Based on 697 opinions finded in 2 websites
Based on 697 opinions finded in 2 websites
Nº 257 in 472 in St Albans
Nº 39 of 88 Other cuisines in St Albans
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Had a great meal, greek gyros and a steak with chicken, both meals were very filling and tasty. Service is always friendly here and for a Tuesday evening there were a lot of people which made for a great atmosphere.
Simon North . 2024-11-13
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Served by LILITH on Table 10, today (12th November) at BlackBerry Jack. This young lady deserves a well done by the bosses as she was brilliant. Great food and drinks. We were a group of 5 and will come back.
Mr Roderick . 2024-11-12
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Only had a few drinks with a friend who lives local. No food so only saw do much
Donald Downie . 2024-11-04
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Three of us were served a first class full English breakfast. Reasonably priced and served quickly and efficiently by Gina. Would highly recommend.
Andy B . 2024-10-27
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Amazing food, great quality for low price, everything I have tried has been delicious. Always served hot even when the pub is busy, and the waiting time is always short. The pub itself has a lovely vibe, staff is super nice
CHRYSI S . 2024-10-27
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This is great pub I came to watch football and drinks and it was a great atmosphere would definitely recommend the place.
Craig R . 2024-10-26
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We always come for lunch. It’s a good time to be able to chill and catch up on what is going on whilst having a delicious meal.
Angela Q . 2024-10-25
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I go here nearly every Friday for lunch date with my little girl while my children are at school, I feel the atmosphere is relaxed and quiet. Staff are polite and food is certainly great. I enjoy coming here and will be returning.
A . 2024-10-25
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Popped in for a bit of lunch and a pint and couldn't fault the experience. I had the chicken mix which was cooked and tasted perfect. Had a nice chat with the barman Dan really nice lad.
Keith A . 2024-10-24
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We ordered for lunch Chopped salad bowl with 5 Oz Rump steak.The meat was totally cold, not fresh made and very chevy. The salad contains almost only cabbage and lettuce, no cucumber, and only three small pieces of tomatoes. We didn't get salad dressing, had to ask for. We didn't get what we expected. We were very disappointed. In the past we used to eat in this place good food, but not now! It's so shame!
Gabriella Nyilas . 2024-10-08
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Lovely clean local pub with excellent atmosphere and friendly service. Fish and chips were fine.
Freddie . 2024-10-02
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Lovely atmosphere, staff were very accommodating and patient with my son. Food came out quick and hot, drinks were fab. would definitely return.
Lucy Wylde . 2024-09-13
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Very friendly and could not have been more helpful when l was unwell (Dan in particular l will mention ) we are regulars as food is great every time P I and M
graham pat Moore . 2024-09-11
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Second time visiting this pub. I enjoyed a lovely meal with friends. Everyone enjoyed the food. Drink prices at this time are reasonable. The staff are friendly...our waiter Tia was fantastic and really did her best to ensure everyone was happy and well taken care of. I would recommend this place!
Nattie Amba . 2024-09-11
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Came in for dinner with my friend and we got the fish and chips dinner option, food was great and good value for money. The atmosphere in the pub was great, we also was served by a lovely waitress called Tia she was a joy to be served by, a happy smiley face and great manners, asked us if there was anything else we needed and also checked up on us a few times throughout our meal absolutely fantastic service and an assist to the pub will defo be returning after the service received highly recommend visiting if your in the area
Amba T . 2024-08-29
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Came in for dinner with my friend and we got the fish and chips, food was great and good value for money, atmosphere in the pub was great, we also was served by a lovely waitress called Tia she was a joy to be served by, a happy smiley face and great manners, asked us if there was anything else we needed and also checked up on us a few times throughout our meal absolutely fantastic service and an assist to the pub will defo be returning after the service received highly recommend visiting if your in the area
Amba Jade . 2024-08-29
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Tia was a great waitress, and was so very friendly and helpful. Nothing was a problem with the kids and made us feel very welcome. She is an asset to the pub staff. Dave / Katie Patrick and the kids
Dave P . 2024-08-28
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The food was great and the staff were all very friendly, we were served by Amelie who was very helpful and accommodating.
Avery . 2024-08-27
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Cheap food which was OK, sticky tables, whole place could do with a re vamp. Staff are nice, we were a group of 8, food arrived sporadically. If your looking for a cheap meal nothing fancy this is the place.
