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Nº 255 in 609 in Powys

Nº 81 of 192 British in Powys

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Highly recommend this gem of a pub for Sunday lunch. Our Family of four arrived at the The Farmers Arms after a long journey back from North Wales. The meals were absolutely amazing! Both Adult and Children’s sized portions area available. Beef, Pork or Lamb or a nut roast were on the menu. Prices were clearly shown for one, two or three courses. We decided on beef and pork the meals were fantastic, served piping hot, the meat melted in your mouth, potatoes were tasty as was the gravy (extra gravy was served in a boat) vegetables broccoli, peas, carrots and cauliflower cheese were brought in serving dishes to help yourself all piping hot and cooked to perfection. The staff serving were very friendly and the toilets clean - cannot recommend a stop to eat at this pub enough - would give more stars if available!

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ScrewRiver . 2023-08-20

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This pub is very friendly and welcoming. We were looking for a quick meal on a long journey. We certainly were not disappointed. The food was of a great quality, cooked well and the staff could not be more helpful. The prices were very reasonable. We highly recommend this pub and will be returning again.

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Michelle C . 2023-07-12

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This is the forth Sunday lunch we have had since the pub reopened and we have had an excellent lunch every time. This time we went for Fathers Day and my fussy dad wasn’t disappointed. In his words the”beef melts in your mouth” and the apple crumble and custard “was absolutely delicious”. The standard of food, staff and atmosphere was excellent. The service from the staff was very, friendly and attentive. It’s about a 40 minute drive to the pub from where we live but well worth it. See you again soon.

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Helyn A . 2023-06-19

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Friendly family atmosphere, cosy and inviting. Tasty honest food (generous positions) and attentive service. Will be back 😊

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Felicity K . 2023-04-22

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Absolutely exceptional Sunday lunch! Proper home cooking which we both thoroughly enjoyed. Very friendly and attentive staff and dog friendly! Very much enjoyed our visit and would be sure to come again if in the area

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Gstar36 . 2022-10-16

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On a random trip through Crickhowell, we fancied a Sunday lunch. Its was quite late in the day so our options were minimal in terms of booking last minute. But we found the Farmers Arms online for a 3.30pm, unbeknownst to us that they stopped serving food at 3pm and it shouldn't have taken our booking. When we arrived they explained this but put in every effort to ensure we enjoyed their Sunday dinner and that we definitely did! Great tasting pork, with all the trimmings that were incredibly seasoned. The staff are all extremely friendly and pleasant and ensured we were catered for during our meal. Highly recommended and great value for money! Don't just pass through. Make sure you stop here for a meal if you ever visit the Brecons!

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Rich_by_name86 . 2022-06-05

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Visited 2 nights, food fabulous, wine great. Would definitely recommend this pub for food & ambiance. We’ll be back!

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Elmrove5 . 2022-05-20

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Lovely Sunday lunch, catered for gluten free including delicious chocolate brownie for pudding. Also doggy friendly. Would definitely return when back in the area.

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Joanne H . 2022-04-28

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Food was ok, nothing special, wasn’t warm enough for me, also quite small portion of dinner, 1 bowl of veg between 4 adults, vegan option veg was really poor not even a parsnip or Yorkshire pudding on there! And ordered in advance for the vegan in the group. Desserts had run out of some options even though we ate quite early, also again 1 vegan option and no vegan cream or ice cream to accompany it, still got charged full price….. also for my two year old I asked for some plain pasta ( just a small bowl as he wouldn’t eat a dinner) got charged £8 for it ( just plain pasta!!! I always leave a true review as this is what I would also like to read.

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Cathy G . 2022-03-27

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Scene setting: We're English and went for dinner at the Farmers Arms, just as England were playing Wales at Rugby. The place was heaving with locals watching the rugby all sporting their Welsh rugby tops - brilliant atmosphere. We sat in the restaurant area (just us, as everyone else was watching the rugby - we were too scared to join them ; ) ) and the team lit the open fire for us which was very much appreciated. Drinks came very quickly, along with menus.  The beers were brilliant - highly recommend the Reverend James. We ordered food and didn't have to wait too long for our starters to arrive.  OH had leek and potato soup. He said it was very tasty and the portion size was incredibly good. I had the Thai fish cakes with home made sweet chilli sauce - both of these were just wonderful. We both had the sirloin steak - fabulously cooked and very tasty. England then won the rugby! 😮 At this point we feared for our lives (and we were utterly relived that the food had arrived before the end of play ; ). It was also at this point that the lovely young waiter showed us the side door, just in case we needed a swift exit strategy! After the majority of locals had left (to go and have a cry about losing to the English), the manger came over for a chat. What a thoroughly lovely man. All of the staff were just wonderful. Great beer, food, service and very good value for money. Highly recommend. (I don't follow sport. I love Wales and the Welsh people - all of this is meant very much tongue in cheek xx)

