with fantastic management from Darcey. Recommend highly.

site_logo

Amber Moylan . 2024-10-05

MORE AT Google

Nice pub, friendly staff, big garden, ample parking.

site_logo

James Wilkinson . 2024-09-08

MORE AT Google

Such fab staff with beaming smiles and a genuine warm welcome and attentiveness. Food is fab, well presented and great quality. Amazing desserts too. None of your frozen toot here!!

site_logo

Fraser Russell . 2024-09-08

MORE AT Google

Lovely lunch at a very reasonable price. I had the open Steak sandwich and the Steak was cooked to perfection! Will definitely be visiting again.

site_logo

K G . 2024-08-28

MORE AT Google

For the second time in two visits the beer garden is littered in dog faeces. I informed the waitress who snorted “I’m too busy to pick it up” and left it! There was a party with a few babies and the mothers had to pick it up to prevent the infants from crawling through it. Disgusting! The owner has a large husky/german shepherd and I suspect he lets the dog use the garden as a toilet.

site_logo

Stephen Hyde . 2024-08-17

MORE AT Google

Have been on the ups and downs with this lovely pub, and this is without doubt the best food I’ve eaten here in 14 years! Lovely new decor, menu and staff. Check out the newest reviews, ignore the old ones. So happy to have you on our doorstep!

site_logo

Brett Cahill . 2024-07-29

MORE AT Google

We had a family gathering here... The buffet lunch was excellent, and you could here people commenting on how good it was - especially the pork bites (much like ribs but boneless pieces). Staff were helpful, the garden room and garden were well laid out and comfortable. Would definitely book again!

site_logo

GlimpseMaster . 2024-07-26

MORE AT Google

Only one bar person for a funeral The food was slow at coming out. Overcharge and overrated Beautiful pub and garden

site_logo

Carole Batchelor . 2024-07-25

MORE AT Google

Lovely meal of two types of pie, well filled, cooked and presented. There is a contridiction in the voucher with two dates one of which had already passed. This caused Dan an issue when we tried to pay after the meal. Thankfully, Dan sorted it for us.

site_logo

Francis Jones . 2024-07-17

MORE AT Google

Beautiful food and amazing service Keep up the good work Jay and Rihanna and of course their amazing team 🌟

site_logo

Jodie Godding . 2024-06-23

MORE AT Google

Went for the gluten free fish and chips but only bar food served on Wednesday nights because of the pub quiz. What I had was nice though. Good chips. Limited gluten free options.

site_logo

Susie Jenkins . 2024-06-07

MORE AT Google

A fantastic service from the manager, Jay, with excellent food. He engaged really well with my kids and when writing on the booking that it was for my Dad’s birthday, a brownie with a candle was brought out which was unexpected. A lovely experience for us all.

site_logo

Rich Ashdown . 2024-06-01

MORE AT Google

Sad day a wake party here. The 2 girl staff were excellent and the food very good. Loved it

site_logo

michael ingrey . 2024-05-28

MORE AT Google

Excellent food, very polite and friendly staff, good prices.

site_logo

Markos . 2024-05-12

MORE AT Google

Nice village pub with modern interior and spacious garden. Food and drinks priced as expected and good quality. Service very quick and friendly!

site_logo

Matt Ward . 2024-05-12

MORE AT Google

What a great place... The very well stocked wine store with the glass viewing window is a nice addition to the already Beautiful decor. This is a very homely pub with extending beer garden... Great place for the kids to play. Keira and Dan looked after me during my visit, both very friendly and helpful The college arms looks great and well worth a visit. 😎

site_logo

Damian aka Evo. . 2024-05-07

MORE AT Google

Great place to visit..Great food and friendly service.

site_logo

iain white . 2024-04-04

MORE AT Google

Wonderful venue for families, couples to eat, or for a drink. The food was divine, and the service was friendly and attentive. I had my granddaughter with me and they were so lovely with her. The children's menu is amazing, with huge portions. For us, the adults, the menu was varied and delicious. They have a garden seating area for warmer weather.