Maria “Smurf” Biker . 2024-08-27
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Great meal. Very friendly staff. Really took care of us. Spent a lovely evening with group of 8. Food was well presented and large portions.
Philip O . 2024-08-26
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great place with lovely food and staff were amazing! lilith was excellent and super accommodating, will definitely come back :)
Amelie J . 2024-08-23
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Great food and great service Not many people in so not much atmosphere. Great value for money
Darren Wootton . 2024-08-01
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Love this place and forget just how good it is, good selection of beer, but the ice cream sundaes are a must. Don't be fooled by Jersey Farm and support a great snorbens pub.
Kaiser Saucy . 2024-07-30
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Great food, with some unique to the chain.
Joanna Goodger . 2024-07-23
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Tasty food, good value, friendly place where you can pop in and feel at home. Would recommend!
Graham Billett . 2024-07-22
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This friendly pub offers a good selection of food and drinks, including non alcoholic and alcoholic cocktails at great prices. We had sausage and mash and chicken salad for a main and 🧀 chips for a starter. We sited inside, but there is a seating area outside, too. Portions were decent, and food was tasty. I will definitely come back.
Katy Tomczyk . 2024-07-11
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Quite a loud pub when it’s not in the town centre, bice food, tihah & ben were good
Phil Atkins . 2024-07-07
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Nice place.Good food. Good prices.
Viktoria Georgieva . 2024-07-04
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Went there for lunch. Used QR code at table to order food, which was served within 10 minutes. Friendly staff. Atmosphere at lunchtime was quiet.
Anna T Marshall . 2024-06-08
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Waited forever had fillet steak burnt and rubbery awful won’t come again
Christine . 2024-06-05
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I did not like the idea of ordering the meals then having one meal coming out then wait another 9 minutes for the second meal by the time my friend had her meal my meal was almost cold very bad manners not to bring both meals out at the same time.
Jacqueline Jones . 2024-06-02
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Love going here it's always a lovely atmosphere and amazing food
Linda Jones . 2024-05-18
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Great food nice drink. Great value of money.
Benny Lun . 2024-05-10
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Lovely little pub nestled in a housing estate you wouldn't know it was there unless you lived there or googled it not extremely large but quite cosy we sat in the conservatory area as there was a football match on an several ppl in the bar area the food was lovely an hot served fairly quickly even though the football was on we had 2 courses I had the cheese garlic bread which was cooked perfectly then I went with the rump an rib combo which was brought out on a sizzle plate it was delicious would definitely recommend there was also plenty of parking spaces an children welcome
tina Smith . 2024-05-09
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Fabulous place to eat! We came in here last night just the two of us for a nice quiet meal without the kids and it was just what we needed! Emily is so wonderful, give her a pay rise 👏🏻
MakeupandLifeByHays . 2024-05-02
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Amazing food, staff were incredible and couldn't do enough. Will be back in the future.
Amy Wilde . 2024-05-02
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Came here last night for a family meal and the food was amazing and the service we had was brilliant nothing was too much trouble , would definitely recommend :)
Gemma Payne . 2024-05-02
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Tia was great service and very friendly
Daniella Skater . 2024-04-29
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Lovely experience, the food was amazing and Tia was lovely very welcoming and polite
Fiona Stephenson . 2024-04-29
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Had some great food here , really nice. Not as You'd expect from standard pub grub. Got served by tia, brilliant bar maid very friendly customer service with a smile . Will be back.
Danielle Miah . 2024-04-29
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Food is good, Lazy looking arrogant staff , gone down hill tbh
michael beaumont . 2024-04-27
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Had a lovely breakfast, service was quick, Food was hot and well cooked.Will definitely be back to try a main meal and the desserts look lovely 😊, I liked the friendly atmosphere.
Louise Martin . 2024-04-23
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Food was cooked just as it should be, the service was good and the staff very polite and helpful
Tracey Mulholland . 2024-04-20
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Amazing food and service! Strongly recommended
Giovanna Pinheiro Scardini . 2024-04-20
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Lunch for 6 people. 2 of us waited 15 minutes later than the rest despite ordering and paying first. The food was fine but I saw a lady ask the server to clean her table which had a lot of food on it, he flicked the wet cloth over the table carelessly spreading the debris around and onto her looking SO miserable!!
Dee . 2024-04-19
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Nice pub. Food not exceptional but standsrd pub grub
jeff dunkley . 2024-04-19
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Not happy about menu change, some favs are gone. Seems to be new staff every week, Ben or Jen was good, helped with drink choices, very polite.
