Cafe Vienna in Kensington and Chelsea - Phone Number, Reservations, Reviews

Honestly, non very attractive from outside but I found amazing good and fresh baklava’s and welcoming personnel. Worth a stop there

tried to call them for days, telephone is off, think the place doesn't exist anymore. Was looking for cakes and other food what I can pick up, no answering machine, no telephone, no response on the email, their website looks frozen

Λέγεται cafe Vienna, η διακόσμηση θυμίζει κάπως Βιένη αλλά το μενού θυμίζει ανατολή. Έχουν βάλει μία τεράστια τηλεόραση που έπαιζε Arabidol και ακούγαμε αραβική μουσική (όχι από την τηλεόραση όμως). Καλά θα ήταν να αποφάσιζαν το στυλ του cafe γιατί έτσι μπερδεύει. Οι τουαλέτες ήταν πολύ βρώμικες και το σέρβις δεν μας ικανοποίησε. Ο καφές όμως ήταν ωραίος και αρωματικός.

As I mentioned this cafe has been changed to Venice cafe and it is great, service quality and everything is amazing,a perfect place to have your morning coffee in Knightsbridge,

Great food, Lebanese style and good price in this area. Decor doesn't really match the food :-) I will be back

We stopped here on our way to the Natural History museum. Glad we did. The coffees were nice but the cakes we're amazing. Will call again next time we're in London.

Oh, guau, qué cambio desde nuestra visita aquí el año pasado! Los nuevos propietarios son libaneses y el nuevo menú es libanés y en inglés, con sólo un toque a la izquierda de los alimentos vienés que solía ser tan delicioso. Los nuevos propietarios deberían haber cambiado el nombre y la decoración para reflejar su nueva identidad. La comida y el servicio estaban bien, nada especial, nada mal. No tienen nada para atraer negocios de regreso. No pienso volver. Muchos otros buenos lugares para comer en el barrio.

Um café italiano servido quente com chantily e acompanhamentos. O tradicional chá inglês que é excelente. amei o local

A nice quality Coffee shop with cakes and snacks - Staff attentive and helpful - realising I was in Chelsea the price was OK and the cakes look and taste good - a safe a nd pleasant visit

This is a good place to enjoy Illy coffee and a very good apple strudel. Prices are reasonable for the area. The place is relaxing although the music gets a bit tiring if you stay too long.

Tuve una experiencia maravillosa aquí. Los postres eran todos muy auténtico postres vienés, desde el Strudel de manzana a la torta de Linzer a la torta de Dobos a la torta de Sacher. El personal también fue muy amable, e incluso conocimos uno de los propietarios, que también es muy agradable. La ubicación es genial y la cafetería está muy limpio y ordenado. He estado aquí hace un año, y espero que la situación sigue siendo la misma excelente nivel de hoy.

Alas this place after a promising beginning went down the plug hole. The website and pictures should be taken off as there is nothing left of the goodies. Not even one star is good enough for this place The service is appalling only the apple strudel still remains, valiantly made by Rudi the wonderful pastry chef who no longer produces anything else there. I hope his talents will be appreciated elsewhere.

We popped for a coffee on a Sunday morning after seeing the Brompton Oratory nearby.Skinny lattes were nice and the strudels and tortes looked delicious but as they were dripping with calories we had to pass up the opportunity *sigh*.Recommended

I had planned a Visit to this Cafe for 1 month due to my love of Vienna. I checked online and it stated it was open 9am so I trecked down just after 11:35am on a Saturday (yesterday). It still wasn't open so I went to visit nearby V&A Museum before heading back when I arrived I was able to walk in but was told by a man we are closed I was somewhat confused when he said come back after Monday I told him I was visiting for the day and He said they would be open later for the next 3 days. I asked him what time he just said later. I found him very rude and unhelpful. Kind of glad the cafe lived up to the numerous bad reviews but this cafe should have had a sign up as I cannot help but think this man was just not ready to serve as milk and delivery was still sat out the front after 10:40am in the morning when we drove past. I am glad I chose another Vienese restaurant in Marlybone Hight Street with very friendly and accommodating staff and the food was lovely. Personally speaking as someone who has visited Vienna on many occassions Cafe Vienna really puts shame to that name and is not worthy. I certainly will be writing a brutal and honest review about this place. I have never experience a bad experience anywhere but here they are just not worthy of your money so I personally think you should shop around for alternative Vienese restaurants.

