Based on 114 opinions finded in 1 websites
Based on 114 opinions finded in 1 websites
Nº 128 in 468 in Flintshire
Nº 35 of 110 Other cuisines in Flintshire
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Was our favourite place to visit for breakfast, but last 2 visits have been very poor. Badly cooked hard bacon hard eggs small sausages and not much difference between small breakfast and large breakfast. Very expensive. Sadly will be our last visit
Shelley F . 2024-09-28
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Fantastic food and lovely staff. We will definitely be coming back. The cafe is set back off the road and plenty of space for parking. Food was excellent quality and plenty of it. Highly recommended.
Vinny . 2024-08-24
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Lovely little cafe set in the countryside,can't wait to come again . Nice little shop onsite. Service very good and food came fairly quick. Menu very good and not too pricey. Brownies to die for.
Ireg Sdlonyer . 2024-08-24
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Second visit and equally delighted. Lovely ambuence, gorgeous food. Not a massive menu choice but all good. SCONES TO DIE FOR. Only minor negatives are the very unckmfortable hard chairs and being served food and not having ut explained that we needed to collect cutlery and condiments. Neither spoiled the visit but making sure custimers know the situation with cutlery would improve the perception of the service.
GPB45 . 2024-08-15
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Visited Betty Berkins several times on our way to Conwy …. Great food and service and all home made …. Cakes are exceptional Highly recommend.
Gaynor H . 2024-07-12
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We'd been told about this place and finally got here. What a find! Spick, span and comfortable. Welsh speaking (if you want it), dog friendly even selling doggie ice cream. Although not a huge menu the food was different from the norm and beautifully prepared and presented for example garlic mushrooms brie and caramalised onion chutney toastie with a little salad. Just to die for and not too much garlic. If all that ipsn't enough there's a beautiful gift shop attached selling some more unusual products and not the usual tacky gifts so many "gift" shops sell.
GPB45 . 2024-06-07
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We wanted to stop for a break to our trip to Anglesey, Rhosneigr. Betty Berkins was about halfway to our destination so we decided to try it. What a delightful place; lovely and clean and we got such a warm welcome. The food we had was delicious and we were sorry we were too full to sample the lovely home made cakes; but hopefully we will stop on our way back home and rectify this. A really lovely place to which we will visit again....and again.
ROSEMARY P . 2024-05-15
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First visit and definitely not the last. We had the most lovely lunch here. Everything about our visit here was amazing from the food to the service. The soup was absolutely delicious and the sandwiches were made with the freshest bread and ingredients. The cake was so yummy and moist and not overly sweet - just perfect ! The service was amazing ! The staff were so welcoming and friendly. Our doggy was given some water and treats - it is nice when someplace says they are dog friendly that really are dog friendly and your doggy is made to feel like part of the family. We love to support local businesses and for us that’s one of the major factors in deciding whether we would go somewhere again and we will definitely be back here again to enjoy the lovely service and food. Great prices, great food and great service - thank you so much to all the staff x
Nicola W . 2024-04-06
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Such a friendly, warm welcome on arrival. We wanted a stop off for lunch off the A55 and Betty Berkins Coffee Shop didn't disappoint. So pleased we found this place for our 7 travellers. We will certainly be calling in again
Explore56064216851 . 2024-03-03
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Fabulous coffee shop, with very friendly staff and lovely cakes, cakes looked to die for but didn’t indulge. Stop with my girlfriends on way to north wales for lunch, not far off the A55. I would recommend eating here
alisqu . 2024-02-09
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Excellent food, pleasant atmosphere (even during a busy lunchtime rush period) & very friendly staff! I would definitely cone here again… and again!
Simon H . 2024-02-02
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What a fabulous coffee shop! Lovely ambience,lovely staff, lovely food. And there's a plus......a quaint, what I would call a "faffary" shop. Cute home furnishing goodies at The Rabbit Hole next door. It's a win win for me.
Pollywally1111 . 2024-01-17
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Found this on google search as mid point to stop on our journey on holiday to Anglesey Liked it so much we returned on our way home Great welcome Fab food Excellent service Plenty of parking space We will definitely go back again … and again 🤣
ChrisD006 . 2023-11-11
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A truly great find, staff very friendly and lunch and coffee excellent. Our dog was with us. He behaved well until the lady came to collect our empty plates. For reason we will never know, he lunged, disconcerting for us and her too. I apologised and he was quite calm again as we left. We have to say until that moment the visit was excellent.