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DaisyTurnip . 2022-02-26

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Really welcoming, food was first class and excellent value, beer also lovely. Well worth a visit, can’t recommend too highly.

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Wander57504442982 . 2022-01-01

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Group of 14 staying locally for a walking weekend visited The Farmers Arms last Saturday. We pre-booked and pre-ordered for dinner and were looking forward to warm hospitality and some lovely home-cooked food. We weren't disappointed. From the welcome we received to the service throughout, everything was spot on. Catering for such a large group can be challenging but the whole team managed with ease, were friendly, and provided a fabulous service - with a smile. Thank you to everyone at The Farmers....you were great.

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HookyBest . 2021-10-04

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Lovely friendly pub great selections of beers and food is incredible! Owners are very welcoming dog friendly beer garden

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Jamesnarlo . 2021-06-05

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Called into the pub last week for Sunday lunch and was not disappointed...Very friendly staff and the food was out of this world. The Curly Cale was done id a different way and was fantastic and very un-usual so not going to tell you any more so you will need to go there and find out yourselves... Cheese cake is home made and light as a feather Keep going under difficult conditions. Well done Dave F

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davidfI1085UN . 2020-10-20

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Lovely local pub. Great food and really homely atmosphere. The staff were really friendly. Would definitely recommend the pizza and all great value. Look forward to returning

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sarahnY2197WX . 2020-10-17

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Visited the Farmers Arms three times in recent weeks whilst staying at the nearby campsite at Cwmdu. Cannot fault the food or the welcome. We've tried a different meal each time and every one has been superb. Very friendly and helpful staff. Can't wait to visit again.

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Paul S . 2020-10-16

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I spent time in the the area over summer camping. We stayed at a campsite a few minutes walk away where they’d suggested visiting the Farmer’s Arms for a drink and some dinner. What followed was us visiting every night we stayed because it was genuinely a super place to eat and drink. The landlord/chef was a cracking fella who made us feel really welcome. He also served without a doubt one of the best steak and ale pies I’ve ever eaten (no exaggeration). If I’m ever in the area again I’ll certainly pay a visit to the farmers arms.

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reeceo701 . 2020-09-29

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Great little pub good ale House wine also good. Unusually very good for red meat eaters and vegetarians steak was great rare bordering blue and the bean burger was almost good enough for me to try a bit (I did and it was really good) we both had sticky toffee pudding left full as an egg. Quirky ordering and going to the front door to pay just added to a great lunch.

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954AndrewM . 2020-08-31

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We spent quite a while trying to find a pub that was registered with the Eat out to Help out scheme and also actually open for food. Really pleased to find this one had good reviews and was open on a Wednesday. We were worried about the rainy weather forecast but messaged the pub who let us know that they have some covered tables. Some have a small marquee over them and others have gazebos. We booked food in advance with their online booking system so the food was ready when we arrived. Tables are booked for the whole evening and you can book your time slot for food so it is relaxed and you can stay chatting after. Drinks are ordered at the door and collected at a different door. Toilets are available too. Phew!We had a lovely meal (lamb tagine, beef dopiaza and a burger and chips followed by sticky toffee pudding) and we really enjoyed being back in a pub garden. Having the Eat out to Help out discount made for a bargain evening. Great to be supporting a community owned pub too.

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Kathy B . 2020-08-05

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Great welcome from the owners and staff. Lovely food; all home cooked. Nice selection of beers. Beautiful area.

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R6316BCjohnc . 2020-07-29

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This is a fab pub and restaurant owned by the local community. Really friendly welcome and a great place to spend a cold winter's evening. Our food was freshly prepared, local and delicious. Wil definitely by back to try out the rest of the menu.

