Gourmet House in Sefton

Same as similar reviews, young waiter and waitress extremely rude to me and my children especially the waitress to the point were I nearly walked out. Don’t mind the food, but nothing special, but the drinks every time we go are completely flat cheap drinks. Will definitely not be returning due to the young waitress attitude, and il be surprised if they have any custom left by the time they have finished with the customers… won’t be returning

Phoned and reserved a table for my husband myself and my disabled mother who uses wheelchair. We were only in the door and didn’t have a coat off yet when the waitress who appeared quite rude said to us what drinks do you want? We said we hadn’t made our mains up as we had only entered the restaurant she sarcastically said right okay and walked away she proceeded to clean a table in front of us and I thought after she had done this she would come to us but we heard her sarcastically saying to another waitress they can just wait now I thought this was extremely rude. I also looked online before visiting the restaurant and it clearly stated they take card payments , but on our arrival we were told it was cash only .At this point we had still been waiting a good 10 minutes to be offered drinks. This was when we decided this is just rude and we got up and left. I would not recommend this place or its sarcastic staff to anyone.

Came here yesterday for lunch as we have been coming here for many years it used to be the best, we were disappointed this time food not at the right temperature some was only warm I got the chicken & sweetcorn soup & it had a sweet taste to it , prawns toast was not prawn toast this also had a sweet taste & the texture was strange , although the Sui mei was delicious and the king prawns I feel that the hot lamp should have been on the food & not just the bar Marie it was expensive but there was a lot of choice I doubt we will be returning as there are better around.

This has been our go to Chinese for a few years now. It still offers a good choice of dishes and is very good value but sadly the food is not as good as it used to be. Noodles are gorgeous and the soup was also lovely but a few of the main dishes are not very good, the beef in particular has a very strange taste and texture. For the first time since we've been going, a lot of the food was barely warm let alone hot, probably down to the fact that it's not as busy these days meaning the food is not needing to be replenished as often. Agree with another reviewer, the duck meat and 'prawn? toasts are also now disappointing. Should also point out that, despite confirming card payments were being accepted, when we came to pay it was cash only ? Luckily we scraped enough together but could have been embarrassing. Hopefully the management will read these reviews and see that improvements are needed

I used to frequently visit this place a lot prior to Covid so as we were local we decided to go back. It was awful. Cheap poor quality food, some cold, tasteless meats, strong smelling prawns and the best of a worse deal was a small piece of cheap chocolate cake. Nice staff on hand to very few customers and now I know why. Over £20 each for rubbish - Never again !

Very relaxed atmosphere. Decent food. Decent staff. It is a typical town centre Chinese buffet but that doesn't doesn't mean that it isn't excellent value for money.

I have bin twice to this chinese and both times we have left with bad stomachs, didn't think it was the food the first time but after we went on Saturday, we will not go back again sorry

Met with a surly, gruff “cash only” welcome. Extremely poor service- waited so long for drinks order that we started on the buffet, bit confusing to say the least. Seemed to be 2 staff on duty, one barely awake. Shame really, don’t feel comfortable recommending here at all.

When I first went the food was average. Now there is a sign on the door saying you have to now pay before eating. And Cash only! I will not bother to return!

We went as the reviews were amazing. I rang to book a table and the customer service was shocking. Whilst we were there a staff member was stood up falling asleep. The food was awful, we had one plate each and some ice cream. The prawn toast tasted like chicken and the duck was vile and dry. As soon as we left I vomited, it made me and my boyfriend very ill. I rang to complain and was passed round to 3 different people. I was refused a refund and asked to provide my medical records to confirm it was food poisoning. After complaining for the third time, I was advised a manager would call me back and never. I don’t understand the reviews, the food and customer service was vile.

We loved this place! It definitely is a bit of a retro throwback decor wise but all the nicer for it! The lunchtime buffet on a Thursday was superb- loads of dishes- all hot and fresh and they replenished them as well. I was impressed to see shredded duck and pancakes on a lunchtime deal plus soups and loads of dishes. Delicious beef in black bean sauce, lovely tempura, different rice and three types of noodle dishes includin chicken chow mein. Old school yes but tasty and delicious. Funny when my other half picked up something thinking it was a chicken gougon and it was chicken gizzards- let's just say he didn't try it! The desserts were good too with an ice cream machine plus sauces, loads of jelly, cake, little mousses a chocolate fountain and fresh fruit in the buffet section so nice melon and orange slices etc. At lunchtime with two pints of diet coke it was 28.00 for the two of us which I thought was pretty good. Good service with plates being regularly collected. I would definitely return if I was in Southport.

