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4.4

Based on 431 opinions finded in 2 websites

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Nº 49 in 230 in Slough

Nº 5 of 15 Chinese in Slough

CUSTOMERS TALK ABOUT DISHES WITH..noodlesoldduckriceladyprawnsmeatmustribspayfriedcurrycookedfishchickenprawnchilli

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Take away food delivery Food taste was awful The worst we’ve ever had It wasn’t cheap and felt I’d wasted my money as most of it went in the bin! So can’t comment on the actual restaurant but based on above never again!

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Kusam S . 2024-09-26

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Absolutely the best Chinese food I have ever eaten. The menu is fantastic. The service was amazing. Atmosphere awesome. Mrs Kai was so helpful with answering questions and so delightful.

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Hugh H . 2024-09-24

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Wonderful takeaway food as always. Fresh tasty ingredients. Reasonable prices.Fast service. I've been going to the restaurant as well as the takeaway for more than 20 years and never been let down with the food or service. Sandy is always very welcoming and happy to chat," Hello Toby"!, if she not too rushed off her feet.

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Toby C . 2024-07-27

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Excellent Well presented Extremely Tasty Food. Our go to ‘Chinese’ Sit In, even take away, never ever had a poor meal, Sandie a treat, Great place great food

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PeterSL . 2024-05-17

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Delicious fresh hot food with friendly competant staff and at a good price. Would definitely go again and recommend. Thx

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Gary M . 2024-04-13

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Fantastic food and amazing options of non meat alternatives which really resemble the real thing. The owner is so accommodating and really friendly. Highly recommend it; we come here every year when I am back from overseas.

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munchkin74 . 2024-03-14

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BEWARE- should you find the service below standard, you will be forced into paying service charge when paying the bill.

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Preet . 2024-01-09

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We love this restaurant, we think it makes the best Chinese food. They are so accommodating and I love that they cater for Vegetarians and Vegans, and the food is delicious. The hostess is lovely. We always get out take out food from Kais.

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Margaret R . 2023-11-13

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We have visited this restaurant several times over the years. The food is consistently good, my fussy husband has a favourite that no longer appears on the menu (as a vegetarian option) but the hostess always agrees to make for him. The rest of us have tried most of the menu (vegetarian and non) and the quality is always spot on. Used to be cheaper but it is still good value for money and the staff is very friendly.

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Mirela P . 2023-09-02

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Well what can I say amazing food / cocktails and a wonderful host sandy first time here an will definitely be back regularly thank you so much dandy’s

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Glenn L . 2023-08-27

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We had the pleasure of eating here a month or so ago. We came on a recommendation and had what was not only an incredible meal but a really memorable evening. :-) For those who enjoy good nutritious food, I’d say Kai’s is quite a rare & special gem of a place in Slough. Being a great lover of wholesome food (including cooking it myself, growing vegetables/herbs, not just the eating part!), I’d say what we ate was a lot closer to authentic Chinese food. In any case, it was slightly unique and refreshingly different to what is found in many otherwise great oriental restaurants. It was lovely and impressive to see how Sandy engages with customers, whilst being able to run the place at the same time. This gave it quite a homely and warm touch. Looking at the variety of reviews left here, the most apparent thing to me is how hard it is to please everyone whilst running what can be a busy service. Not everyone’s experience will or can be the same. Anyway, thank you again for such a special evening and looking forward to being back w family in the future! :-) Harjeet Singh Bahra

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Harjeet B . 2023-08-27

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Kai's does the best Chinese food - have yet to taste anything better of any cuisine! Have been going there all my life to celebrate birthdays and the like and so have my family, and we can't resist any excuse for a Kai's takeaway. The people who run the place are lovely friendly people as well. Most of their chicken and duck dishes can be made veggie so there are lots of amazing veggie options too (I often get cravings for the vegetarian smoked chicken in the hors d'oevres and the sweet and sour chicken). Would recommend!!