Hilary M . 2023-10-07
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A cracking find not far off main road. We had breakfast naps - substantial and filling. Then went on to try the biscotti cheese cake - very yummy.
Doug M . 2023-09-02
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Lovely cafe inside, was looking forward to it… Very pricey for the amount you get… £10.95 for smashed avocado on toast. Soup couldn’t in a smaller bowl!! Be aware the price doesn’t reflect in the portions. I’ve never seen coleslaw served in a more tinier bowl😂 staff were friendly. The food was nice
Orbine . 2023-06-18
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We had stayed at the local travel lodge after attending a wedding in the area and Betty Berkins seemed to have good reviews. It was delightful in every way. Very welcoming, friendly chatty staff and the breakfasts we ordered were all of top quality. Lovely way to start the day. Don’t hesitate to go if you’re in the area!
ChrissieA692 . 2023-06-11
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Me, my wife Clare and our 🐕 Morâg have just visited for the first and most definitely not the last time. My breakfast was superb, Clare's poached eggs were done to perfection and Morâg loved her sausage. Oh I almost forgot to say that it is worth a visit just for the Kiwi coffee.
Billy A . 2023-06-03
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A really lovely place, the staff are very welcoming and friendly, and an large number of delicious cakes!
Happyfisherwoman . 2023-05-17
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What a hidden gem. Staff amazing, food outstanding Great choice on the menu and the cake selection out of this world. We'll worth a visit. The shop adjoining is lovely with a mixture of old and new if you love wooden crafted items like me.
Helen L . 2023-04-22
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Haven’t reviewed for a while so just repeating previous reviews I’ve done. Betty Berkins….you are still as good as ever. Thursday April 14th…Acknowledged as soon as we enter,seated quickly and efficiently and food ordered and brought out to us within 10-15 minutes…fresh,hot and very tasty . The staff here are without exception,the very best there is. So congratulations on doing a brilliant job.
wackojackoNorthWales . 2023-04-15
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Cost a fortune for supposedly high tea , they took an hour to arrive sandwiches ok but the cakes were cheap and not at all nice no tea or coffee which usually arrives with high tea we paid separately for coffee. It was a very sad expensive experience. I would not advise anyone wasting their money, one member had a cheese toasty which was burnt to a crisp . Very unhappy 🙁
Jean J . 2023-04-01
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What a fantastic eatery. Delicious food, amazing service. Went with friends on our way for a weekend away! Highly recommended!
Dream474177 . 2023-03-24
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Delicious food, great service and cakes to die for. Well worth a visit, even if for cakes and coffee (quiche and cakes,etc are all homemade). We booked and glad we did as it was very busy.
EAHughes100 . 2023-02-23
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Always excellent food, service and friendly staff. We asked for the specials and chose steak and ale pie. It arrived beautifully presented and the steak was delicious I however didn't know the price of the special as it wasn't written anywhere I could see and found out as I was paying It was delicious but myself and my husband have big appetites and felt the portion could have been a little more generous for the price. However it was delicious and I couldn't fault it otherwise. I would check the price of the specials in future when ordering so don't feel embarrassed at the till
mrspotato7 . 2023-01-29
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Had coffee and cake followed by lunch with friends. The setting is excellent with large car park and gift shop to go in as well. The cafe is well decorated and traditional offering all teas and coffee's as well as cold drinks and home made cakes and other treats. Lunch menu extensive, quality ingredients and well cooked and presented. Prices offer good value for money. Staff very friendly and helpful. We all enjoyed a good catch up in fine surroundings.
summertimespecial . 2022-12-27
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Accidentally stumbled across this place when we were on our way home from visiting wales. We ordered a breakfast after breakfast finishing time, and it was lovely. The lady was very friendly and food arrived very quickly, and tasted of good quality. Only thing I’d prefer was a runnier egg but that’s just personal preference. We didn’t try the cakes as we were too full from the breakfast but they looked beautiful and there were so many to choose from. Thank you ☺️
gas994 . 2022-11-22
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Lovely atmosphere Tea was lovely but perhaps it could include more savory items eg.sausage rolls and I think for the price the tea and coffee should be bottomless ( you shouldn't have to pay more for a second cup ) all should be included Finally...