4 of us ate at the Gourmet House restaurant on Thursday afternoon & I can't understand the negative reviews. All the staff were very friendly & attentive, the plates were hot so u needed a napkin to carry them which is exactly how it should be & all the food was served at the correct temperature. We all enjoyed the food including the variety of puddings. We will certainly be back at the Gourmet House next time we're in Southport & thank u once again for the positive experience.

Food was awful and not worth money. Had to eventually go to bar and ask for our drinks order to be taken. Wont be back.

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS PLACE USE TO BE GREAT. NOW FOOD IS COLD NOT MUCH IN PANS NOT FRESH. TO BE HONETST IT WAS HORRIBLE WILL NOT BE RETURNING HERE NOT GOOD VALUE FOR MONEY.

We were overall satisfied and enjoyed the food however it wasn't very warm. Some options were not clearly labelled so sometimes we didn't know what we were eating.

Not sure if others are over zelous with reviews or we are too honest! Food was poor at best, all the food was obviously mass produced bought in items like spring rolls etc and rest of food was thrown together and looked exceedingly unappetising. When the dishes were running low they scooped it all into the middle of the tray to look like there was more. All food was less than tepid. Staff uninterested and place was dirty. I walked past a dropped sprung roll on the floor at least 6 times and it was still there when we left. At £18 plus drinks each We wished we had gone elsewhere. Very very below average

Honestly, not great. Read the reviews first, many of which were positive but I would disagree. There's a very limited choice of dishes, many of which are not Chinese. If you want a variety of different shapes battered chicken then this is for you. Many dishes weren't labelled or were labelled wrong. I picked of one thing that was labelled as "Chicken Fillet"(I already knew it wasn't, but was curious)...it was a mozzarella stick! Who even wants a mozzarella stick at a Chinese buffet? Many of the dishes were empty and food wasn't replenished quickly enough, despite it being a Saturday night and not very busy. Desserts were ok, but very small. Chocolate fountain looked like it'd seen better days and had hardly any chocolate in it. No drinks menus on the table which was disappointing. Overall, I probably wouldn't return and I wouldn't say it was worth the price.

Delicious food. Very reasonably priced for the amount of yummy food on offer! Practically everything you can think off. Highly recommend xx 😍👍👌

We go regular here but I was surprised when I got to the door last night and for mother's Day the were charging 5 extra per person I thought oh ok may there is a different menu or a free drink for mum, but no nothing In fact some items were missing. Now don't get me wrong we like this place it's a bit of a trek but I didn't think like it it left me with a bad taste in my mouth if you know what I mean. Most places have offers on, I wasn't expecting an offer, but neither was I expecting to be charged 10 extra

I suggested going here for our works Christmas meal as it was a change from our usual three course sit down places. We all agreed that the food was very good, tasty and a good choice of dishes. They keep a close eye on the...

Went with my friend and our 12 year daughter and granddaughter. They charged us full price for the children. They only up to 8 years old classed as children. The food was absolutely appalling, cold and dried up , the rice tasted like it had...

In the area for the day and wanted something at a reasonable price found this place on the net 10.50 per person until 4.00pm most days per adult for buffet dining. Soft drinks small glass 1.90 each. Good service and staff always re filling the...

Had a lovely meal here with family on Saturday, plenty of choice, well cooked and piping hot so all good. The problem came when I went to pay my £155.00 bill and a sign on the bar said cash only. No one mentioned this to...

First time we visited and were very impressed. Fresh tasty food, plenty of choice and the staff were efficient and friendly. The buffet area was being constantly scrumptiously cleaned and restocked and it was reasonably priced. Will definitely be going again.

A fantastic buffet with amazing desserts, not just slices of orange and jelly. Friendly and efficient staff kept the full range of dishes topped up. Couldn’t believe what good value it was for lunch on a Saturday! Would highly recommend.

This is the best Chinese buffet restaurant I have ever been to. Great quality food, efficient staff and decent prices. Will definitely return if back in the area. Plenty of selection and quality meals even through the day when a lot of buffets save items...