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Leah S . 2023-08-01

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Nice food and excellent host. We were just there to experience the food and to my surprise the food was delicious. Thanks

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Anish G . 2023-07-09

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The restaurant was unable to provide us any food options which they could guarantee didn’t contain shellfish, and they also couldn’t provide any options suitable for a vegetarian. This was all despite them advertising being able to cater for these dietary requirements. Overall very disappointing, and will not be coming back!

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archieb758 . 2023-06-23

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Shocking service. Been in here 40 minutes and no attempt to even take an order despite asking twice. And only three other tables occupied . Avoid - unless you don't care about service...

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Davidmar57 . 2023-05-31

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Our first visit here and will not be our last. Lovely welcome from our host and menu presented promptly. We had quarter duck and pancakes to start which was delicious. Especially the sauce which we were told was homemade. We then shared kung po chicken, Thai green curry, Malaysian noodles egg fried rice. Each dish was exquisite and bursting with flavour. All washed down Chinese beer. This little gem deserves it spot as the best in the area.

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Mintboy . 2023-03-21

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We were made very welcome by the manageress who was quite chatty, maybe because we were the only occupied table. We went with one of their set means and added some duck. All of the food was very tasty, no MSG was used there as was explained to us. Service was prompt and efficient, everywhere seemed clean and well maintained, including bathrooms. The sting in the tail was the bill. It was higher that we anticipated and about £30 more that a very similar Chinese meal we had not far away (Cookham), the main difference being 1 coffee! We enjoyed our meal but would seek better value going forward.

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400nigelr . 2023-03-04

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This was our first visit to Kai's. We had prawn crackers, mixed starters, crispy duck, mixed seafood, king prawns, sizzling chicken in black bean sauce and egg fried rice. Everything was fresh cooked and absolutely delicious! The lady who runs the restaurant was really friendly and helpful and didn't mind us being late turning up. The service was perfect, the premises large and comfortable, the toilets nice and clean and on the ground floor. I'm sure we will be returning at some future date. Oh, and it's only 5 minutes walk from Burnham Station on the Elizabeth Line.

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CliveDer . 2023-02-07

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We called in at 5pm on Saturday 28/01/23 to see if they had a table there and then for a quick meal. The restaurant was completely empty, but the lady said they were celebrating Chinese New Year later in the evening with a cabaret. However, she could give us a small table by the door out to the kitchen. I don't know how long she thought we would take to eat a bit of sweet and sour! She obviously didn't want to serve us which is why she stuck us in the corner (and nobody puts baby in the corner, as we all know!). I appreciate they were getting ready for the evening event, in which case they should have shut the restaurant with a polite notice as to why. The food is average, not exactly China Town standards, but there is not much choice in Slough these days since Mr Lai closed down. Won't be doing there again. We declined her gracious offer and went to the Toby Carvery instead, where we were greeted by very friendly staff and had a great meal.

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maureencarter3 . 2023-02-02

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Staying at a nearby hotel and decided to try this restaurant. Nicely laid out, clean toilets, good bar and seated area. Good selection of food on the menu. Really enjoyed it.

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WhoDecidedThat . 2022-12-12

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This is the second time we have visited this restaurant as a large group. Vegetarians and vegans don't be put off by the menu, they can make almost anything vegetarian/vegan by using tofu or meat substitute and it's absolutely delicious!!! The staff are so friendly...

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582kezial . 2022-11-20

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We had great food and the service was lovely. We ate meat and vegan and vegetarian 😋 15£ for a main meal is nice

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AlonS233 . 2022-11-19

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Kai’s is our favourite family restaurant! Having moved out of the area we pop back whenever we can. Sandy and Kai always go the extra mile to accommodate our requests and the food is of the highest standard.

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Dan N . 2022-10-29

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This is quite simply the best Chinese restaurant we have ever been to and nowhere else compares. That is because everything is homemade on the premises including the sauces (which most restaurants import). Food from McDonalds tastes the same the world over and Chinese food...