derwen01 . 2022-10-28
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We drove past the coffee shop by chance today, and decided to call for lunch on the spur of the moment. We were very pleased we did. I had the Goats Cheese salad with beetroot and peaches, it was very good. My daughter had the...
haveubooked . 2022-10-18
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This is an OUTSTANDING RESTAURANT. We've been a few times now and on each occasion the food is fantastic, the staff are brilliant, they're lovely and very friendly. And finally the cakes, they put Bake off to shame!
paulhO7402NG . 2022-10-17
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I have been to Betty Berkins quite a few times now and it is the best Coffee shop / tea rooms in the area. All of the cakes are absolutely delicious and home made. The breakfasts are amazing too! Tea is served in a china...
Tour61953293482 . 2022-10-13
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A real gem! Everytime I've been I've not been let down. The staff super friendly & service great will do anything for you. Food, superb. Plenty to choose from in menu from light lunch or have a homemade quiche & plenty of specials on. So...
dawn r . 2022-10-12
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First time visiting for lunch with friends. Staff extremely friendly and efficient. Food absolutely delicious and the best coffee I have ever tasted and as for the key lime pie…wow!!! I can’t wait to come back and try another cake!!!
Freedom826507 . 2022-10-12
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place is nice but they are way overpriced , full cups would be beneficial considering your paying £3 upwards for a coffee. Bit of a wit too for service, queing system is confusing
Warren S . 2022-10-12
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Nice setting and decor , service was ok but I really don’t understand why they are asking the prices they are , they’re way too high for what it is. There are equally as good places nearby which are equal quality / portion size but...
Warren S . 2022-10-11
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My friend & I have both wanted to visit Betty Berkins for so long , so we decided to book in for Prosecco Afternoon Tea for my birthday. It was delightful! The sandwiches and cakes were delicious. I am fussy but they were able to...
melaniesmith172 . 2022-09-28
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Always a welcoming friendly reception from the lovely staff. The food is always fantastic - Darren's cakes are works of art! You'd be hard pressed to find a better eatery in Flintshire. Love it!
SimonJohnBell . 2022-09-02
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Top road of Holywell past the Garage and Bike shop, heading towards the A55. Looks like a farm lane from the road. What a lovely place for a cute cafe, local craft shop, hairdresser and a holistic therapist Susan Griffin round the corner. Dogs allowed...
LadiesThatLunch2123 . 2022-08-24
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Thank you for making a lovely afternoon for our group of friends. Made to feel very welcome, well looked after by Bev in a lovely room with homemade sandwiches and delicious cakes by Darren. Much enjoyed.
Xmaseve55 . 2022-08-17
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We arrived before midday and the place was very busy with people enjoying breakfast. It was a beautiful day so we were able to sit outside. We had a lovely breakfast, which we all enjoyed, except for a very well harned piece of black pudding,...
hilsr2014 . 2022-07-22
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We visited for the second time , the place is nice but We both thought that for the price £27 for two breakfasts and 2 coffee’s was far too expensive for what was an average breakfast and they wanted additional for black pudding , you...
Warren S . 2022-07-10
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Was driving to Anglesey for the week with family and was looking for somewhere to stop for breakfast. Betty Berkins didnt disapoint. Brilliant breakfast and fabulous array of cakes. Spotlessly clean and really convenient stop from the A55. Would definitely recommend and will return.
Bettyboo1805 . 2022-06-29
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We have wanted to visit here for months having seen their delicous looking cakes on Facebook. Eventually we went on Father's Day. On arrival we were pleased to see it looked lovely from the outside. Nice big flat carpark. We ate inside and were accomodated...
chiaritraveller . 2022-06-19
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Visited Betty Berkins today with my sisters. It is absolutely delightful, the food was outstanding, the sandwiches, quiche and homemade cakes we ordered were delicious. We can't recommend this lovely venue highly enough. Without doubt worth 5 stars and more!!
U6001SOcarolc . 2022-06-07
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We were staying in the Travel Lodge in Halkyn and you were only 6 minutes from us. We came for a breakfast just me and my little girl. This place has such a lovely energy and the taller lady with the reddish hair was so...