This is a nice buffet with a very well thought out selection. All my favourites on the servery and something for everyone of my fussy family. Drinks a reasonable price. Service was friendly and unwanted empty plates removed promptly. A good no nonsense buffet restaurant...

The most missed restaurant during lockdown… the table service offered at lunch times did put me off going in but after 5 it’s help yourself… quite disappointed that customers are ignoring the many signs which state to wear your mask when getting your food… This...

Went there for lunch a couple of times, it was amazing. Staff gave you a menu, you ticked what you wanted, and they brought it to your table. You could have as much starters, main course, and dessert that you wanted. Brilliant, only thing is...

Not long re-opened after Covid. So glad it’s survived the pandemic. Great to see so many customers, so many hand towels, face masks and hand sanitizer Food simply fantastic, especially the king prawns, steak and japanese beef. See you again soon 👍👍

We go here for a family dinner every couple of months, there's a wide range of food - something for everyone. Always fresh and tasty, definitely recommend. Be aware though that it's cash only, there's no card machine.

I called to make a booking and asked their ‘child price’ age and was told it was 12 and under. After eating I was told it was under 8 so myself, my 15 year old, 11 year old and 9 year old were left with...

Came here for my birthday back in May, and I was certainly not disappointed. The staff were highly friendly, the food could not have been better, and the place itself was extremely sanitary indeed.We were especially happy and grateful with the staff when an unfortunate incident of soya sauce being spilt occurred, and they kindly offered to clean it!Will definitely return again.

a great variety of meals to chose from - Sineage for what the meals are could have been better as it is at head height rather than next to the food. food was great, no complaints whatsoever, access to it was easy and staff very...

Very surprised how great this place was! Excellent value for money and food is always fresh and tasty. Plenty of variety. My only issue would be that the cola is often flat.

Good food, nice surroundings and very reasonably priced. Can't beat it for the money! You can park on the street outside for a couple of pounds. Highly recommended.

We visited this restaurant as we wanted something quick but with a choice. We weren’t disappointed. Food in the trays was refilled regularly and was hot and tasty. There was a good choice of food and drinks were reasonably priced. If we lived in the area we would use this place again.

Really enjoyed our visit. Great choice of food. All tasted fresh. My daughter recommends crispy duck pancakes, my son loved all their beef dishes. Good service. Decor a little dated but clean and dishes replenished quickly when running low. Good price for what you get. Will visit again. Only downside was that it was cash only.

We come across this little gem of a Chinese buffet place. All I can say you must try the food it’s lovely. We had no complaints what do ever. If your ever in Southport and you fancy Chinese please try you won’t be disappointed.

Nice place for buffet Chinese food at lunchtime. Price very fair and food is quickly replaced on trays so does not become overcooked.

Went along with my daughters and sorry to say a day later l was ill the food wasn’t warm very bad management disgusting restaurant never eating in there ever again not even if it was free not a chance avoid this place £12.95 there is better restaurants about !

Fried rice very greasy. I noticed hardly anybody was trying the king prawns.They must have known they the cheapest, tasteless and most rubbery available. chicken tasted fishy. sweet and sour chicken like encased in concrete. I could go further but nuff said.

Avoid this place , my daughter made it very clear she had a nut allergy . The manager advised on which dishes she should avoid instead of giving her good advice telling her not to dine there! As a result she was careful and only ate as advised . Seconds later had to be rushed to A&E;! I cannot stress enough this place should be avoided at all costs,

I went into this restaurant with my friend and told the staff about my peanut allergy. I was told which food I could and couldn’t have. Within 5 minutes of eating I had an allergic reaction to the nuts in the food. Which caused a hospital stay. I spoke to the council regarding the food and when he went in to check he tested he food which did have nuts in the sauce. He also said the food hygiene levels in there are very poor with cooked and raw meats kept together. Would not recommend. Even upon going back into the restaurant they didn’t even apologise. They actually had the cheek to say “well you got a free meal” the worst restaurant and service I have ever had. Would not suggest going here.

A lovely chinese restaurant and all you can eat! Very clean and the staff are very friendly and helpful.The food is wonderful and so much choice. The desserts are lovely, especially the chocolate fountain! Keep returning with my husband. I would recommend this restaurant to anyone.

went with my daughter and grandson. The choice of food was good even my fussy grandson found stuff to eat.The choice of food was good and it was all hot and fresh and refilled frequently. A good cheap and cheerful lunch which was very good value for money

Went here for tea and traveled from the Wirral!!