I can only assume that Vienna cafe is under new ownership. Gone are the friendly and attentive staff from the past. Gone too, are most of the traditional items from their menu. Well, they are still on the menu, however, you cannot get them. Pretty much everything we asked for was not available, but clearly listed on the menu presented to us at our table. Gone is probably the best vegetable soup I have ever eaten, gone is the apple strudel and vanilla ice cream, gone is the ham and cheese croissants...The sandwiches that we settled for were very good, but not exactly we wanted. Service was good. But the "new" Vienna Cafe should consider either updating their menu to reflect items that are actually available to their patrons. Do not waste your time or money at Vienna Cafe.

(MY HUSBAND WROTE THIS ON BEHALF OF BOTH OF US.)In 15/9/2015 my wife and I have visited the “new” Café Vienna.If you imagine green fields with beautiful mountains and amazing chocolate Sacher-torte that capture your heart, think again.If you think that you have a sense of good taste and like cakes, Do NOT EVER go to this café! EVER! And the reasons are:1. After entering the Café a waiter of Tunisian origin has greeted us with very poor English from behind the counter. I would expect an Austrian, German or at least a European person to be instead of him and represent the café called Vienna (at the end their site which is obviously old and left from previous owners, it says “authentic” Vienna café). 2. We were alone in the shop with very dark /gray atmosphere and hip hop music was playing in the background (again, not very “authentic” Viennese atmosphere).3. After choosing the cakes a second waiter shouted to my wife from behind the counter, as if he was selling hotdogs on the street somewhere: “Hey, like some crème with the cake?” Later this man, again with very poor English and also of a Tunisian origin, introduced himself as the owner/son of the owner.4. The Sacher-Torte and Apple-Strudel were low class cakes that tasted as if they were few days old. Anyone with a European family that bakes cakes MUST have tasted better cakes in his life.5. An American girl that entered the café, was already about to take a seat but ran away after seeing the price list, we were again alone in the cafe. Few more people looked inside but when they saw the staff and interior they turned away.6. The young owner of the shop kept trying to flirt with my wife.7. The café next door was packed with people. It had great lightning, unlike the cave next door which we were in, the music was soothing and we also noticed that the American girl was sitting in.8. Prices displayed nowhere to be seen, no menus unlike the Café next door.9. After my wife and I have arrived home we search the internet and found out that the café was sold to Middle Eastern Group in April 2015. But they kept the old site with old pictures of staff, interior, cakes… That was amazing and we are really disappointed we could not be there before April 2015. AVOID!!!!

One of those places where you feel relaxed and comfortable. The presentation of available pastries makes for easy choice. The service here was excellent. The Crowd moved through here with a smooth comforting flow.

The atmosphere faultless, they even will put on Mozart music for you to complete the atmosphere. The cakes are divine and the stuff cannot do enough for you. I go regularly with friends and only hope the neighbouring glitzy cafes with far, far worse cakes are not going to stifle it with syphoning clientele away from Café Vienna

We love Vienna so when we saw this cafe we just had to go in!We had sachertorte and apfel strudel with ice cream, a coffee and a hot chocolate. The cakes were nice enough but the chocolate was just Cadbury instant and the ice cream was Walls and tasted refrozen.The cost was £18 which seemed a lot. The Delaunay does the Viennese cafe much better I think.

A nice quiet place in the company of more expensive establishments in its neighbourhood. The staff were polite and helpful and helped us choose our menus. The place was clean and the atmosphere quiet and decent. Entertained sn old high school friend and his family who were visiting fro America. Between the 5 of us the bill came out as quite reasonable with no hidden surprises. Nice place.

Another dreadful coffee shop catering for a certain type of person. Can only assume these places are here to work as ''fronts'' for something else. There is no way they are self-supporting when they do not even enjoy the benefits of the the restaurants they have replaced.We should ask to have these establishments audited and work out why they are here.

We were surprised when 1 of our meals (there were 4 of us) didn't remotely resemble what the menu said and how it was described to us. If you are lactose intolerant - there is hardly anything in here you can eat.

We had dinner here but it was really a pastry shop. That said, I had a very good goulash with spaetzle. My wife had pork in a mushroom sauce but it did not come with any starch. Overall, the food was well prepared, portions were very small. Probably would recommend this place more for dessert or a light lunch than for dinner.