Laura B . 2022-04-15
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We found this lovely little place whilst out walking and cannot recommend it highly enough. The food is beautiful, the location is perfect and the customer service is exceptional. It is an absolute must for all.
19DJP76 . 2022-03-27
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I visit at least once a week. The food and service are excellent. I particularly like Betty’s because of it’s dog friendliness. Dogs and owner have their own side room and, contrary to one reviewer, dogs most certainly do not ‘run around’ To even mention...
NevilleMac . 2022-03-12
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What a find .A little out of the way but we’ll worth searching out .Excellent and beautifully presented food .The Welsh breakfast highly recommended.Tea in China cups and superb coffee.Very nice staff too.We hadn’t realised you can book but we were there for breakfast so...
ritchieFlintshire . 2022-03-04
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Always a lovely visit here. Staff are always friendly and helpful. Excellent choice of food and cakes. Today we all had fish finger sandwiches which were lovely and came nicely presented on a slate with side salad. There is a little side room which we...
mrspotato7 . 2022-02-23
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Normally closed on Tuesday’s Betty Berkins cafe opened specially for us today for the start of our monthly car run. Many thanks for our special treatment and for making us all welcome.
eeyorelover . 2022-02-22
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We came for our wedding anniversary and they where amazing the afternoon tea was Devine and the attention to detail was fantastic, we where made to feel so special. Thank you so much for a wonderful afternoon
920suzc . 2021-12-15
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Been to Betty Berkins on a number of occasions so that tells you something! The food has on every occasion been good. The decor is nice but the place lacks atmosphere. Not quite sure what's missing but something is. Maybe a little music would help??...
Linda P . 2021-12-04
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We were looking for a nice spot to have lunch after leaving Prestatyn & heading back home to Manchester Found this place on Trip Advisor & thought how good it sounded, so we attempted to find it! Not easy but with help from a local...
CLLManchester . 2021-10-29
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This is a great cafe with a lovely selection of breakfast/lunches and some great coffee and cakes. Slightly more expensive than other places locally but the welcome and views make up for it - it is a lovely location
PurplePoodle . 2021-10-23
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This was my first visit to Betty Berkins. We received a warm and friendly welcome. Staff took time to go through all the cakes, they had gluten free and vegan options available. My friend and I decided to have a toastie, it was delicious and...
mrspotato7 . 2021-10-07
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Fabulous place. Friendly staff. Loved the freshly made Welsh Rarebit. Great choice of cakes , and can recommend the Lemon Meringue. Will definitely visit again
PaulRaby . 2021-09-16
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The manager of this lovely venue could not have been more accommodating, and made my Mum’s 70th a really special occasion. The private room was pretty, the china was fancy, the tea and coffee were lovely and the lemon drizzle cake was fabulous!! Thank you...
hannahkN5408JW . 2021-09-12
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A seamless way to cater for a family party, from chatting through the menu, to collection on the sunday, the food was great quality, fresh and beautifully presented. Faultless and would highly recommend.
nicchapel . 2021-08-23
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Found this place after scouring the area for breakfast opportunities. Really pleased with the results, awesome service and awesome breakfast, well worth the stop off
MattA532 . 2021-08-22
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Brilliant find. Picked this place off Google maps while driving up the A55. We got lucky. It was busy but we were still well looked after. Great reasonably priced food and superb coffee and cake. Service prompt but not rushed. The owner and her staff...
Maps34470909026 . 2021-08-21
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It was what was described, mushrooms on toast, but oh dear... A slab of quality brown bread, toasted till dry, topped with dry brown mushrooms. I didn't detect any butter, but there may have been a scrape. No sprinkle of parsley, bit of cream, but...
NorthWales_nain . 2021-08-20
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Lovely place to eat. Very warm welcome. Lovely staff. Food was excellent. Cakes looked fabulous will be back to try them.
Xmaseve55 . 2021-08-12
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Fabulous new cafe with excellent food & cakes. Brilliant outdoor seating area. Welcoming to cyclists. Staff helpful & friendly. Recommended
355suef . 2021-08-11
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What a lovely place, brilliant food in a great setting. Able to sit outside with the sun shining and easily found a nice place to sit with all the outdoor seating available. Greeted by really pleasant staff. Had a delicious Brie and garlic mushroom toasted...