We had been recommended this restaurant by a number of friends and definitely weren't disappointed.

Lunch is £7.95 per head per adult. There is a choice of 2 soups, both lovely and hot. There is crispy duck with pancakes, prawn toast, seaweed etc. , for the main course there is a choice of noodles, rice, vegetables, chicken curry etc. ,and they have desert too. The flavours are great, and the choices are great, if there is one flaw the main courses and plates are not very hot, but for what you are getting and the flavours you can’t complain. I’ll definitely be going back, the staff are lovely too.

I struggled to find anything edible dry chicken dry ribs cold chips this place is definitely NOT for me at all.

We visited this restaurant based on the reviews as I love Chinese food. Unfortunately I was really disappointed with the food on offer. Starters such as prawn toast were just bland, ribs were cold, chicken wings were not on offer on our visit. Prawns had been battered unpeeled which made them inedible. The prawn main course had prawns which were hard and the beef courses were chewy. Chow Mein was not replenished whilst we were there nor was the foo yung. Service however was good and prompt and staff were friendly. Puddings were plentiful. I would not return and would rather spend my money elsewhere.

Absolutely gorgeous food and excellent service. Without doubt excellent value for money. Would definitely recommend.

We decided to visit here yesterday as we was camping near by.

My wife and I visited this restaurant for lunchtime buffet,and found it quite disappointing, ribs were stone cold the food looked as if it had been standing for a long time.

Went to this Chinese after reading the reviews. So went to give it a try. Every thing looked fine and clean and I thought we were in for a good meal.

Thankfully I booked a table - as at 7pm on a Saturday evening the queue was right out of the door!

This place offers a vast selection of tasty and well presented food with all the expected Chinese favourites plus many more dishes. All kept nicely topped up as needed and extremely clean and tidy. Very good value for money. Only negative is the beef dish on offer which is not of the standard of all the others

Really good choice of food, good value, children half price. It was very busy so good turn over of hot food

Lunch visit with a friend on 13th May, very busy when we arrived at 1.15 the tables were all full and plenty going on. The only downside was it was full of children of various ages with it being the weekend. The food was plentiful and hot, being constantly replenished it was very flavoursome with plenty of choice which should appeal to most people. Service was fast and staff very polite. We didn’t have a booking but a table was given straightaway. It has a ramp outside for disabled access but inside is very narrow and if busy a wheelchair would find great difficulty in moving around and trouble accessing toilets. This is a cash only establishment, we have not experienced any problems with rude staff or food on our previous visits.

We regularly eat at Gourmet House because we enjoy the freedom of buffet style eating.

We haven’t been here in quite a while so decided to go for a date night. It has been given a revamp which has made it brighter and very pleasant. The food is plentiful and varied from soups to duck pancakes, ribs, etc to curry, beef, chicken and prawn dishes. The sweets are also oh so tempting! Ice cream, tiny cakes so you can try lots of different ones and a chocolate fountain with sweets and fruit to dip in. It was a Tuesday night and there was a steady flow of customers which goes to show it’s a popular place to eat, if we go at the weekend I would definitely book ahead.

This restaurant serves great Chinese food. The food is fresh, tasty and appealing and the prawn toast is the best I have ever had. We will definitely be going back there and the food is also great value

We were slightly apprehensive tbh, a few buffets have horrendous rep. We booked in advance and were sat by the food. WE ENJOYED EVERYTHING we tried. Very clean place ( this is so important ) lots of variation, regularly re filled and checked. I was in king prawn heaven and could have spent until closing eating platefuls of all prawn varieties on offer. I tried nearly everything, as some food normally, would not order ( sweet & sour). There were duck, beef fillet, king prawns, mussels,noodles,seaweed, cantonese pork, loads more I've forgotten + various curry sauces and large variety of potatoes/chips & vegetables. Daughter & hubby enjoyed a variety of desserts. I had another plate of king prawns for mine !

We visited here after a recommendation from my father and i am so glad he recommended it as it’s hands down one of the best Chinese buffet’s I have ever visited.