site_logo

Sandy Henderson . 2024-04-01

MORE AT Google

Mothers day lunch no food hour wait people sending food back total mess felt bad for staff

site_logo

Elliot Smith . 2024-03-10

MORE AT Google

Had a table booked for 4pm, arrived at 3.50, didn’t get seated until 4.35, wasn’t until we complained did they bother to rush around, not a member of staff came over to say sorry for the delay and get we get you some drinks. Food was nice.

site_logo

Nicola Wilkinson . 2024-03-10

MORE AT Google

One of the best places I've been for food and Im a chef myself, prawns and crab for starters was absolutely amazing and the burgers for mains was insanely good and the staff where so lovely and prices are good also would recommend to anyone

site_logo

Tye R . 2024-03-08

MORE AT Google

Really nice setup inside, incl comfortable bar seating. Good of selection of beers, and also appears to have a decent wine list.

site_logo

AJ C . 2024-03-05

MORE AT Google

It's a great pub with lovely food but the staff really make it something special. Amber looked after us and despite being busy had a beaming smile and was so friendly. Super place.

site_logo

Jo Glass . 2024-03-03

MORE AT Google

What a great place. We had a private dinner function there for 35 people. Food was great and delivered with a smile. The staff are incredible, and gave a superb evening. Amber, who looked after us went above and beyond to make sure everything was spot on. Thank you

site_logo

Nicolette Salih . 2024-02-26

MORE AT Google

Visited on Friday after work for a doggie date and tried to sit in the garden. The garden is completely unusable as it is full of dog poo - i counted 47 mounds of poo some of it so old it had mould growing on it. I trod in some as did my dog, my mate and his dog. Mentioned it to the staff and they fed me some nonsense about people letting themselves in via the back and letting their dogs go to the toilet - all the poo is the same shape and large so clearly coming from one dog. There is a large husky-type dog at then property and they clearly let it use the garden as a latrine. Don't lie to customers and don't use your garden, in which children play in, as a dog toilet.

site_logo

Adam Gammack . 2024-02-03

MORE AT Google

We were in the back room and it was a lovely room but really cold had to put costs on..having said that the service and food were great

site_logo

Janette Jones . 2024-01-23

MORE AT Google

Lovely pub. Came for Sunday lunch. Menu ranged from £17 to £19 for standard roasts and veggy options with with some other more exotic dishes available. Super friendly staff who were very attentive and charming. Sadly let down for me by overcooked schnitzel that was overcooked and dry. Partners chicken roast was much better. Would give it another go as probably a one off

site_logo

Jolyon Roe . 2024-01-14

MORE AT Google

Great place to spend New Year's Eve.

site_logo

Dave Bell . 2024-01-13

MORE AT Google

Live in the village and have not been to the College Arms for a long time. Went a lunchtime and sat in the bar as we had two dogs. Chose from the lunch menu 6 orders all very much enjoyed. There were a few people when we first got there (lunch time and day before new year) started to get busy as we left. Good atmosphere, nice decor and friendly staff. Will definitely go back and try out the main menu very soon

site_logo

Philip Morris . 2023-12-30

MORE AT Google

Enjoyed a family gathering here. Food and drinks were promptly served and the menu is varied and classic. I enjoy a decent English pint and this also came up well.

site_logo

Si Doughty . 2023-12-17

MORE AT Google

Amazing food. Shout out to the pork belly bites on the sharing board. Fantastic 👏 thank you College Arms. See you soon. X

site_logo

Claire Bowden . 2023-11-26

MORE AT Google

My veggie wellington and the frickles was really delicious

site_logo

Paula Davie . 2023-11-12

MORE AT Google

Four of us came here for my Birthday dinner last week. The food was amazing! I had the French Onion soup to start and the chicken & ham hock pie for main. It was really nice, the pie was handmade and tasted so good! Service was good, we didn’t need much but the girls were quick to check on us and the food and offer more drinks when needed. Thank you for a great birthday dinner! 😊 would definitely return!

site_logo

Emily Challis . 2023-11-07

MORE AT Google

Horrendous menager Asked him were the table was and he was just being rude to everyone No suprise if he was drunk

site_logo

Altin Balla . 2023-11-05

MORE AT Google

Jay and the team looked after our party brilliantly! The food was excellent and enjoyed by our guests aged 2 to 95! We will definitely be back again! FIVE stars all round.

site_logo

Richard Rooke . 2023-10-06

MORE AT Google

Really enjoyed meal and crumble was the best ever!"

