Based on 398 opinions finded in 2 websites
Based on 398 opinions finded in 2 websites
Nº 81 in 280 in Surrey Heath
Nº 4 of 9 Asian in Surrey Heath
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Great food kingfisher on tap would recommend the chicken Achari
Liam Mitchell . 2024-11-01
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Our order was muddled and not what we asked for but the staff quickly sorted it out and all good in the end
Stephen Bartlett . 2024-10-09
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Love the fact that the employee there was really good and professional. Food is good as well .
Arbiya Khanam . 2024-08-03
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Used for a takeaway and the food was really nice.
James Wheeler . 2024-08-03
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This is a quality curry house. Best in Frimley. 👏
Stevie Haughey . 2024-06-21
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Mixed feelings about how tasty some dishes were. Mine was excellent, others in group not sure. Reservation easy and staff pleasant
Peter B . 2024-05-31
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First time here. Food and service good. We both had a Biriani. Parking round back in car park was near enough.
Kev Allbright . 2024-02-13
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By far the best around. Bangladeshi-influenced dishes, a surprisingly good wine list and attentive service combine to give a great dining experience.
Bill Palmer . 2024-01-29
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One lovely waiter and one very grumpy waiter. Unfortunately we didn't see much of the former. Our whole group had a feeling that we were in the way and it was a pain us being there. No high chair for the little one and in general very bad vibes. That being said 2 of the 3 dishes we ordered were very nice and the final one was wayy too sweet. It tasted like a desert. With a different waiter it could have been a very different experience.
Aiden Byles . 2023-12-25
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Edited to add that recent takeaways have not been as good, so taking off a star. We'll probably be looking elsewhere now. Really nice food and good service. We've eaten in in the past and had a couple of takeaways. Unlike so many places it's actually spicy when they describe a dish as spicy. Some Indian food can be very oily too and this wasn't. Highly recommended.
Richard Young . 2023-12-09
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Lovely food and great service , I’ve eaten in and had delivery. Always great food
antony kleeman . 2023-10-27
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It was our 10th wedding anniversary and we’re both very busy at work, Being a week night and shattered we wanted to celebrate but be close by to walk to and walk back home. Walked into frimley town and walked in and no prior booking, service was great, mo was our host and lovely, he recommended stuff and went out of his way to recommend stuff after our original waiter had take our order and suggested stuff that was brilliant and given to us free of charge to try and learn. We have now found our new fav curry place and given this area it’s shocking for good places to eat! We were very happy! Had a lovely meal and will be back for my birthday in December! Thank you Mohamed. Food was amazing!!! Staff great and would recommend to everyone x
Tanya G . 2023-10-25
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Simply the best ! Curry is my favourite food and with work I travel all over the country. So I experience nearly every week the good,bad and indifferent curry restaurants. This is simply the best I have visited this year. The food is outstanding as is the service so good I went back the next evening.
MTDKent . 2023-09-26
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I needed to use the ladies desperately, I was quickly ushered in, I then ordered a bottle of water as a thank you and the manager/ owner insisted on it being on the house!! I haven't eaten here but based on their incredible kindness I will honestly suggest everyone pop in a vist! I couldn't even imagine how wonderful they treat their paying guests!! Thank you!
Aadela Paruk . 2023-09-06
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Very poor service miserable waiter dident even say hello to us I will never go back again
Jay Sarj . 2023-06-19
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Lovely meal, highly recommended.
Paul Briscoe . 2023-04-28
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Nice friendly owner, good food. Sometimes groups can be a bit loud in there but overall one of my favourite restaurants
Frances F . 2023-04-16
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First time we've had food from here, but not the last. Our delivery arrived on time, food was nice and hot. Everything was tasty and I would definitely recommend this restaurant. We will be ordering again in the future.