Good place to stop for coffee or breakfast or tea break, but nothing exceptional. There are three or four places just like it in the same block. Across from V&A.

A oferta londrina é bastante diversificada, assim, se passar por esta casa de lanches, tudo bem dar uma parada e tomar um chá com um pedaço de torta, mas nada que justifique grandes entusiasmos.

Lo que más me gusto de este lugar es la gran variedad en café, para todos los gustos y el mejor es el espreso. Muy recomendable.

We had a very mediocre afternoon cup of tea and slice of okay cake. Cost...£18...I think this very steep even for London. Won't be going back.

Café restaurante localizado a poucos metros da loja de departamentos Harrods, com ambiente simples e tranquilo. Oferece tortas, doces e cafés tradicionais vienenses, além de pratos leves.

Unfortunately putting tons of sugar, butter and cream and putting the price high, does not make a cake Austrian. Neither the entirely Italian staff, which were speaking Italian amongst each other all the time. Even the coffer machine uses capsules and preconfigured options. The waiters are friendly, so 3 stars, but I would expect more from such a place.

My partner and I stopped at Cafe Vienna for an Austrian High Tea after a busy day spent walking around London and had a very enjoyable experience here. The cafe is quaint and cosy with very attentive staff (our server even checked to see if we had any food allergies) and a high tea that is perfectly sized for an afternoon snack stop to refuel ones engines. We were presented with a two tiered tray where we had a selection of four bruschetta-type open sandwiches with a variety of toppings on the bottom tier and a selection of delicious sweet treats on the top tier- the sacher torte was my favourite. We were also offered a glass of Austrian Sekt to accompany our high tea which went down really well. The shop itself smelled delicious and they had a wide variety of sweet treats in their displays which all looked amazing. My only criticism is that the bathroom is unisex with only one stall which I think is a bit awkward. We will definitely visit here again though as we had a wonderful experience.

If you're going to pay almost £7 for a slice of cake you might reasonably expect it to be fresh. When I suggested to the manager that the cake was stale I was told the sacher torte can last up to 10 days. Good to know! I won't be going back.

Four of us stopped here for a light snack just after lunchtime. The menu wasn't extensive (apart from the good range of sweets) and leaned heavily on Austrian/Hungarian food which provided an interesting alternative to "normal" cafes.. Although the sandwiches were quite small, they were very tasty and the bread roll was delicious as was the coffee. I thought the price was quire reasonable too, given the cafe's location.

Freezing cold outside and warm, welcoming inside this lovely smaller café. Delicious but little sandwiches for the price, great pastries await the hungry traveler. Wonderful warm tea and great service otherwise.

Wonderful food, but was very shocked to see foie gras on the menu. The production of this "food" is very cruel (force-feeding the bird till the liver becomes diseased) and is actually illegal in this country. The restaurant should take it off the menu! Until it does, for me the issue overrides everything else.

I went to Cafe Vienna on Saturday. It's a small place with lots of a different cakes and marcepan, which I love. Unfortunately the afternoon tea was not great. Bread was delicious but sandwiches sooo tiny. The cakes were even smaller. I've been to lots of afternoon teas and for the first time I left hungry. Also, there was not enough tea. We just got one cup and that was it. It was all a little bit disorganised. I wouldn't go there again, unless to buu cakes, which unfortunately are not part of the afternoon tea. But at least we spotted a lovely place minutes away from the cafe where we're going to have our afternoon tea next:)

Estávamos passando e chegamos em frente a esse café. Olhei e achei tão agradável e aconchegante que resolvemos entrar! Extremamente bem atendido, uma ótima Sachertorte,que aliás me chamou a atenção,pois estava na vitrine e um delicioso café! Meu marido comeu apfestrudel também ótima!! Vale a pena,adorei! Lucia de POA

My girlfriend is half Austrian so when we saw cafe Vienna we thought we'd pop in and give it a go. To our delight the staff were friendly, very welcoming and the food was amazing! I had the meatballs with sauerkraut and it was absolutely delicious, I would highly recommend this place to anyone around that part of London :)

Dropped in for an expresso and a couple of biscuits. Everything was delicious. Staff was professional. Promise to come back!

sacher eccezionale, servizio celere e gradevoletramezzini gustosissimiprezzi adeguati in rapporto alla qualità

Surprisingly quiet with a pleasant staff. Good coffee, pastries and sandwiches. I really liked being able to pop in anytime and find a seat with it being overcrowded.