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NicolaWindsor . 2020-01-07

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Beautiful old pub, lovingly maintained with original features dating back to I think 1745, , great food especially Sunday lunch, lovely beer garden, only downside you can’t get to it through the pub you have to walk around. Lovely hosts and I would most definitely return when staying rapt Cwmdu campsite next year.

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Hoops2015 . 2019-08-28

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We stayed in Cwmdu for a few nights and this is the only pub in the village. We initially popped in for a drink after a long walk with the the dog (the pub is very dog friendly) and were made very welcome. It's a nice traditional pub, which looks fairly plain from the outside but has lots of character inside! As we liked it we decided to reserve a table for tea the following evening. It was a little busier that night being a Saturday but again all of the staff were very friendly and doing their brilliant best to keep things running smoothly. There was a decent choice of meals on the menu - my ham, egg and chips was very nice and my wife thoroughly enjoyed her scampi. Generous portions meant that neither of us could face a pudding, which was a shame as I really wanted to try the cheeseboard! Decent choice of drinks for a relatively small pub - they had the Rev James and Butty Bach on the ale front which were both well kept. We would love to return at some point - if only all pubs were so welcoming!

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stevemorgan49 . 2019-08-12

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Stayed at the campsite nearby for a couple of days and used pub for evening meals.Unsure of what to expect from the rather plain but tidy exterior.Should not have worried. Traditional interior of flagstones, open fires, real local ales, tasty food and full complement of friendly staff. Slow cooked welsh lamb with chilli and homemade mayo kebab was great.. twice (!) Quiet at 6.30 but filled up by 7.30 .. on a Wednesday evening - says it all..

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JGandE . 2019-07-21

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We visited the Farmers Arms twice whilst on a 2 week stay in nearby Tretower & highly recommend the pub.The menu isn't large but what you do get is quality & some amazing flavours. The main course of Mexican chicken soup was to die for & a couple of the starters had unique combinations that certainly got the taste buds going.We received a warm welcome on each visit and enjoyed the general ambience of the pub. Meeting the gorgeous Peggy was an added bonus (20 week old red setter/poodle cross!).We had a 2 mile walk to get to the Farmers Arms but it was well worth it & given the general appeal of the place, we are planning on driving the 40 mins to it when we are back in the locality later in the year.

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249JenP . 2019-07-02

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Regular visitors to this delightful local pub the food and hospitality is unsurpassed. there is always a friendly gaggle at the bar to chat with and the staff are always very friendly and accommodating. The menu changes regularly with interesting options alongside the pub classics definitely worth a visit folks.

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Nome2014 . 2019-06-30

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We ate here two nights running, such was our love of the people, atmosphere and food. Our children and dog were all made welcome and the food was amazing. A great community run pub in a lovely location.

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GrandTour87307 . 2019-05-31

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Fantastic food, very friendly staff and make you feel welcome. And dog friendly lovely place with an original log fire.

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Dannie6908 . 2019-05-17

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Came for dinner last night; fantastic food, friendly staff, really lovely. Thanks we will be back. Particularly enjoyed the chicken pie.

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alisonm236 . 2019-04-18

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Pub gales que mantiene la tradicion de la zona, ni turistas ni sorpresas. Comida con calidad y cerveza local. Muy bien.

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Urcitano . 2019-03-21

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Super Sunday lunch. A great little pub! Very welcoming & lunch was very relaxed! We had a great walk beforehand & lunch was the perfect reward!

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liv20182018 . 2019-02-18

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Have walked here a few times from Tretower for a delicious Sunday lunch since this pub reopened as a Community Pub in mid 2018. Super friendly staff and board games aplenty to give you all the excuses to enjoy a really lazy indulgent afternoon.

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Tigerwont . 2019-02-18

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Visited (once again) after walking up on the gorgeous local hills. A quick chat with the chef and the Lemon Sole was decided upon and came after a short wait by the open fire with a real ale Tip top fish cooked to unfussy perfection.

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Mark C . 2018-12-13

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We came with a big party after a morning walk up the hills - and had booked ahead for Sunday lunch. They coped with our last minute changes in numbers and vegetarians - and produced a fantastic lunch for us - eaten by the fire - thanks very much! Good vaule and great beers too.