Tracey Duff . 2023-04-11
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Located on the Frimley parade of shops opposite White Hart pub with plenty of parking at the rear (payable 24/7 although sign above entrance (see my pic) states parking free after 6pm!). Our 5yr old grandson enjoys nothing more than a curry and said he really enjoyed his chicken tikka masala and accompaniments. I had chicken madras and it was a bit hotter than I expected! Staff were friendly and have to say we all enjoyed the food but surprisingly there’s no dessert menu? When we visited on a Saturday evening they were very busy with takeaways (free delivery or 15% off for collection).
nnmercman . 2023-03-25
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Excellent meal with fantastic selection of standard and exotic meals together with perfect service. Strongly recommend you give this superb restaurant a try. Will definitely return.
Peter Sinclair . 2023-03-10
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Great homely food - perfect spice and not over whelming, first time visited and certainly will be going back. Great vegetarian selection and good service.
Bill K . 2023-03-07
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Food quality and taste is average. We did takeaway garlic naan, tandoor roti and mix grill. The breads were good but mix grill was pretty disappointing. No taste whatsoever and it was very bland. The chutney they gave with mix grill was sweet. Wont recommend their mix grill atleast.
Ramya Radhakrishnan . 2023-01-28
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Great friendly staff and fantastic food.
Tony Auger . 2023-01-27
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A superb restaurant! Beautiful and highly authentic food... Great service and a warm welcome was had all evening... Great selection of drinks on display... We had an awesome evening and will certainly be returning in the near future... Thanks Elaichi
Charles Westlake . 2023-01-22
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Absolutely the nicest Indian restaurant around! Excellent service, beautiful food and great atmosphere. Sunday-Thursday all you can eat menu is just what we like. We keep returning!!!! Even the drinks are reasonable!! Roll on next visit.
Sianbm . 2023-01-12
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Food was really lovely, staff very friendly and attentive, great service and a pleasant atmosphere. Also the price was very good. Definitely going again . If you haven't been, try it, you'll love it.
Lorraine and Mal . 2023-01-01
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We visited for the first time NYE with friends who are regular customers, and love the food here. We were not disappointed! We usually stick with our favorite Camberley Asian restaurant, but we will be adding this to our favorites. The food was delicious, fresh and high quality. When ordering the server made recommendations as to what rice would go best with the dishes we had ordered which I've never experienced before and appreciated. The food was brought out quickly, fresh and hot. The food was made with authentic ingredients and an ingredient I had never come across before in my experience with asian food (which I love as a cuisine) When I asked the server what it was he explained and then brought out another sample of the particular ingredient for me to try separately while he explained what it was and how they make and use it. I was really impressed at the attentiveness of the server, he was clearly passionate about the food they serve and he made us feel welcome and valued. We will be back as regular customers!
katiesH1036MW . 2023-01-01
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UPDATE: The restaurant has responded to this review (below) and unfortunately has felt the need to be rude, dishonest and insulting :-( We will not lower ourselves to the same standard of conduct but just correcting facts to readers. Alcohol drinks WERE ordered beyond the table water (for children) by us and delivered to the wrong diners on our table, then later a Prosecco with glass (for the table opposite) was presented to our table. The restaurant wishes to make up their own version of events - which only discloses their demeanour towards their customers - therefore one star deducted for telling lies and making condescending remarks to a honest review. As two families (with kids), of Indian and Nepalese origin, we often eat out together to sample various Asian cuisines. Not exactly professional critics but we have fairly experienced taste palettes for this part of the food spectrum (from authentic and variety dishes in the UK, India, Nepal, Thailand, Singapore, etc.) and our simple verdict was that Elaichi fails miserably to deliver an authentic East Asian food experience. We sampled a broad range of starter and main (veg, fish and meat) dishes, sides, salads, breads and rice, and won't deep dive into each one, but in short, if you just fancy 'a plain curry night out' then you won't be disappointed and the heat (in both senses) should satisfy the average, occasional diner unbothered about the dish character and flavoursome recipes. Beyond the taste and its lacking of depth and flavours, a significant proportion of the absent stars is down to Elaichi not serving sensible, fair portions. All dishes sampled were ridiculously lacking in portion (for their price point) hence this is not a restaurant to go to if you are hungry and have a 'normal' budget of say £20 per head - which for us we know could achieve much more and better food for the same price. If you can afford to double that price per head, go ahead and give Elaichi a go. Other notable non-foodie failings included: no welcoming contact upon arrival by staff, regular contact on offering of poppadum (as if one waiter was on a mission all evening to push them out and claim sales commission - quite laughable but disruptive nonetheless), a loud chef who was insistent on declaring each dishes arrival, drinks being ordered to wrong diners (not just across the same table but across other customers too!), no soap whatsoever in the gents (this one could spell trouble legally for the restaurant if it's not a one off). In summary, I think it goes without saying that Elachi in Frimley is not recommended by us. We understand times are hard for small businesses and hope our honest review of two stars will not significantly lower the average rating. Actually, Elaichi in comparison to other 'Indian' restaurants, is not far from one star but not quite there. We wish the business well and hope they can take this review constructively and positively, and are able to improve and give their nearby competitors something to worry about. For now, Elaichi is not for us.