This place is a Superb with fantastic selection of cakes (torte). Sacher, Dobos and Linzer torte are absolutely amazing, like in the best patisseries in Vienna or Budapest. Apple strudel is great. My family and I came back almost every evening while in London to enjoy great taste of various cakes and tortes after the dinners.

I went in because when walking in front of the shop I liked the windows! Inside everybody (the staff) was talking in italian so I though it was an italian cafe'. I had a real expresso and a generous slice of Sacher torte, which was very rich and well done. I also thought this was italian too! I speak italian so I was happy chatting with the owner in italian until he told me he was austrian. I was difficult to believe him! Perfect italian accent. Of course, he said, he had lived in Italy too. A very pleasant place with a very warm staff (yes, some of them were real italians!)and lovely Sacher torte.

No Topfen PalatschinkenNo proper Wiener Schnitzel made with veal (chicken is NOT a Wiener Schnitzel.High prices

We were delighted to find this new cafe near our hotel when we were in London last Spring and we were even more delighted during our Christmas visit to learn that the quality has continued. We enjoyed several meals there and look forward to returning, There are many items to recommend, such as the beef goulasch with spaetzle, goulasch soup, vegetable soup, speck dumplings on sauerkraut, any of the yummy pastries, excellent coffee, and sparkling Gruner Veltliner. The room is tiny, but charmingly designed with clean modern lines and touches of the Old World with Klimt reproductions and dark wood counters. Even the white china with the logo is lovely. Not the place for a long lingering dinner, this is a super stop for a good breakfast, lunch, tea, or a sweet and coffee. Everything is well-planned to offer a respite from the bustle outside on Brompton Road. The wait staff is cordial, welcoming, and efficient. Prices are reasonable and there is a wide selection of food, especially for so small a place. The only small fly in the ointment is that the manager typically wears a sweatshirt or bulky sweater with an untucked shirt and looks out of place beside the crisp young women. To keep the elegant tone, surely a plain white dress shirt neatly tucked in would be more appropriate. (This is a tiny point and it may not bother anyone else at all. I also hasten to add that the manager is quite welcoming and accommodating,) This cafe is a real winner and we recommend it highly.

I am going to Salzburg for 5 days before Christmas,and to get in the mood for all the wonderful things to come, thought I would try Cafe Vienna in Brompton Road London.What a fabulous restaurant. The food ( Goulash) and wine (Gruner Veltliner) were amazing.Didn't have room for the amazing cakes on offer, but just had to have some Strudel.Highly recommend this cafe, along with the lovely staff, it was an experience to remember.

We went for the reasonably priced "afternoon tea" options. Coffee or tea with a generous slice of Sacher Torte for £7,90, which can also be served with hot chocolate.Nice atmosphere and friendly staff. They also accept reservations.Please note that we didn't try any of the mains.

We went in for a late breakfast on our Anniversary. Lucky enough to get a table at the window as there was only one other customer in there. We both had a cappuccino I had some toast with jam. This was a rustic loaf (like French bread) and was perfect. My wife had a pan au chocolate, she would have preferred this hot but nevertheless it was very light. Would recommend this outlet.

Having visited cafe vienna thinking we were going to be treated to viennese treats we were very disappointed. Had the kholeph cake which was at least 3 days old. Did not give me a fresh slice from the counter they served me a slice which had been cling filmed from under neath the counter. Very disappointing management who are running the place are Italian they did not give customer service whilst serving customers they were busy chatting to other Italian friends which we hanging around the cafe. Not a good place to have a coffee. 2 coffees and a slice of old cake £10.50. Rip off.

Вкусный кофе и десерты. Хорошая венская кофейня. При желании сходить можно, перекусить и отдохнуть....

We left the Victoria and Albert Museum in search of a bit of lunch and stumbled across this wonderful little cafe. It has the "look and feel" of being on the streets of Vienna. The service was outstanding and the food absolutely reminded me of being in Vienna. We had soups, sandwiches, hot chocolate with wiped cream, and deserts and coffees. The deserts were the highlight ... Fresh Baked Apple Strudel and a Sacher Torte. The menu was expansive and would accommodate lunch, afternoon "tea" dinner or after theater deserts. I will be back...