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Ian and Helen S . 2022-10-09

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There are not enough words to express how delicious this food is. I had been strongly recommended this restaurant by some colleagues and I'm so glad. We had the full experience of Sandy, the messiah of flavour combinations, who was incredibly friendly and thoughtful. We...

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sebm540 . 2022-08-04

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A group of us were staying locally and looking for some good food for dinner, and after some googling settled on trying Kai's. Really impressed with the food - had a wide variety of dishes across a group of 7 including two children. The Roast...

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fFindTheRiver . 2022-07-18

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Had a really tasty family meal this week. Owner was really helpful re the childrens food & all came out quickly & freshly prepared & cooked. All tasty & we all enjoyed. Fortune cookies at the end we're fun too

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andyhM2551UH . 2022-04-23

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Was recommended this restaurant from a family who visited before going to LEGOLAND. It did not disappoint great host and service with some good Chinese dishes to eat. We had the set menu which had a lot of variation for a set menu. If your...

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Kevbo79 . 2022-04-13

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Shockingly bad, have ordered take out for years from here but not for a while to be honest . Seriously wish I hadn’t bothered wasnt as nice as before. Special fried rice was a solid block of bland tasteless rice no flavour and certainly not...

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Mummyno02 . 2021-12-31

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I ordered a takeaway meal for my birthday, and wished we hadn’t. First and last time. The chicken satay sauce was horrible, and not the usual peanut sauce. The ribs were very small pieces and hardly had any meat on them. The king prawn chowmein...

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Leeza712 . 2021-12-07

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I have often visited this lovely restaurant with my family over the years and also have regular take aways. This restaurant has recently been refurbished and has been in business for 20+, The owner Sandy is lovely and always welcoming and friendly. The food is...

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misseym2021 . 2021-09-08

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Web site say's open till 3pm for Lunch, but at 2.15 was told we were too late to have lunch, Not Happy !

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DuncanD58 . 2021-08-21

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Disgusting experience, saw the reviews were ok on tripadvisor and thought we would give it a go, how wrong of us Start to finish the service was very very poor, lack of manners and not even a friendly face or anything - but we didn’t...

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Trek18637956694 . 2021-08-06

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I was worried on arrival as the chap on the front desk was too busy taking takeaway orders to even acknowledge us. Thereafter service did improve although it did take a while to feel really welcome. The food was very nice and my request for...

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JonnersB . 2021-07-16

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I would totally recommend this place for a meal or a party. The waitress’s friend made a cake for my father’s 60th birthday! It was brilliant. The staff are so polite and friendly. The food tastes excellent! 5 stars.

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Wokingham-On-Sea . 2021-06-20

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The food at restaurant is amazing !! You wouldn’t regret its best take away In the area !! really friendly staff ,polite . Excellent Chinese !!!! Keep up the good work .

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U9741RQstuarts . 2020-11-29

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This restaurant is very nice and has a good menu. The staff were very friendly and gave brilliant recommendations for what to try

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Alexandra877 . 2020-10-17

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We had been to legoland all day and needed a nice meal to end a lovely family day and we found it here . Service was slow as it a was a very busy early Saturday evening and big orders kept going out .We had...

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williamjc55 . 2020-09-17

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We booked a table to benefit from the eat out to help out scheme. I had spring rolls followed by sweet and sour pork and egg fried rice. I finished of with a pudding. It was all very nice. The shock came when we got...

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Preston B . 2020-08-25

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Visited Kais restaurant on 25th August. Have to say that it was probably the best Chinese I have had in a long time. Highly recommend.

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corala539 . 2020-08-25

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Staff were great, food was amazing and owner was delightful:) not been to a Chinese restaurant in the area that was this good.

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thylush . 2020-08-24

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Booked a table and arrived on time - lack of acknowledgement. Finally shown to our table and order taken for drinks 25 minutes later. Drinks arrived in 10 minutes. Order for food taken 20 minutes later. Starters arrived an hour later - an hour after...