We visit gourmet house several times a year, it is our very favourite Chinese buffet :) We usually visit for the lunch menu as it is a bit cheaper- but the selection is great whether you go for lunch or dinner. Full buffet suitable for meat eaters and vegetarians, as well as a great dessert selection and chocolate fountain. I love the ribs and cantonese pork, as well as the beef fillet in black pepper sauce! Would 100% recommend :)

I'm normally stay away from Chinese buffets, but until place is fab. Friendly staff, great with children, clean and well attended. The food is amazing. Not too salty and great quality. Literally love this restaurant. So glad my son chose it for his birthday. 5 of us for late much with a soft drink each...£34 total. Amazing and delicious!

Good food, clean, cheap. Amazing duck, love the fillet beef and prawns. Friendly staff. Love the Mr whippy machine as well

We love coming here as a family for all Occasions. The staff are very accommodating and the place is clean with a huge selection of food it's very convenient to be able to pop in and grab a meal without waiting. We will be back when we nect visit Southport.

My wife and I were staying in Southport, driven from North Wales Bad journey checked into hotel then went to find food!

My friends insist on eating at a cheap buffet restaurant were they can eat what they want and as much as they way. Sadly I find the food to a poor standard which sitting in a Bain Marie for several hours at at time I can’t really blame them it’s what people who go there want. I don’t find it cheap either the bill always come to £20-25 per head. We could go to a better Chinese for this amount I feel.

Love this place lots choice. All fresh . Chocolate fountain . Lots choice of deserts. Service is ten out of ten and it's very cheap. Regular customer now thank you.

I had a lovely meal with a best buddy at the Gourmet House back in the summer. The food is delicious and hot when you get into onto your plate. The choice of food on offer is good. I like the buffet style where you can help yourself to food and eat as much or as little as you like.

We had just visited the fire place immediately next door so decided to try here for lunch. Walked in to a friendly greeting by a couple of young girls who showed us to a table right beside the buffet area. The food looked lovely and there was certainly a good selection available, from soup, ribs, duck panckes with all the trimmings and then several mains. I tried most of the dishes on offer and all were very tasty although a couple of them were a bit cold, this can be a problem on buffets. We then had desserts of which there is a great selection of cakes, ice cream and even a chocolate fountain. All in all a great meal and at under eight pounds each !! We usually drive over to Wigan for a Chinese buffet but agreed that this was as good. The place itself is considerably smaller but this made it more authentic. The staff were very friendly and one Chinese girl spent her time just keeping the service area clean and topping up the food as required. Will certainly be visiting again

Went here today with my Mum and Dad and we were very impressed! Lovely Chinese food with a nice atmosphere, spotlessly clean and a great location in the centre of Southport.

"we booked this restaurant for my birthday on sunday night, absolutely brilliant from the food to the staff, there were 12 of us and each one said they would return, you do get the usual moaners were nothing is good enough for them but believe me this is a gem , we are already discussing when to return. enjoy,

Pleasant, warm atmosphere and friendly staff who explained the dishes etc as we were buffet "first timers". Plenty of variety of dishes available and all fresh and hot. The wine was reasonably priced. All in all a really enjoyable and value for money lunch.

Good buffet choices , plenty staff on , clearing plates and topping food up . Down side was coke tasted of rola cola . We will b back

My family went here for my sons birthday they did have ramp to enter the restaurant but to go to the toilet it was extremely steep ramp to which I nearly toppled backwards. Then when getting to the toilet the disabled toilet was behind the door of the toilet entrance and was not big enough to get wheelchair in I’m paralysed so have to be transferred onto the toilet which I couldn’t do and had to wait until I got home then when leaving the toilet and going back down the ramp it was near impossible to turn at the bottom because they had put chairs there will not be eating here again

Been here on several occasions and always look forward to my next visit, staff are always helpful and pleasant. And the quality of food speak for itself. 5star. Wide variety of even for the fussy eaters. The cakes are a must.

We have been here a few times now every visit has been really good, we try to have different things each time come,good variety of food including the desserts, spoilt for choice,very clean and nice staff.

Visited here with my daughter who is 6 years old.

I probably visit this place at least once a month. The place is awesome! The Chinese food choice is superb and there is also some of the standard British stuff that you would expect like chips, onion rings, nuggets etc.

This is my favourite Chinese buffet because the place has a nice atmosphere, the staff are welcoming and the food is great.