Jacob N . 2024-04-16
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Was here for a party, the bartender Ben was lovely and very accomadoating
x spl0it . 2024-04-15
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Lovely pub, always a pleasure being served by Ollie and lauren the chef cooking fantastic food- definitely worth the visit!.
F5313XPcarold . 2024-04-03
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Really enjoyed my time here. Food was great as was the service and atmosphere. Also, very good value for money and great staff.
Mark Jones . 2024-04-03
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Steak meal served on round plates NOT sizzling plates . No sizzling onions with the meal. Food is OK service OK. Bar staff need to know there wines got served White instead of Rose' wine
duncanl782 . 2024-03-26
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Great food, great service and nice staff especially Steve and Olly - very good atmosphere!
paul lewis . 2024-03-25
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Ollie was very nice, looked after us well. Food was amazing, chicken feast and boss burger highly recommended.
Stuart Mcfarland . 2024-03-25
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Nice looking place, that's the good bit. The food was of poor quality, and some of it was overcooked. Even though it was reasonably priced, the portion sizes were small. The service was slow and customer service poor. This is more of a pub (ideal local) than a restaurant and with it comes the pub language and atmosphere if that's what you're after this is ideal for you.
martin . 2024-03-24
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Emily was fantastic. Delicious breakfast. Will definitely be back. The new management seems to be improving things greatly
Tim P . 2024-03-23
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This used to be a great place to come with friendly staff, a nice atmosphere and decent food. Unfortunately everything has gone downhill since it has been under new management. The conservatory has been ruined by bringing the bench seats in, the food is much worse (we were served nachos with cold sauce poured all over them instead of warming them and garlic bread so burnt it was inedible). The staff now aren't friendly and leave you waiting ages. The wait time for food is really bad but this was always the case before as well. The barman got my order wrong. They often are out of stock for food you want as well. I used to really like that you could help yourself to tap water at the bar and this has been taken away. The prices are good and the food is mostly decent but overall it's a disappointing experience now.
Lozengie . 2024-03-22
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Great place for a pint and food. Taylor was a lovely and polite server who was really helpful. Food excellent too - especially the pudding!
Peter H . 2024-03-21
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Great food, good location and awesome staff! Manager named Steve was super friendly and great value for money! Will definitely be returning!!
123SophieB123 . 2024-03-20
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I visited on a Saturday evening the service was good the salad bar was a bit empty and was not filled up quickly.
Stephen Pearce . 2024-03-19
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I was served by a sweet team, the bar staff were lovely and so was the wait staff. Taylor was especially kind and helped us with our every question
Milana B . 2024-03-19
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Called in for a lunch here with my family pre Christmas and thoroughly enjoyed it. Have been since so it must have been good. Food was very nice but the atmosphere and the service were excellent. They were catering for a private party at the same time so did really well considering the size of the party. Knowledgable and helpful staff and very efficient service. Taylor and Steve looked after us and made us feel very special. Will certainly call in again when in the area.
davidbY5283OD . 2024-03-19
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Great service from Steve and Taylor. Food cooked to perfection by Jamie. Friendly atmosphere, definitely worth visiting
Taylor B . 2024-03-19
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Unfortunately the food quality has gone down in the last few months, especially the breakfast. It seems if a certain member of staff is off, no one else knows how to cook? All 4 breakfasts were cold and some items were not cooked properly (tomatoes and hash brown bites, and some pieces of bacon) and it looked like all the items had been cooked a few hours before, then just heated up and we waited less than 5 minutes for the food to come out (if you know the Blackberry Jack, food is NOT quick to come out!). Asked for more bacon on one plate as it was freezing, and only received 1 more bit despite there being 2 on the breakfast, and that came out in 30 seconds cold again! Couldn’t be bothered to complain again though. Asked for more toast as the ones served were burnt to a crisp.. the new toast arrived burnt to a crisp. Also had a problem with 2 main meals a couple of weeks ago which were cold and missing items! Unfortunately The Blackberry Jack is just not up to its usual standards, and it seems like the portions have been made a lot smaller!!
AuraSone C . 2024-03-18
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Food is absolutely lovely and service is really quick, the staff are very nice especially Dan and Ollie who served us - very nice, organised and professional.