site_logo

Peter Hall . 2023-10-01

MORE AT Google

Lovely food, quick service, good prices. Clean, tidy and nicely decorated. Plenty of seating in and out.

site_logo

Laura Collier . 2023-09-30

MORE AT Google

Lovely garden room for big family get togethers. Great service and staff

site_logo

Sam Hart . 2023-09-25

MORE AT Google

Held the wake here after my mums funeral. The team were great as was the food.

site_logo

Dan H . 2023-09-02

MORE AT Google

Large glass of white wine and a pint of Amstel's larger £17.50 😕

site_logo

Jason Gardiner . 2023-09-02

MORE AT Google

Very busy so food and service suffered

site_logo

Suewoo 52 . 2023-08-26

MORE AT Google

The menu was not as advertised on-line and more expensive. The quality and size of the meals did not meet the price charged. Service charge also automatically applied. Would not go again.

site_logo

Catherine Chapman . 2023-08-26

MORE AT Google

Popped in for a quick drink whilst on a long walk. Great staff.

site_logo

Jon Green . 2023-08-23

MORE AT Google

The Sunday lunch was a bit more school dinners than the pictures imply. We sat in the garden which is large but characterless. There was bird poo on all the tables and a giant dog poo in the grass. The staff at least cleared that up! It’s a regular pub serving standard but overpriced food. Nice for a drink but wouldn’t eat there again

site_logo

Hugo Adams . 2023-08-23

MORE AT Google

Nice food. A little pricey though.

site_logo

Doreen Bossis . 2023-08-21

MORE AT Google

We had our grandsons first birthday party and thanks to the lovely staff we had a fantastic time! Service and food was perfect for the occasion

site_logo

Stuart Corben . 2023-08-19

MORE AT Google

Excellent food for a good price. Friendly staff. Sit comfortably outside or inside. Nice beers on tap. Plenty of parking.

site_logo

Maikel Wagelmans . 2023-08-19

MORE AT Google

Accompanied partner to family friends send off. The accommodated party beautifully, with both separate space and access to garden. Food was lovely nice atmosphere. The staff managed to be polite friendly and helpful without being intrusive. Lovely.

site_logo

Heather “Hev” Proudlove . 2023-08-18

MORE AT Google

Very friendly service. Nice relaxed atmosphere. Good food

site_logo

john coles . 2023-08-14

MORE AT Google

This is a beautiful venue. A real pleasure to visit. This was the chosen venue of my dearly departed good friend, who's family had pre-paid the Bar Bill. The College Arms, was/is the correct venue for such an occasion. Happy events too of course!

site_logo

John Adams . 2023-08-11

MORE AT Google

Excellent meal and service despite large kids party in garden

site_logo

Roy Smith . 2023-07-29

MORE AT Google

Party of 8, food came out in dribs & drabs. Mentioned at the end of the meal that 1 item was over cooked, no apology just told we should have spoken up when asked if all ok, which happened very quickly after all meal delivery. Customer seems to be always wrong attitude.

site_logo

Louise Bye . 2023-07-25

MORE AT Google

Our waiter Dan was very helpful and accommodating during our visit, with Jake in the kitchen providing excellent food as usual.

site_logo

Sam Lawford . 2023-07-15

MORE AT Google

Food was superb the kids had a roast , I had the king and crab linguine. Superb !!

site_logo

markus thompson . 2023-07-09

MORE AT Google

Great food. Really nice environment.

site_logo

Peter Moylan . 2023-06-26

MORE AT Google

I visited here as part of a funeral mermorial. The parking was an issue, small car park. The facilities were modern and clean. I can imagine it would be under normal circumstances a very nice watering hole

site_logo

Maureen Aris . 2023-06-25

MORE AT Google

Went here for leaving drinks . Sat in the beer garden . Nice place, had a good buzz about the place . I would definitely go back .

site_logo

stephen kirby . 2023-06-24

MORE AT Google

Went for Father's Day. Had such a lovely lunch. I had booked it a few weeks ago and asked for the the little room between the bar and restaurant as it's very cosy and feels like your in someone's home (just the one table that fits 3). My daughter had the burger and Fries, followed by 3 scoops of ice cream. Very good value and big portions. I had the butternut squash wellington roast and my husband had the pork belly. We both cleared our plates, it was delicious. Big portions too but managed a pudding. I had salted caramel profiteroles and my husband had the cherry and coconut ice cream sundae. Staff were very attentive even though it was busy. Would recommend coming here!