Emjtod29 . 2021-08-01
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Perfect stop off on the way home . Warm welcoming new clean tea room . We had breakfast sandwiches.. perfect .. great quality , and a little pot of sausage for our dog . Went out of their way to accommodate us in the dog...
clareGeorgia . 2021-07-30
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We've visited several times on our way to and from Llandudno. Lovely food, considerate service and a peaceful place to stop.
BeestonAnnie . 2021-07-14
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Called early on a Sunday morning for breakfast. Greeted by the Owner I presume and very friendly and welcoming 2x breakfasts were excellently presented and of good quality and offered excellent value. Lovely views and very peaceful spot. Cakes look lovely and wife putting under...
Neil A . 2021-07-13
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Popped in for breakfast after reading good reviews. Didn't disappoint. Fabulous home cooked, locally sourced food & a mouth watering selection of homemade cakes. Found the staff very friendly & attentive. Food was served promptly & hot. Coffee was great. Good choice of menu catering...
kevinfC5951RI . 2021-06-08
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Was excited to try this since they opened. We did on Sunday and it was absolutely amazing. All freshly and locally sourced breakfast. We also took away some home made sausage rolls which were amazing and cakes. Would highly recommend and the owner is lovely...
Q4260YMtracyr . 2021-05-25
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Love this place, the coffee is lovely, oat milk in mine. I came here a couple of weeks ago and talked about dairy free options, dairy free cake is very hard to come by, the chef came and spoke to me and they now have...
J1680MGjot . 2021-05-23
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My partner and I dined on dainty sandwiches and cakes. Ham, salmon and cream cheese and thinly sliced cucumber made up the filling, sandwiched between soft, fresh bread. Presented delightfully in brown paper and blue string. The cakes made scrumptious eating after the sandwiches. Cream...
L2451TLrobinl . 2021-05-08
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A wonderful warm welcome greeted us with a locally sourced scrumptious breakfast, beautiful views and surroundings. Tea served in china cups! What more could we ask for. Thoroughly recommend Betty Berkins
Q7214XTpeterz . 2021-05-01
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We visited this cafe for the first time since covid outbreak. We went for Saturday breakfast. Once again it was really lovely. The food fabulous and excellent service. I'm a vegetarian and can highly recommend the veggie breakfast. Vegans also catered for. Well worth a...
Lynda M . 2020-11-23
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Visited for the first time for my father 84th birthday and enjoyed a delicious afternoon tea, with savoury and sweet delights. Great service, good price for the amount of food. Wonderful place. We will be visiting again...!!
Bernmor . 2020-11-19
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We visit Betty Birkins every week and always feel very welcomed. The food is top quality and their cakes are amazing. Everything is great value. There is a very friendly relaxed atmosphere here and the COVID safety precautions that are in place make you even...
kenbJ5859AH . 2020-11-16
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Went to this café recently but found it very clinical. I know we've got this pandemic on bu I felt I was the one who'd got the virus. The coffee was nice but in the smallest cup I've ever seen and £2.85 I think a...
sunnyjess190712 . 2020-11-12
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A brilliant place to stop off for breakfast or lunch. We had lunch. Tasty home made soup. All the food beautifully presented. Sum is greater than it's many excellent parts. I've visited a lot of cafes in my time. Betty berkins is in a league...
Goober64 . 2020-10-23
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Wow! This is a lovely place to visit. We received a very warm welcome on our arrival. Covid safe, you are asked to hand sanitise on entering and to track and trace, once you are seated you are able to remove your face mask. We...
carlablack77 . 2020-10-10
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Simply the Best! Went for lunch today with the hubby (usually it would be with the girls). Food amazing as always - my husband said Welsh Rarebit the best he’s had!
aliflintstone . 2020-10-09
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Flintshire in lockdown ,can't leave .the county ,with a breakfast like this why go anywhere else ,coupled with a great cappuccino
clk15martink . 2020-10-03
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We came for lunch here today and it was lovely. The staff were so friendly accommodating, went the extra mile with customer service. The cafe followed all the Covid restrictions brilliantly too. Most importantly, the food was delicious, I definitely recommend the fish finger sandwich!
L7257HQjessh . 2020-09-27
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Stopped here at random, but what a good choice. Excellent home made soup, tomato and roasted pepper, good jacket potatoe and a huge pot of tea.