We ate at Cafe Vienna twice during our stay in London, and on both ocassions, the food was excellent. They have the most delicious vegetable soup that I have ever eaten! It is served with Maggi Wurse, a sauce that really wakes up the flavor. I also highly recommend the ham and cheese croissant. Their dessert selections are not only beautiful to admire from afar, they are also so very, very, yummy. Do yourself a favor and make sure that you try this restaurant...you will not be disappointed.

Un'eccellente sosta a Londra. Qualità dei cibi assolutamente impeccabile...ho assaggiato i primi, i secondi e anche, ovviamente, i dessert. Anche se si chiama caffè Vienna, fortunatamente, la cucina è adattata anche al gusto italiano. Il personale è gentile, premuroso e molto attento alle esigenze dei clienti. Fabio lo gestisce in maniera magistrale. Complimenti!

Such a lovely place! I went for afternoon tea and had the hot chocolate with a slice of Sacher torte and it was just like I had it in Vienna! I would definitely recommend it to everybody.

Me quede tres días en septiembre en Londres, viniendo a desayunar aquí cada uno de ellos. Italianos que han puesto recientemente su negocio, extremadamente amables, capuchino buenísimo, strudel de manzana delicioso. Y muy lindo el ambiente. Buena también la típica torta Sacher de Salzburgo. Merecen lo mejor!

This is a reliable Austrian beverage and food source. It’s amazing the amount of regional beers that they have. Wiener Schnitzel is really good. Typical deserts are also good. The environment perfectly recreates the atmosphere of an Austrian café (it even has Gustav Klimt’s paintings hanging in the wall).

We were staying at Imperial College, just up the road, and looking for evening meals....found this lovely cafe/restaurant and enjoyed our meal so much we went back on our last night. The Sacher Torte was sooooo good! Staff attentive and friendly, prices very reasonable, and the Austrian wine - excellent.

Light breakfast at Cafe Vienna this morning. We had a toasted ham and cheese croissant and the salmon with brown bread and butter. There was a lot of salmon and not much brown bread, but was very tasty. The croissant was was good. Two Americanos were excellent. Friendly, efficient service. We sat outside, as it was a nice day. It is, however, on a fairly busy street. There are lots of tables inside as well. Cute, historic looking place.

We came upon Cafe Vienna after a walk around the V&A.It gives you the impression of an old victorian tea room.We sat outside as it was a nice day.There was a nice selection of hot and cold food on the menu,but we just had a sandwich each and coffee.Very nice crusty brown rolls filled with smoked salmon and cream cheese.Delicious.Price wise very reasonable and an excellent service

After a walk around the V&A, I was flagging and needed a cup of tea and some cake. How lovely to find some really good old fashioned service and a big smile, as well as a wonderful cup of tea and the best bit of cake I've had in years! It looks pricey, but it's worth it!

Outstanding strudel and other pastries, class environment, fair prices. Excellent choice for an afternoon treat or an enticing dessert after a meal in the South Kensington Underground area. A 3 minute walk. The Café Vienna serves other food and ice cream; this reviewer is not familiar with them. You can order from the menu, but recommend surveying the counter, like a mini-museum. Think their Café Americano is better then their Cappuccino.

Not to pricey lunch in a quite expensive district. Nice sandwiches and cakes. Good coffee and tea. You can safely have a snack at the Cafe Vienna without being disappointed.

My husband loves Sacher and we were so lucky to find Cafe Vienna in London. I will tell you right now, we came here on three separate occasions and even got take away on the last visit. It is a gem of a little place, for seating for approx. 16 or so inside and two tables for two just outside. We tried many of the cake slices, but will say right now that the Sacher Torte is a real winner here. It is as close to the real authentic Sacher Torte from Hotel Sacher in Vienna as can be. Perfectly dense and beautiful layer of Apricot preserve. The pastry chef as we found out, is from Austria, so he knows what he is doing!!! I also enjoyed the Goulash soup on one of our visits and it was so well done and the beef was braised beautifully. Of the other cake slices we tried the other one that was as close to the real thing was the Linzer Torte. Thank you for bringing "Austria" to London!!!