PUNN Family . 2022-12-25
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Food average. Service poor. Tried to charge for another serving when our 4 year old join the buffet by eating a bit of naan.
Simon M . 2022-12-24
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Cannot wait to go back to this restaurant. Superb service and delicious food. Waiter was really attentive. Highly recommend.
Venture785780 . 2022-12-19
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Super restaurant am lucrat acolo
Eugen Luca . 2022-10-27
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Second time we’ve had takeaway from Elaichi and both times it’s been superb. In my opinion they are far better than similar restaurants in the local area. Definitely now my default takeaway.
Nick Adlam . 2022-10-23
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Amazing exceptionally tasty food… lovely genuine staff too! Highly recommend this lovely restaurant 🥰👍🏼🤩
Alyson 0 . 2022-10-21
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Food was OK, but nothing special. Occasion spoilt by loud and obnoxious group who made it nigh on impossible to have a conversation.
Ian Raisbeck . 2022-10-20
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Really great food and enjoyed the atmosphere here
Dom Turl . 2022-10-09
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Great food! Will definitely be back
Rowan Harrison . 2022-09-22
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Had a fabulous meal. We were 4 people and the head waiter was excellent when we were ordering to advise if a rice or side was not complementary to our main dish and recommended alternatives to enhance our flavour experiences to the full. Good quality food, great flavours, fresh. Nice atmosphere with a waiter that knew his menu and wanted us to have the best taste experience. Will definitely return. Thanks to Elaichi (means Cardamon)
Andrew Fennymore-White . 2022-09-16
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We went to Elachi for the first time tonight and we were not disappointed. The food was very tasty, served fresh and piping hot. The staff were all very friendly too. We will definitely come back with our kids. Thank you for a wonderful evening!
Emy Cudiamat . 2022-09-02
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Food was so so... service was average.
s s . 2022-08-30
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Delicious food with some great house specials that you don’t find everywhere. A fabulous first visit - we will be back again!
Fluffy_duck1704 . 2022-08-29
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A few of us went to Elaichi last night for a bight to eat and a catch up. The food and service was absolutley spot on! We'll definitely be back...
Trevor Cooper . 2022-08-19
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My husband and a few friends went to Elaichi a few months ago on a boys night out and really sung the praises of not only the excellent food, but exemplary service. We live about 25 miles away so waited till getting together with some other friends who live near Frimley. I was really keen to experience it for myself. We visited early on a Friday evening and it was quiet so we had very quick service. The waiter explained that they cook everything fresh and so when I asked if the lamb would be tender he assured me it would. In fact everything was tender - more tender lamb than I’ve ever had actually- and the flavours were fresh and rich. My chicken tikka was full of flavour and my husbands fish starter was unusual and really delicious. I had fruity lamb passanda main and it was exceptional. I thought my husband would find it too sweet but he loved it too. He had Achari lamb and he adored it. Very zesty lime flavour which was great as he loves lime pickle whereas it’s not for me! It went down very well with one of our friends though who had chosen the classic tikka masala. Vegetables sides were really good too and I would say this is possibly the best food served in any Indian continent restaurant I’ve had. The chef is pushing the boundaries for the typical English palate - thank goodness!!!! There are dishes on this menu that are unusual and delicious. Be adventurous and ask for a recommendation from the proprietor as he is also a chef. You won’t be disappointed
Carol S . 2022-07-23
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Great food, great service, pleasant atmosphere
Debbie Rogers . 2022-07-23
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Absolutely 1st class food and service, went off menu and didn’t disappoint I’m a big lover of Indian food and Elaichi definitely did the business Thanks fellas
Lee Green . 2022-07-04
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Banging curry well worth a visit
Amy Frost . 2022-07-01
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Nice. Menu varied and a little bit different from regular curry house. Promising start. Service very good. Food nicely presented and place generally clean. Only down side and kind of spoiled it a bit was whilst the quality of the cooking and flavours was very good, the quality of the meat used was really not. Chicken had quite a lot of gristle. Lamb had quite a lot of fatty bits. Put us off what otherwise would have been a really nice meal.