Staff welcoming, attentive, friendly and polite. Clean food area and well stocked dishes at the servery. Food was hot. Not a huge selection of hot dishes on offer but what we tried, was delicious. A vast array of desserts on offer. We are visitors to Southport and definitely recommend a visit.

This is a lovely and clean place with such a good choice of food and desserts. A chocolate fountain and an ice cream machine aswell makes it great for the kids and the adults! They have sausages, nuggets and chips for the kids too.

Great value buffet for the family. No frills about the place but clean and friendly. Plenty of choice in the buffet, starters mains and dessert. Located close to the centre too. Will definitely be back again

The most rudest staff persons you will ever meet. Ridiculously priced and the attitude in there is terrible. Definitely don't recommend eating there, Kung Fu would be the best option.

Visited here with my dad and once again had a good meal at a good price. Lots of selection and all food hot. Welcoming friendly staff.

Went for a birthday celebration. Food choice in buffet was good and quality was good. A big negative was that my 2 daughters (aged 12 and 10) were charged adult prices instead of half price kids. Staff informed me that they class a child as 8 years and under. The front window display states a child must be 140cm or under. My daughters are slightly taller. If they were under 140cm I would have stood my ground. The receipt stated '3 adult dinners' when in reality we were 1 adult and 2 childen. Left feeling diddled. They should look up definition of an adult and use it correctly in their pricing. Disappointed.

Went for lunch yesterday with two of my children. Came to pay the bill and card would not go through as no connection. Told to go get cash & I should have paid before I ate!! Manager Sindy keept my card and threatened to call police in front of my crying child!!! She frog marched me forcefully to get the cash in street!! Outrageous. The place is a sham. Who treats people like that. If your business is scamming tax man at least be upfront about cash only & don’t terrorise children. Disgusting

Went in for food with my friend my 8 yr old and 3 yr old.. the 3 yr old had minimal amounts of food mainly taking bits off mine an her mums plate.. they charged me nearly £3 for rola cola. My bill was £50 for 2 adults a child and a baby.. when challenged we got it’s under new management and when looked online at prices they were different from what we got charged. The food wasn’t fabulous the duck was hard and fatty and if your just popping in for a bite to eat make sure you have deep pockets

Visited here with my girlfriend and adult family yesterday and would definitely go back. The staff were really friendly and didn’t rush us as is common in some buffet places.

Decided to go on Wednesday 2nd of May following recommendation from a friend. (Can't beat word of mouth). Had no problems getting a table but I think when we go at the weekend we will definitely have to book. The staff were very friendly and there was a great of selection of dishes, unusual for "an eat all you can" buffet. The food was hot and fresh and the place was immaculate. (I don't usually mentions loos but these loos are cleanliness personified). Parking is a little difficult which is why we've marked it down by 1 but I'd recommend this Chinese Gem to anyone.

We discovered this lovely little buffet last year and now visit regularly. Pleasant, friendly staff who are all polite and helpful. Good selection of food including vegetarian, nicely presented and topped up.

Three of us decided to go to The Gourmet House on Saturday evening, we were warmly greeted and escorted to our reserved table, passing about 10 people by the entrance, who didn't reserve and were waiting for tables to be made available. The place was packed, noisy and chaotic, obviously very popular. At £13.95 per person for as much Chinese food as you could eat you could not complain. The selection was amazing and delicious, I recommend the spare ribs. My only complaint was that a Diet Coke cost £2.70. We enjoyed the experience and the food, full marks to all the staff who were worked off their feet, but we all agreed that it was not our cup of tea, but glad we went. CASH ONLY (strange).... .

The selection of food is really good, and everything is hot and fresh. Well worth a visit. They even have Peking Duck & Pancakes.

Absolutely disgusting never been anywhere worse food had no taste was chewy and cold would never go again and would never recommend to anyone staff weren’t the nicest and forgot things we ordered terrible

Cant review the food, we never got to the table!!

First time here, we decided to try this new buffet for lunch , was very shocked and surprised how nice the food was!! Will defiantly be making a return trip - maybe for the evening meal at some point :D

Gourmet house is a real treat in our family, and the price means we can justify coming back again and again. Food is always fresh and hot, it's clean and service is friendly and fast. My favourite place to go for a buffet, the ribs...