site_logo

Lucy Sophocleous . 2023-06-18

MORE AT Google

We went today. Staff extremely polite. Nice selection of good quality wine. We ordered chicken meal with roast. Chicken was very good unfortunately the vegetables were abysmal green beans were stale and older than me. I couldn’t believe a chef would think them acceptable to put on the plate. In fact the rest of the veg was so sparse on the plate it was hard to find the slithers of red cabbage and leeks. The roast potatoes were frozen. Apple crumble was very nice. Such a shame as this pub could be a gold mine if they just upped the quality of some of the food. Speaking to other diners they had said the same and had complained in the past and yet nothing has changed.

site_logo

Jennifer Blyth . 2023-06-04

MORE AT Google

Love the staff always v friendly

site_logo

Chris Pugh . 2023-05-30

MORE AT Google

Beautiful meal, great hospitality and lovely place. Highly recommended. Thank you!

site_logo

Clare Sharples . 2023-05-25

MORE AT Google

Very very good staff working in there, especially the lovely girl behind the bar serving us top drinks all night long (Brooke fearey)

site_logo

Mariella Osmand . 2023-05-21

MORE AT Google

Food was good, service was excellent

site_logo

Elizabeth Edwards . 2023-05-20

MORE AT Google

Worst ever ploughmans I've ever had would Never recommend or return looks at pics online of menu before travelled all the way there and was nt at all like it showed now wish I'd taken a pic to post

site_logo

Lily Gallagher . 2023-05-20

MORE AT Google

Went for lunch with my Dad. The menu reads really nice but what is delivered is not. Katsu burger is a reformed chicken patty which is pretty disgusting and not a £16 ingredient Chicken schnitzel was batted too thin and burned in places Skin on fries had lost their skin and were not skin on fries they were bog standard cheap chips I just wish that if a restaurant cannot deliver what is described on the menu they tell you in advance so you have the choice to change your mind Communication is King 👑

site_logo

Billy Rich . 2023-04-25

MORE AT Google

Good for Sunday lunch roast. Plentiful size portion and good value too.

site_logo

S Leigh Myers . 2023-04-23

MORE AT Google

Brilliant service, fabulous food lovely atmosphere. Went over and above as there was a high chair ready for my granddaughter's doll. Can't wait to eat here again highly recommend. Thankyou

site_logo

Ann Cousins . 2023-03-26

MORE AT Google

Beautiful pub & plenty of parking. The staff were attentive & we didn’t have to wait too long for our order. The roast dinner was quite small considering the price but it was tasty & well cooked. Unfortunately the dessert, Apple & Blackberry flapjack crumble, was tasteless & bland. We ordered 2 at £7 each & we both thought it lacked any flavour. My first visit & unfortunately I wasn’t blown away by the food.

site_logo

Vanessa Mossop . 2023-03-23

MORE AT Google

Good pub and restaurant Service first class

site_logo

andrew james . 2023-03-21

MORE AT Google

Booked for 12:45pm (booking is a must). Dined in the back room, which was very charming. Lovely service from the team. Ordered a roast beef. Tell them how well you like your beef cooked. Otherwise, it will come out well done. Side options are cauliflower cheese and pigs in blankets. Washed it down with a bloody mary and a shiraz. The only criticism I would say is that the vegetables weren't roasted. 8/10 - well done team

site_logo

R G . 2023-03-06

MORE AT Google

Wasn't that happy for the price we paid £53 !! 2 fish and chips 2 crumbles and 2 pints of shandy. Admittedly the food was very nice but the service bad. Was not asked if we enjoyed meal which we waited for over half hour The waitress was more interested talking and just doing bare essentials we asked for pudding she did not take plates away while serving us to much effort !! It was freezing cold in there .Not happy and won't be coming back !!

site_logo

Denise Hannibal . 2023-02-28

MORE AT Google

Great place , good food, good prices. We were a 'problem ' table: 5 adults, 2 children, one gluten intolerant, one one a diet and wanted grilled not pan fried fish. All requirements met. Lovely, helpful staff. Would recommend.