SJL1971 . 2024-03-18
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Unfortunately the food quality has gone down in the last few months, especially the breakfast. It seems if a certain member of staff is off, no one else knows how to cook? All 4 breakfasts were cold and some items were not cooked properly (tomatoes and hash brown bites, and some pieces of bacon) and it looked like all the items had been cooked a few hours before, then just heated up and we waited less than 5 minutes for the food to come out (if you know the Blackberry Jack, food is NOT quick to come out!). Asked for more bacon on one plate as it was freezing, and only received 1 more bit despite there being 2 on the breakfast, and that came out in 30 seconds cold again! Couldn’t be bothered to complain again though. Asked for more toast as the ones served were burnt to a crisp.. the new toast arrived burnt to a crisp. Also had a problem with 2 main meals a couple of weeks ago which were cold and missing items! Unfortunately The Blackberry Jack is just not up to it’s usual standards!
AuraSone CARAT . 2024-03-17
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Lovely family pub brilliant new manager I think Steve was his name nothing was too much trouble and he knows his stuff got a feeling been in the trade a while, the atmosphere in the pub was good the food was tasty yes it’s not top of the range as sizzlers geared more towards family and it’s value for money but it’s good tasty food and our hungry tums were left full
Samantha P . 2024-03-16
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The atmosphere in this place is really good especially on a busy night, lots of friendly customers and the majority of the bar staff. A shame about the bar man with the long hair, very rude, and makes the staff look messy and unclean. Other than him it has always been an all round good experience
NatalieL0609 . 2024-03-07
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Beers are limited . London pride rarely on and not great.
Stuart White . 2024-03-02
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Ordered two fish and chips on the app. Waited nearly an hour for them. When they eventually turned up the fish was very hot and the rest of the plate wasn't. Chips were cold. Only one other table in the restaurant so don't know why it took so long. Also chased it up twice and was told they were dishing it up.
Joanne Mekolli . 2024-02-28
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Great food, new manager Steve was welcoming and attentive to my gluten allergy, will be back :)
Lauren Nichol . 2024-02-24
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Food drink and service all good
lee wilton . 2024-02-19
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Heard there was a new landlord in there. Spoke to him and seemed like a solid chap. Had a good laugh and joke with him. Feels like that place is in good hands. The few pints i had on the way home were well worth it. 100% going back there again
Tony Basten . 2024-02-13
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First time here in a while! Such an incredible experience! The new manager is doing a fantastic job! You can definitely see the improvement with the new manager! Will be back again soon!
Alisha Gill . 2024-02-12
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Great good and amazing service, I’ll definitely be coming again!!
Maria Hynes . 2024-02-11
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Food was amazing cooked to perfection wasn't too busy so was very quiet Lisa was very welcoming pepsi was flat but no problem Lisa sorted it
Lozza710 . 2024-02-11
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Fantastic value for money and brilliant service. We had a variety of things from the food menu and none of us could fault it. Great selection of drinks too! Can clearly see that the new manager is making their stamp on the place and long may it continue! We will be back
Saltypotatoes94 . 2024-02-11
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Love the food here and new manager! Looking forward to our next visit. Thanks guys!
Caitlin Robertson . 2024-02-11
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Really pleased to see that this place is now on the up with the new manager. Totally faultless. Will be back
Corrinne Frampton . 2024-02-11
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This is a fabulous place for food, great parking and fabulous staff. Food cooked to order and worth the little extra wait. We had steak and chicken combo…… absolutely delicious!!! Lisa was a super friendly waitress. We will be back :)
bobzb2021 . 2024-02-10
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Always a great pub/restaurant. Staff brilliant and friendly and food excellent! 👍
Kaz M . 2024-02-09
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The food was great Emily was amazing nothing was too much trouble. We have different allergies and wasn't made to feel like we were problem or awkward. Would definitely recommend
Alysha Rawson . 2024-02-08
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I go here every week with friends for a quick and easy dinner. Lauren the chef gets our food out so quickly, it’s always hot and fresh. I can be quite fussy, and like to make changes to my dishes and she always happy to...
Bethany E . 2024-02-01
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Had a lovely lunch for my dad's birthday. The light bites were a generous size. Staff were friendly and very helpful especially Jo. Would definitely recommend.
Travel39200640497 . 2024-02-01
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I've used this pub for numerous years and it's always been ok. The new recent landlord and landlady have transformed it . It's clean it's well stocked. The pub just needed commitment and i think Steve and Emily will transform this pub. Thank you.. it's...