We dropped in for Lunch here after visiting the V & A and were charmed by the owner and his staff - enticed with a glass of lovely Austrian Sparking wine. Lunch was simple - reasonably priced and wonderful and the Wine at 15.00 Pounds/bottle was very palatable. But it is the Viennaese cakes including Sacher Torte that are the piece de resitance. We had so much fun here and The owner even waltzed with one of the adjoining table guests- Thank you - The Aussies

my wife and I had lunch here. we live in the neighborhood and thought we would stop in. I had the sausage platter which came with 2 wieners, tangy mustard, horse radish, and a nice crusty roll. my wife had the vegetable soup with nice big chunks of quality veggies and a tasty broth. we also split a pretzel. all for about 15 gbp which isn't bad for this neighborhood and location. afterwards, we had a delicious coffee with creamy warm milk. we sat outside and watched the very very busy scene.the pastries looked incredible and I really have to say that it was a pleasurable lunch. service and staff were friendly and professional.

As a newbie and tourist to London the afternoon tea was quite lovely. Great homemade pastries and friendly service. The service was somewhat questionable and not attentive for the most part. They took the plates almost instantly as you finished. Do not go if you want to relax I suppose. Otherwise great food and cute little spot.

We found this new cafe near our hotel and were tempted in by the beautiful cakes in the window. We pleased to find a lovely lunch menu and enjoyed delicious soups -- goulash soup and vegetable soup with very good breads. The cakes were as good as they looked and the coffee strong and full. Everything was quite good, with elegant little tables and prompt cordial service. They are in a great spot for drop-in trade, right on Brompton Road, and I hope they do well. They deserve to!

Wonderful place for afternoon tea. I ordered a fillo dough Austrian pastry with vanilla cream and fresh berries and it was perfect: melts in your mouth and not too sweet. Looks beautiful as well. Coffee was excellent too. Very good service and location (one of the best areas in London not far from Harrods).

Best sausages and soup, no needs to go to Vienna, because you can find it in London, with a blend of Italian flavor service! I’m often travelling for Business to Vienna, and I have to say, without exaggerating, that I ate for the first time a top quality Austrian food here in London, close to my offices. The excellent quality of all products together with the whole service really is a 5 star experience, made only by Italian and the Viennese born owner. I'm a luxury designer, my name is Angelo Galasso, and all this is so similar to my job! Congratulations! With Cafe' Vienna we reached the top in food's innovation!

Had breakfast of coffee and croissants here a couple of mornings when staying around the corner. They have a commercial Nespresso machine which delivers perfect coffee every cup, so much so we had to pop in to the Nespresso shop nearby to see what it entails. Good atmosphere and very clean.

I was with my friend and we had apple strudel with fresh meant tea and afternoon tea wich including mini cakes and mini austrian sandwiches.All food was excellent, new shop very elegant with very friendly staff.I loved the windows tooI definitely will come back!

Sacher cake is my favourite cake and I was very happy to find this new cafe specialising in Austrian cakes. Friendly and efficient service and nicely designed tooGreat window displays

We came here for breakfast and the food was very good. They serve authentic Austrian pastry, cakes and good coffee. The owner is an Austrian guy and the eastern European waiters are friendly and efficient. All was good but not outstanding.

I hade an enjoyable Lunch here, the food was excellent! The pastries ? Wow, super selection, witch are just irresistible , friendly staff and good service.... Very nice place, I will be back here with friends

As an Austrian I adore Austrian cuisine, but the food at this cafe was appalling. The Frittatensuppe (Austrian Pancake soup) was inedible and came at the same time as the main course. The chicken salad was just average and the Debreziner (Austrian Sausage) were too. The prizes are quite high for what you get, so save your money and eat at one of the many nice restaurants in the area.

Pequeño y chic. Tomamos 2 Apperol Spritz (no fácil en Londres) y seguimos de paseo. Buena atención y precios bajos.

We stumbled upon Café Vienna whilst looking for a nice looking place to enjoy a sandwich. We were offered the last table available and the staff promptly attended to our needs with menus and drinks. One of the staff (or probably the owner) came over to explain that they’d just opened and they hadn’t got their card machine in time – no problem!Our baguettes were delivered in good time and were delicious. The location is in an ideal spot for footfall, but there didn’t seem to be many tables – let’s hope that they can cope.We wish them all the best for the future - they deserve to succeed.