site_logo

Chris and Ann Cousins . 2023-02-28

MORE AT Google

Lunch today was the worst pub lunch I have ever had ! Had a fish pie ( no fish 3 prawns and no potato topping ! ) and burnt crispy cabbage and peas when I complained about burnt vegetables the waitress said she would get freshly done ones only to be replaced by burnt crispy cabbage and peas again ! Took my drink of cider off the bill to compansate , won't be going there again!!!

site_logo

Donna Gener . 2023-02-17

MORE AT Google

Only had some bar food today which was excellent great decor and seating, will be back for a main meal soon

site_logo

KENNETH BOWDEN . 2023-01-21

MORE AT Google

Absolutely remarkable...awesome food, great team engagement, warm fire 🔥.. stunning and bonus is it's local

site_logo

B Groenewald . 2023-01-17

MORE AT Google

Where to start…. The drink that fell over my 18month old We waited 35 minutes for a table, eventually seated in an area with 8 or so empty tables. Then to be served drinks with a beer falling of the waitresses’ tray all over our 18 month old. The waitress apologised but not even to be offered a drink on the house by way of apology, that wouldn’t have gone a miss. Luckily we had a spare change of clothes for him otherwise we would have had to leave. Food came out,roast chicken and a roast beef. The beef was two thin small slices and chicken under cooked. The bill at the end had no reflection of any reduction for the fact my son was soaked in beer. All in all a negative experience and will not be returning.

site_logo

Justin Louis . 2023-01-16

MORE AT Google

First time visit with Jackie, had a nice meal served in a reasonable time. Rihanna was very welcoming and polite. Will come here again. Steeplejack Tom.

site_logo

Tom Benfield . 2023-01-07

MORE AT Google

Booked in a celebratory Christmas meal at the College Arms with family (14 of us). The food was top notch and the service was excellent, especially considering it was very busy with another large booking in the event room. Highly recommended!

site_logo

Tom Upton . 2023-01-03

MORE AT Google

A very pleasant place, great food and kind waiters. I come here a couple of times a week

site_logo

Eugene Freeman . 2022-12-21

MORE AT Google

Beautiful pub. Lovely staff. Excellent service and great food. Can't fault it at all!

site_logo

Chris Mann . 2022-12-18

MORE AT Google

Great service, and the food was delicious. Decent platefuls of food, and a lovely menu, good value for money. It looked popular when we were there, and all the nooks and crannies made the table spacing very comfortable.

site_logo

Janine . 2022-11-16

MORE AT Google

Dog friendly, which is a blessing this time of year, plus lovely food, and friendly staff just makes it the perfect pub in Hertford Heath.

site_logo

Adam Simmons . 2022-11-07

MORE AT Google

Went for a Sunday roast, beef was nice but came with standard frozen veg and Aunt Bessie’s roast potatoes and Yorkshires. Nothing like the website pictures.

site_logo

Ian Davey . 2022-11-06

MORE AT Google

Only stopped off cos I needed the loo ! Sunday lunchtime, full of diners. Had a quick drink out of politeness and the service was excellent. Good atmosphere and food looked good.

site_logo

Ian Rud . 2022-11-06

MORE AT Google

Great food and live entertainment.

site_logo

Adam Curto . 2022-10-31

MORE AT Google

Food very good, a good choice of drinks, staff also good.

site_logo

tony eagling . 2022-10-30

MORE AT Google

A very long wait for an average lunch. Food hit and miss. Like many eateries it seems staff retention is the problem. Hope they sort it out as previous visits have been more successful.

site_logo

Me . 2022-10-25

MORE AT Google

Friendly pub with good gardens, good food, great place for venue..

site_logo

susan jackson . 2022-09-25

MORE AT Google

Dan was so nice, would come again

site_logo

oli ellis . 2022-09-16

MORE AT Google

The venue itself is very nice and the staff were wonderful. Unfortunately the food wasn't really up to scratch. I ordered a steak, blue - it came out medium rare at best, probably closer to medium. It was a very good piece of steak, but not cooked to how I'd ordered it My partner ordered the linguine. It was extremely over salted (I quite like salty food, but this was beyond what I would have enjoyed) and the king prawns were overcooked and rubbery. We saw another couple refuse their food and leave (I don't know what was wrong with his, but her burger looked crispy!) Hopefully it was maybe just an inexperienced chef - maybe their regular was off sick or something. I don't think we'll be going back though.