NormallyConstructive . 2022-06-15
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Absolutely brilliant all you can eat menu. Superb service and a large choice of dishes to choose from. Have been here 3 times now and very tasty everytime.
Oliver Harrington . 2022-06-13
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Friendly service from a good menu. Food arrived hot and tasty but there are a lot of Indian restaurants offering the same level of food. I would and probably will return when in the area again.
iand313 . 2022-06-11
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Very friendly staff lovely food eating in or takeaway. never had a problem with anythink allways offer to help if your not sure what's in it and happy to change it if not happy. I received a birthday present with our delivery which was a very nice surprise .I have recommended to friends and all say the same great food
Shirley Robinson . 2022-06-11
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Amazing superb food and excellent service great curry experience 👌
SI PA . 2022-06-09
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We attended Elachi for a farewell to a friend dinner, the restaurant had a huge booking on the same night. The food was superb, served both fresh and piping hot! Oh my the staff worked hard to take care of us all. Thank you Elachi we had a wonderful evening.
hilary Valentine . 2022-05-31
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Good service...lovely food. Could do with a bit more atmosphere. Quiet for a Friday night.
Karen Jones . 2022-05-30
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Don't bother visiting gone down hill. Oh and after contacting them after they left a reply to do so below this comment, the owner then insulted me and continued to insult me via email . Not professional at all very childish !!!
terry Brown . 2022-05-22
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First time trying them. Really good, tasty curry we all enjoyed (dhansak, biriyani and tikka). Quick delivery. Will use again.
Richard Mcgowan . 2022-04-29
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Best Indian around. The Bangladesh tikka korma is immense
Claire Harrison . 2022-04-25
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Unfortunately we were quide disappointed with the takeaway, may be it was the spice selection, but to our tast it was not up to our normal takeaway (it was closed today)
michael_mcateer . 2022-04-05
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Just had the most delicious biryani. Will definitely order again.
Tanja Coetzee . 2022-04-03
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Not from the area but had a meal here last night, quality of the food was excellent and the waiter/head of house was very friendly and helpful with our choices. Will definitely use again when in the area
Carl Howell . 2022-03-26
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I love this place. Service is great. The maitre d’ is amazing so are the rest of the staff. Food is great. I have been twice. Will definitely go back.
Goran Ahmed . 2022-03-05
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Great service. Really appreciated the recommendations, useful for someone not too familiar. Food was delicious all around. Going again soon.
Didar Meeran . 2022-03-05
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I am not a fan of Indian food. My friend loves it so I used to visit the restaurant with her. I really enjoyed the food so much that when fancy it I order it for a takeaway, I order this everytime. The mushroom rice is so fresh and fragrant. The keema naan so light and fluffy. The shaslick so so tasty. Onion bajis are bite size and so flavoursome. Everytime I have been in or ordered it's the same really good quality Thank you so much.
sarahbH5806OX . 2022-02-03
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Visited this place with a few friends and family, the service and food were great and highly recommended.
Mbker . 2022-01-09
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A long time customer, I have now waited over two and a half hours for a delivery...not acceptable when it was promised within the hour after I ordered it. Food is ok but service has gone downhill recently.