750JimB . 2020-09-19
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Visited today for a pre- booked afternoon tea,with two friends.. we have been before, for this , as well as breakfasts and lunch. As always it was excellent! The food is always very good quality and the afternoon tea.....sooooo many cakes 🧁. Lovely freshly made...
wackojackoNorthWales . 2020-09-12
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We visited Betty Berkins coffee shop today for a treat of afternoon tea. We were greeted with smiling faces and everyone was being very careful to maintain good hygiene standards, with all the necessary rules being followed. When our sandwiches and cakes arrived we were...
38John38 . 2020-09-11
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Great cafe with very friendly staff. The food isn't cheap but you get what you pay for and it was delicious and well presented. Will certainly go back.
Loobyloo08 . 2020-08-21
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Great little place and friendly staff. Breakfast choice is fab and very tasty. Highly recommend the cakes too!!
2abouttown . 2020-08-03
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Had afternoon tea with friends to day wow, it was really special, beautifully presented. We didn't think we would have eaten all those wonderful cakes but we weren't rushed and had the teapot topped up several times and all those lovely sandwiches and delicious cakes...
LoLoLo1953 . 2020-03-17
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Just had breakfast here for the first time. Definitely be coming back. Lovely clean bright cafe. All you dog owners take note dogs definitely very welcome. Separate section set aside so your furry friends can accompany you. Food is lovely. Great selection caters for vegetarian,...
906lyndam . 2020-03-14
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Came with my mum and two dogs for lunch. Theres a really nice area for you and your dogs. Theres also fresh water and treats for them! The staff were all super nice and welcoming! We had the bre and bacon burger. Its was amazing!...
439nevw . 2020-03-10
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called in for breakfast, great staff, food was ok but so overpriced, I couldn't believe I paid 6.50 for two pieces of bacon and one sausage in a bap, maybe that's why we were the only ones in there!!!!
andyamos123 . 2020-03-05
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Once you find this place you will never let it go.my cousin took me on Monday and what a pleasant surprise, it was spotlessly clean gleeming in fact and the food was lovely I'm 78 and I've never tasted home made cake's let them absolutely...
504eileenh . 2020-03-03
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Absolutely loved our family afternoon tea. Lovely warm welcome, beautiful cafe and great staff. Food was beautiful, amazing cake selection x Highly recommended
annarU6423KG . 2020-02-19
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I went to Betty Berkins with my sisters, Nan and Aunty for a treat but unfortunately it was a long wait for food that was okay and only 2 cakes (chocolate and gluten free chocolate) to choose from. We waited 35 mins for water and...
bobbyk633 . 2020-02-18
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Lunch with friends - what a hidden gem. Excellent choice of freshly prepared meals and the cakes to die for! Very friendly staff
aliflintstone . 2020-02-11
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Visited the Betty Berlin’s coffee shop, in Pentre Halkyn on a lunch time. Good selection of food on the menu along with specials of the day, actually went with the soup and sandwich for just under £8. Very tasty veg soup with a hint of...
TravellingTaffyKevo . 2020-01-10
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What a lovely place with friendly staff and warm welcome. We have been meaning to call here since it opened and so glad we eventually did as it will be a regular for us from now on. Definately worth a visit
Carol R . 2019-12-29
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Fabtastic place. A hidden gem just off the main A55. Called in today in the way home from Manchester Airport. Coffee and & a delicious home made Chocolate Fudge Cake, whilst my friend enjoyed Lemon Drizzle cake. Absolutely lovely. Clean. Quirky. Bright and colourful. Will...
Ema759 . 2019-11-25
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Visited today with a friend after having heard a few good things about this place. Had to try it out....so glad I did. Firstly , the welcome was warm and friendly, and everywhere was bright and spotlessly clean. We ordered a slice of Victoria sponge...
wackojackoNorthWales . 2019-11-04
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Adorable place, gorgeous decor and the most lovely,friendly staff. Food was delicious, huge cake portions an enormous pot of tea for just 2 of us (must have had 3 cups each) and according to the milkshake connoisseur with us, the best chocolate milkshake ever!!
Jo H . 2019-10-25
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I had gone for what I thought was the healthy option, however I was disappointed. I chose the avacado on toast with side salad. The toast had a very thick layer of margarine under the avacado which I had to scrape off & the salad...
JSPIC1 . 2019-10-14
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