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Heaney2013 . 2018-10-22

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Butty Batch beer and proper pub food. Great place, back again tonight. Beer should go down even better as we’ve just walked up the highest mountain in the black mountains a couple of miles away

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MickWO . 2018-10-06

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Visited this pub while camping in Cwdu. Its an excellent local pub. Very welcoming and relaxed atmosphere. The food and beer was top class and reasonably priced. There is a large outside section out the back and the pub is dog friendly. Highly recommend!

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michaeltC6427GF . 2018-08-28

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After trawling around the larger towns in the Crickhowell area we finally tried the Farmers Arms on our last night and what a delight. Flagstone floors, low beams, friendly welcome to both us and our two jack Russell. Although it states on the internet search that it is a ‘community owned’ pub don’t be put off. The community own it but employ a wonderful gang of people including excellent chefs.

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charlesbY2318GO . 2018-08-19

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This place is welcoming and serves brilliant food and great beer. Apparently it's now owned by the local community - and they have chosen tenants who can cook well and who know how to welcome visitors. Plenty of locals here too. Thoroughly recommended

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Alasseur . 2018-08-10

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We had a meal with the family. The meal was stunning. Really friendly staff and dog friendly. Couodnt ask for more. Would definitely recommend.

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WelshRocky . 2018-07-29

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Since our last visit and my last review, and quite literally the last review, the pub has changed hands and is now owned by the community - many of whom we met here this evening.

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Ben F . 2018-06-28

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About 5 months ago we made an impromptu overnight camping stop at Cwmdu Camping - we were so chuffed when we found this place and sat down for what was great food.

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Ben F . 2017-09-28

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I was camping on the local site so decided to eat at the local pub. It's a fairly nice pub. And it's handy for the campsite prob about 300m away.

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Matto8750 . 2017-08-26

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Who would have thought that, in a small pub in a tiny Welsh village near Crickhowell, you would find such delicious Thai curries! Some of the best we have tasted and served in a caring and friendly way. Thank you the Farmers Arms! We will be back!

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Southley . 2017-08-20

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Este no es un lugar lujoso, de ningún modo, pero merece la pena una visita. A poca distancia de la casa medieval y señorial tretower Crickhowell bien situado para./Talgarth Familiar, gran almuerzo de domingo, una amplia variedad de verduras, además de asados sobre una base de carnes asadas. A veces tiene caballos visitar mientras la excursionistas tomar sus refrescos. Lo recomiendo.

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Nellietheelephant59 . 2017-03-08

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Although this pub is a bit lacking in ambiance the Thai curries are superb. The rest of the menu is pretty standard pub grub so the whole family can eat here but if you like freshly cooked Thai food you must try the curries.

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dorsetfamily199 . 2017-02-18

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Me & my Wife tried the Thai Currys & Welsh Burgers - both were really good. Very friendly staff, WIFI etc... def will revisit

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A5D55 . 2016-09-30

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Super petit pub, pas mal de monde même un dimanche soir. Un accueil très sympa, bonne bière et bon cidre et une carte simple, des prix très corrects, bref un endroit bien sympathique et chaleureux. A recommander!

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Vpc B . 2016-08-14

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La comida era precioso, tanto el asador y deliciosos postres que probamos. El servicio también fue excelente, el caballero que nos era simpático y bromeando con nosotros. Gran experiencia y no podíamos poner nuestra experiencia aquí. Ubicación encantadora también ubicado en el campo galés. Me encantaría visitar aquí.

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Chris L . 2016-08-14

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Great food, very friendly service! Had Beef Burger with bacon and chips and Stir Fried Chicken with rice - both really tasty. Two mains and two drinks also highly reasonable for 25 GBP.

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Ray_K_1980 . 2016-08-11

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Fantástica comida tailandesa. Tenía un pollo al curry verde (normalmente ir para amarilla) y congregó a mis ojos lágrimas era tan picante pero me encantó. Yum Yum!!!

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Gavin O . 2016-05-01

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Wet weather stopped play but this warm pub improved the day greatly. Easy to fine kind hearted local pub. With easy wifi access that works!!!!!!!

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Neil B . 2016-03-26

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Stayed just up the road, camping, and came for an evening meal - huge portions, good quality food - nothing special, but simple food cooked well. Great and friendly service. We came back for a post-walk pint the next day, and service was just as good - as was the beer.