site_logo

Che Coxshall . 2022-08-30

MORE AT Google

Excellent service and good food

site_logo

Jackie Kidd . 2022-08-24

MORE AT Google

Unusual pub in that it was divided into different areas based around 1 bar. Very much a "diners" pub with excellent food but still had an array of beers and lagers. Small car park but ample street parking. The garden areas seemed very popular.

site_logo

John Russell . 2022-08-12

MORE AT Google

Great food, a really nice selection of beers on tap, lovely beer garden.

site_logo

Chris Stevenson . 2022-07-14

MORE AT Google

Beautiful gardens and great food too

site_logo

Annie Cordell . 2022-07-12

MORE AT Google

Roast dinner was disappointing but the pork belly starter was good.

site_logo

Paige-Ruby Dorman . 2022-07-11

MORE AT Google

I visited today and ordered a club sandwich. It cost £10 and did not come with salad, crisps or chips plus it had the smallest portions of bacon and lettuce and barely no mayonnaise. It was not worth the money and when we mentioned it to the waitress it seemed to go unnoticed. The food here used to be a really high standard but not anymore which is such a shame.

site_logo

Kelly Jenner . 2022-07-06

MORE AT Google

Great food, lots of seating outdoors

site_logo

Tyler Hewstone . 2022-06-25

MORE AT Google

Awful run out of alot of items waitress was lovely 😍 but portions where small over priced won't be returning 😢 sad as it was a birthday meal

site_logo

Julie Gilham . 2022-06-16

MORE AT Google

Always excellent with brilliant staff.

site_logo

Russ . 2022-06-14

MORE AT Google

This place has gone downhill in a spectacular fashion!! It’s brill if you want a nice place with a bit of outdoor space and the team of staff were lovely. However….our meal took over 4hrs with long long waits between course!! When our courses did arrive although they tasted ok they were a total disappointment. You don’t go to a pub for teeny tiny haute cuisine portions, you go for good wholesome food that will fill you up! If something says it comes with veg and potatoes I expect more than 3 half mini potatoes and a few peas alongside more than 4 pieces of meat! Half of us seriously got home and immediately raided the fridge for food as we were so hungry the other half raided a shop on the way home and bought food to eat! Several items were battered/coated to such an extent that the contents where dry n flavourless. Last year I would have raved over this place but I’m sorry guys we won’t be back and it’s nosedived through the floor! The amount we spent on our tiny meal we could have hired our own chef and bought ingredients etc, eaten well and still had money and food to spare! Good luck as I think you’re going to need it but I’m soo hoping it was a glitch and you’ll be able to turn it back around again. Xx

site_logo

Natalie Alker . 2022-05-29

MORE AT Google

Similary restaurants in East of England

restaurant_img
4.3

81 Opinions

location-icon18 The Wash, Hertford, SG14 1PX
outdoor_seating_353593takeaway_353593delivery_353593

Fresh best charcoal grilled kebab

restaurant_img
4.3

812 Opinions

location-icon15-17 Parliament Square
Other cuisines
outdoor_seating_206690takeaway_206690delivery_206690

No pinot. No apple juice. Very disappointing for a sat night

restaurant_img
4.3

106 Opinions

location-icon28 Northgate End, Bishop's Stortford, CM23 2EU, United Kingdom
outdoor_seating_371632takeaway_371632delivery_371632

Cosy and welcoming local pub. Nice fire in the winter.

restaurant_img
4.3

389 Opinions

location-iconPepper Hill, Great Amwell, Ware SG12 9RQ, United Kingdom
outdoor_seating_377666takeaway_377666delivery_377666

I highly recommend. Food is amazing, staff is very helpful. Lovely place!😍

restaurant_img
4.3

165 Opinions

location-icon3 Datchworth Green
Other cuisines
outdoor_seating_199328takeaway_199328delivery_199328

Top notch americano one of the best i have had. Friendly and warm service and charming cozy space with a garden space too.