P O . 2021-12-31
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I asked the waiter for his recommendation on dish as I wasn't sure what to get so described what I like and that I'd rather a "special" from the restaurant rather than a standard tikka, etc. which could be got anywhere. I should also note that I have a gluten allergy and almost anything could be catered for me here which is great! His recommendations for both me and my friend were really tasty and very fresh. Only minor comment I would make is the rice is a very small portion - I would recommend you get one rice per person, we shared one between the two of us and it wasn't quite enough. I thought the prices were very reasonable and weren't overpriced at all.
hayleyrose30 . 2021-11-30
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We had a very well organised meal and the staff were very attentive !The food was delicious and we will definitely be returning !!
Gill L . 2021-11-26
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Despite being quite busy and a little noisy, we were very well looked after. The food was at its usual high standard and the service was attentive. We had booked a table for 4 and were quickly seated and drinks orders taken; ordered drinks, popadums...
Roger P . 2021-11-11
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Elaichi will always remain our first choice for a great takeaway. We don't eat out often but always order from Elachi for our takeaway. The food is outstanding, delicious and the service has always been above none. Forever one of our favourites. The Lamb Korai...
TasTen79 . 2021-10-13
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I regularly order takeways and have never been dissapointed, it's always an excellent experience. The food is lovely. I've tried a few restaurants when I moved into the area but Elaichi is the winner for me and is now my first choice every time -...
tonygT2597EV . 2021-10-10
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Superb ! Literally superb ! My husband is very particular about his lamb madras, (extra garlic and a thick sauce) and they nail it every single time ! Fresh food, beautifully cooked, piping hot ! Staff are so accommodating and helpful. Just love this place...
Emma R . 2021-09-24
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Very good food staff great nos what gos with what very helpful. had a new menu last night lamb chops was on it so tried them omg thay were delicious my daughter is gluten-free they went out and bought special gluten-free ingredients and made her...
shirleyrC6229FE . 2021-09-21
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Came here with my wife... I was really undecided what to have. The waiter asked me a few questions on what I do and don't enjoy and then recommend a dish. So I went with it and glad I did it was absolutely lovely and...
johnsamlucy . 2021-09-18
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I went to Elachai last night with friends and had a lovely meal. There were the favourites on the menu along with a few others I hadn't seen before. When the food arrived it was tasty and really good quality meat. Everything was well presented...
GinaC629 . 2021-09-17
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Had a lovely meal at Elaichi yesterday evening, good choice of dishes and it was nice to see some new ones I hadn't tried before. Food was lovely, good size portions and nicely presented. Even on a Thurs night the place was full so a good atmosphere to eat in. The stand out factor though was the staff! I didn't catch his name but the main man was informative, friendly and funny. He made us feel welcomed and a little bit special. We will definitely be going back!
Gina Coates . 2021-09-17
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First visit to this restaurant I must say very impressed, food was lovely there was four of us and we all had different meals and everything was very tasty And well presented. Manager exceptionally friendly and very accommodating and helpful. Would definitely recommend and we...
Connie1s . 2021-09-16
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Had a wonderful evening with friends , made all the more better with the lovely food and wonderful service given to us. The banter between the main waiter and us was great. Highly recommend this restaurant. Im sure we will be back on a regular...
832nickih . 2021-09-16
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We visited here at the end of July as a family celebration as we had missed so many birthdays & anniversaries during lockdown. My husband just wanted something a little different to eat that was hot & spicy. The waiter was excellent & took time...
Clare G . 2021-08-22
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Really good food, probably one of the best around 👌
Barry Smith . 2021-08-22
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Very helpful staff and friendly staff who helped us choose from their menu of speciality dishes. Super, freshly cooked, delicious food. Highly recommended.
B3946RCianp . 2021-08-11
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Great food, friendly staff and good value.
Colin Carpenter . 2021-08-05
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A nice little place to eat staff were friendly. Food was amazing and the menu meant it was easy to try new things
426rachealg . 2021-08-03
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Great food and great customer service
Michael Maynard . 2021-06-24
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We went to Elaichi this evening to celebrate a friend's birthday. Everyone made us feel very welcome. We had the taster menu so we tried a little bit of many dishes - thoroughly enjoyable experience! For the birthday girl the staff prepared a special chicken...