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wildcamper89 . 2015-11-18

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Very welcoming owner and top service all round, even brought my pint to the table. Lovely food, all home cooked fresh and tasty. Eat in the bar area, lovely real fire, though I think there's also a 'restaurant' / lounge area. Great selection of beers, not just the usual tipples. Wish it was closer to home, I'd be there every night, many thanks.

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SirromTim . 2015-10-29

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We have now been using The Farmers Arms at Cwmdu for five years,in fact I can't remember how many times we have lunched here now.It is everything we wish we could have as our local at home in Dorset.The atmosphere is friendly,service very efficient , beer always well kept and the food is amazing.The menu is varied enough for all tastes and the portions are very satisfying. There are many establishments that could learn a lot from this family team.Can't wait to return.

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Sheila L . 2015-07-31

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Mushrooms in Stilton to start. Lovely. Sirloin with chips and salad for main lovely. Very pleasant landlord chatty and very nice to our son. Big portions. Just what you'd want from a pub lunch.

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Bear1984 . 2015-07-25

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Me and my hubby we're camping nearby and popped into the pub one evening for a drink. Very warm and friendly owners. We sat outside with the dog for a drink and some chips and garlic bread in the evening sun. We've since been back twice for an evening meal and both times we're lovely pub meals. It's a great little pub with very welcoming owners which serve lovely meals and great ciders and beers with a nice relaxing outside area for warmer nights. Will be going back camping next month and looking forward to having a meal and drink. Dogs are welcome inside and out whilst eating but not allowed in dining area x

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shellx12 . 2015-06-24

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Have visited here twice now whilst out horse riding with Trans Wales Trails - albeit was a set meal the food as always been excellent. Cooked to order, hot and well presented.

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Paula J . 2015-04-20

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My wife and I had Sunday lunch at the pub in early 2013, on that occasion I would have rated it 3 out of 5 . However in June 2014 we decided to visit again for Sunday lunch.As soon as the starters arrived, we new this was a bad mistake. I ordered mushrooms in garlic sauce for a starter, Yes I had 5 mushrooms, but the quantity of sauce was barley enough for one!! My wife ordered pate on toast, - again a miniature portion with only one very small butter..- very skimpy starters. The main Sunday dinner was a carvery, I had beef and chose various veg.I was given small 4 pieces of beef, a Yorkshire pudding and a stuffing. I then chose potato, roast potato and sweed., the landlord then added gravy. The beef was largely fat, with only a small piece of beef actually edible. The stuffing was rock hard in the middle and could not be cut with the knife. The sweed was stiff,totally tasteless and seemed as if it was old and re heated.My wife ordered beef also, her meal was similar to mine. On completion of our meals both plates were left with large amounts of inedible food. This poor quality Sunday dinner together with two small glasses of lemonade and lime cost £27.00.!! I realise that small pubs need to survive, but this one will never again have my support!! Very disappointed. .

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yarmail . 2014-07-13

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A lovely traditional pub. The purpose of the visit was for Sunday lunch. The food was reasonably priced and of a good standard and plenty of it. The service was very good, the staff efficient friendly. We do intend to make a return visit.

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chryssy_owens . 2014-06-15

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We stopped in for Saturday lunch one sunny afternoon in late March.Pints in the grassy garden out back, then solid pub-grub (enormous gammon & egg & chips (£8ish, from memory), good rump steak (about £11), home-cooked beef stew and the like) in the cosy-cottagey bar indoors . There was really good local ale on tap, well-kept and served with a friendly hello. The interior decor is pretty standard country pub fare, neither especially rustic nor tarted up with Farrow & Ball. The only other punters were a group of ladies who'd been riding nearby - their horses were all tied up Wild West-style out the back. The landlord was perfectly welcoming - we came in with a friend who grew up in the village, who still drinks there happily whenever he's about. We'll be back soon.

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Mike W . 2014-04-04

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Reasonably priced, v nice pub grub food ~#. Good selection on the menu. They serve food all day until late on a Sunday so perfect if you go for a long walk in the nearby Brecon Beacons / Black Mountains. Very attentive & friendly staff.

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Cliffstophe . 2014-03-16

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Lovely little village pub with a great menu of pub classics and a good selection of daily specials too.We stopped for dinner twice whilst staying in the village and had fabulous meals & service both times, great staff helped us with local recommendations too!