Peter J . 2024-01-31
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We have been going to this pub for a while now and it’s become our regular place to drink, the food is nice and the staff are polite and efficient but I have to say that one manager who works there and drinks after her...
Dean H . 2024-01-24
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Regular meals eaten by our group here on a Tuesday night. Food is average at best but convenient on bingo nights. Always a long wait and avoid the app as the order ticket often gets overlooked, especially the drinks! Sizzling dishes rarely sizzle and the...
Helen J . 2024-01-23
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Steaks cooked to order, really nice thank you to the chef
Paul Jordan . 2024-01-18
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Bar staff know our drinks, very nice experience! They even kept my friend's wallet after he left it behind!
Darren Lynch . 2024-01-11
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I come to this pub occasionally and all i can say os how well treated i here the staff are always nice and welcoming especially bar staff Ollie giving great service as usual definitely recommend coming here
Andrew Bishop . 2024-01-10
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In summary this is a local pub that is probably best for a quick pint and some crisps. We booked a Sunday lunch table for 6 at 1:30. We were phoned on the day of we could delay to 2pm as they had a large...
joreviews26 . 2024-01-09
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If you know what to expect then this is amazing value and a tasty meal . It’s a sizzler so not dining and not wholesome food but thoroughly enjoyed it . On a busy Saturday night when the staff are very busy , there was time for a smile and efficient albeit slightly slow service - no complaints at all.
Alan . 2024-01-06
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Always a fantastic experience visiting The Blackberry Jack. Can’t resist ordering food when chef Lauren is working as it always comes out fresh and hot, she’s the best!!
Alisha Dunbar . 2024-01-04
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So disappointed. Moved to the area recently and this was our first experience of the pub. Ordered 2 kids menus for our young kids which we requested to be brought out as soon ready. Waited 45 mins for it after chasing twice and by this point had 2 hungry and grumpy kids. Male member of staff was completely disinterested, and we seemed like an inconvenience to him. At least the female member of staff apologised for the wait when she eventually brought out the adult mains 1 hour after placing the order. Such a shame.
Hanne Gadeberg . 2024-01-03
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Not sure if this is the best place/venue in St Albans. Probably not
Damon Walker . 2024-01-02
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We booked five people for a meal on boxing day 2023. The conservatory area they located the table in was freezing, no heating at all. Then we ordered at bar, after half hour or so, two meals came, then five mins later another appeared then after ten minutes another appeared and order was wrong, so we waited whilst they cooked the bit that was missing , so that person ate on their own, tas everyone rose was finished by then. Finally we had to ask where the mladt persons meal was? turned out it had been forgotten altogether so he had to wait whilst they cooked that, so he ate on his own also. As we had all finished by then . All told wouldn't eat there again, shame as we used to eat there all the time, no special offers were pointed out by staff, we all had the App no mention was made of 2 burger meals for price of one, no asking if we had the app to add loyalty stamps,so no 20 per cent off meal, no mention either that app had 10 per cent off drinks either. Lucky we had good company, as we were all freezing by the end of our long drawn out meal , and mostly ate our meals one at a time. But fair play to chef it tasted nice. I told waitress we were freezing so heating put on as we left, hopefully next diners benefitted from that chat. There are lots of places I'd visit again, but not this one.
Glenda Coleman . 2023-12-26
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Ordered food, served in 10 minutes! Lovely!
Neil Jordan . 2023-12-23
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The food is extremely poor quality. Flavourless, bland and unappealing. I ordered a classic hot dog, and it was extremely chewy and tasteless. My family member ordered fish and chips and the fish was soggy and wet (probably because it's frozen). The vibe is slightly...
ArthurO33369 . 2023-12-20
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Breakfast with Santa 🧑🎄 the staff was absolutely amazing & went above & beyond to make it so magical for the children. Great value for money
Nicola Newman . 2023-12-10
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I've visited this pub a couple of times before and the service been good all the time. Today, I've been there to lunch with my dog, been served by Taylor which I've seen a couple of times and always been top of the class, quick service, very polite and gave my dog a lot of fuss today. For lunch, I've had a vegan burger which was decent made by Chef Lauren. I wasn't very impressed with the buger as missed some sauce, was quite dry but the chips were the best I've had in a pub
Ioana Bejan . 2023-12-09
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Very dry, shrivelled up, obviously our of date Mushrooms and over cooked onion rings, gammon too gristly to eat
john cooper . 2023-12-04
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