VBL247 . 2021-05-31
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Had take away this evening Onion bhaji small and greasy Lamb tikka, very tough King prawn tikka masala, prawns good but disgusting colour of sauce Chicken chat okay Chicken masala korai. Okay Doubt ifwould use this local restaurant again
175joycef . 2021-05-29
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such a great restaurant - food is amazing, really fresh and tasty. Service is great as well. Would highly recommend this restaurant.
JMBv1364 . 2021-05-28
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Our 6 or 7 times and have always found the restaurant to be of an extreme high quality. The manager Mizan and his staff are very attentive, providing advice on the various dishes in the comprehensive menu. The food was beautifully presented an absolutely delicious...
stevelU9883NC . 2021-05-28
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I would to say a huge thank you to the team of elaichi for the fantastic experience we had after so many months. The service, the food was on point. The waiter will always go the extra mile to create
Shoborna . 2021-05-27
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Firstly we have certainly misses elaichi beung a fairly frequent dinner when a friends get together meal. The new revamped dishes introduced is a winner for me. I would certainly recommend you ask the member of staff for recomendation. You won't be let down.
moinurr2016 . 2021-05-27
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Am lucrat acolo sper restaurant
eugen luca . 2021-05-21
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Knocked me sick for a week and with a 2 star food Hygiene Rating I'm Not surprised. Be careful where you eat This could be your last supper
BIG B . 2021-05-10
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I really like the food from this restaurant but I think their delivery service is very poor. I had to phone twice and was told it had just left so would be there in 10 minutes but my order was nearly an hour late! In future I will pick it up myself. It spoiled my husband's food as his had arrived on time from elsewhere.
Julie Nicolai . 2021-02-14
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Lovely food bryiani was so good
Trudie Gostage . 2021-01-12
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Just got home from a fantastic restaurant we go their quiet alot and i asked him to choose my meal I had the samon which I would never had eaten but I will definitely be haveing it again it's delicious and very tasty I was...
shirleyrC6229FE . 2020-12-16
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I have always found the food to be extremely tasty and of the highest quality. The menu offers a good variety of choices. When eating in the service has always been really good.
owen page . 2020-12-12
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Good chicken tikka but customer service is poor and didn't enjoy my time with friends at this restaurant
G6 Sierra . 2020-12-12
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After trying a number of other local Indian restaurants we found ourselves back at Elaichi in Frimley. The food continues to be excellent, the service attentive and the costs are modest. During lock-down we regularly used their take-away service: They were always expecting us, the...
Roger P . 2020-11-08
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Regularly use Elaichi for take away. Food is always outstanding, service friendly and professional. In an area full of excellent Indian restaurants, Elaichi stand out for me. Great range of dishes, full of flavour, and superbly presented. If you enjoy Indian food, I fully recommend these guys.
Matt Conlon . 2020-11-06
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We go every month the staff are very nice,friendly and helpful and allways give us the same table.the food is very nice well cooked,hot and tasty.i tryed something new last time but didn't like it thay offered to change it for me. If your not...
ShirleyR1197 . 2020-10-25
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Friendly staff, good food. Socially distanced tables. Would recommend.
Linda Carter . 2020-10-17
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Had a takeaway tonight - wanted to cut meat out so tried the Vegetable Passanda - it was amazing! Everything else was delicious too and the person delivering was really pleasant too - love this local business.
Catherine Shiner . 2020-09-30
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Family favourite for takeaway. Reasonable price and excellent quality food
Matthieu Pinel . 2020-09-23
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Great restaurant, amazing food and fantastic service. Have been coming for t years and plan to for many more! The best around by miles!
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We booked a table last night for a family occasion, we have used this curry house frequently over the years for eating in and takeaway. Unfortunately now the service and quality of food struggles to meet a 5 out of 10. Poor service - forgetting items off your order & generally a miserable bunch of people along with food that has to go back to the kitchen. I think it’s time that the manger / owner sits down and re evaluates his restaurant as it’s now at the point of sink or swim especially in this climate.