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Jude291 . 2013-09-03

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Called in way home from RWS it was quite busy ,still found us a table,and still didn't have to wait to long for a v good meal ,v good service. Reasonable prices will call in again

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billysdad . 2013-07-26

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We have eaten here a couple of times - midweek lunch and Sunday lunch. A great welcome and fabulous food. A proper country pub with great ales. Staff were attentive, a comprehensive menu served to a great standard and reasonably priced. Save the address to your sat nav and you won't be disappointed.

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Craig200 . 2012-12-02

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Nice pub in a good location. Friendly atmosphere and always friendly people to talk with. Food was good and we were served despite turning up as the kitchen was about to be served. Beer was of very good quality and a decent price. We were staying nearby and liked walking down there in the evenings and sitting outside with a beer and a packet of crisps. Would love to go back anytime!

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Dominic W . 2012-09-01

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As the title says we found The Farners Arms to be great value, lovely food and pleasant attentive service. It had the added extra that on the Sunday we ate there there were a group of 20 or so pony trekkers stopping there for lunch also. What a lovely sight to see all the horses tethered outside the pub. Brilliant!

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Duffer56 . 2012-08-12

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Good wholesome pub grub of generous portion and sensible price, served in a comfortable dining room. Also, friendly bar populated by locals. Good range of local real-ale. Old-fashioned landlord who knows how to keep beer and run a pub. Very convenient stop off for a trip into mid-Wales. Recommended.

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AJD37 . 2012-07-31

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Comfotable and friendly pub with lovely real ale and very good food.

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rendrag432 . 2012-06-16

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This is the only pub in Cwmdu, and it is little used by locals now.It relies on the nearby campsite and its Sunday carvery.The food is ok and not unreasonably priced, while there is an ever changing array of well kept real-ales.The main problem with "The Farmers" (as it is referred to in the area), is the landlord.Grumpy and downright rude.....

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donsimone . 2012-06-08

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My favorite thing about this old place was the amount of arms on show, there were a whole array of arms from young to old, black to white. some arms where still attached to real live farmers but they seemed really unhappy.

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davesgud . 2012-06-05

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This pub is actually located on the village of Cwmddu.Having visited Tretower Court and Castle nearby, my girlfriend and I called in for a meal.We both had the lamb shank (local lamb) which was simply excellent.The pub was friendly and welcoming even though we were a bit late for lunch.There was a fine selection of real ales-unfortunately as I was driving I couldn't sample them as I would have liked.Certainly a place I would gp back to

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Chepstow_Matt . 2012-04-18

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stayed here for 3 nights from 26/12/11 had a great stay chris and lyndsey who run the farmers arms were lovely and very helpful, very good rates, and they allow dogs which is great, we dined there in the evenings after our long walks food was very nice would reccomend to walkers back packers and dog people, locals were nice as well, will stay here again

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michelle874 . 2011-12-30

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We often visited this pub for a pint prior to Jazz Concerts in the Village Church and loved the atmosphere, the beer and the friendly locals. More recently we have had a meal and the service and quality were perfect. Everything cooked to perfection by I assume the landlady, really lovely local waiting staff and the whole evening was pleasant. We will certainly be using this Inn often when we return to live in this area full time early next year. A meal you can enjoy and afford.

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Bri J . 2011-12-01

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Clean, wholesome food. CWeekly guest real ales!! . B&B here and camping within 100 yds. Locals are very welcoming

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waedywales . 2008-07-22

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Great place to stay. A friend and I cycled to the area and stayed here overnight. The owner is very accommodating and friendly. The room is a generous size with all the facilities you would want, and you have access to an outside deck area with lounge chairs and table which is ideal on a sunny day. The breakfast was also lovely. The location was great as it’s a 5 min walk from 2 good pubs and a post office/shop

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location-iconBear Lanes Shopping Centre
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Great place and food. Came here after other places were booked up. I'm glad they were because we had a lovely meal.

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location-iconGarth Road
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Mock timber frame manor house retaining much of its character and charm. No lifts. Breakfast was choose your own pre-packed cereals with a cooked option. Dinner was a mini-taster with delicious options which we watched cooked on TV cameras. The room was clean but dated with an en-suit crammed in. High windows restricted light and views of extensive gardens and river. The staff were friendly and willing but lacked service training. Guests our age do not wish to be called 'you guys'.