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travellers092 . 2020-08-12

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Crispy Duck for two as starters my main of sizzling Mongolian Lamb with Fried Rice with draught Lager. It’s good to eat out! Excellent food superbly presented in a relaxed atmosphere Kais ticks all the boxes👍🏻

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petrosSL . 2020-07-30

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It was my sons birthday, and he fancied Chinese food. So we booked a table at Kais, as my wife and I had eaten there before. Sandy welcomed us with open arms, even though corona virus did have an effect on their bookings, the restaurant...

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Chris D . 2020-03-12

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Nice chat with the owner and great food at a reasonable price. Would definitely pay another visit if I was in the area.

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Captainnajork160 . 2020-02-07

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I can only recommend this restaurant. For many years Kai and Sandy have consistently delivered wonderfully tasting food. Relaxed environment, terrific staff and outstanding food. Enjoy 😊

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petrosSL . 2019-10-20

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Absolutely a no go! chicken fried rice had chunky chicken pieces and rice was not fried with soya sauce, salt and chilli wings no real flavour and sweet & sour King prawn the batter was too thick.

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Inspire763633 . 2019-10-20

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Fantastic place, fantastic food, good prices! We always come here when staying at the Premier Inn in town.

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Paula K . 2019-10-20

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I have been eating here for ever I think I was 10 week I first went to the old place and I remember going behind the bar to get a beer sandy and Kai are great hosts and always have great food

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54richardm . 2019-10-16

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Such a lovely restaurant, with a warm family atmosphere and the staff are brilliant, especially the owner Kai. Food was delicious and will definately will be going back.

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Gks1reviews . 2019-10-03

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By mistake we went for my birthday dinner, some dishes were ok but most awful. Servings were minute and pricey and we were charged for the chilli sauce as well. Was ridiculous prices same as London almost. Beef in bean sauce was enough only for 3 people and was £13.90, chicken chow mein for 1 person was £5.50, Thai green curry was awful, half crispy duck was £25. they charged £2 each for sauces so if you asked for chilli sauce you had to pay for it. It really was ridiculous and oh hair in my hot and sour soup. To which the owner said that no one in the kitchen has this hair colour ......... but no on on the table had touched the soup yet I was stirring it when I found the hair. I want to give it a negative rating and would saynplease avoid.

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Samara A . 2019-09-30

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The takeaway menu on line is easy to read. Had a selection of chow mein, duck, chicken & prawn dishes which were delicious. The sweet and sour chicken was the tastiest eaten for ages. Reasonable price and a quick cooking turnaround for collection.

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sharonbE9863WM . 2019-09-28

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We were on a work trip with a couple of long days recently, and happened upon Kai's on the first night. From walking through the door exhausted to leaving elated and full, the experience of dining at Kai's was like floating on a spicy, fragrant cloud of flavour and fun times with friends.Ice cold Kirin Ichiban on tap. Super good value menu packed with delicious dishes. Incredibly friendly service and a great atmosphere. Could write another 1,000 words describing how happy we were to have the opportunity to return there for a second night, but my feelings towards the restaurant can be summed up aptly in two.Hell. Yes.

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RDKBailey . 2019-08-21

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After a long hard day of work, there's nothing better than Kai's.

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James H . 2019-08-21

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Visiting the South and staying close by. Remembered being impressed when I visited a few years ago so took a chance again. Oh My God, this has to be the very best of Chinese meals I have eaten.

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grumpimus . 2019-08-02

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We moved near the area in Feb and decided to give it ago and we weren't disappointed. The food was amazing, the best we have ever had. So tasty I can't explain. We recommend the Chicken Chow Mein and Ribs.

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MattSoden . 2019-06-27

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We finally gave Kai’s a go, and to be honest the food was really good and not expensive, however if you want to hear the person opposite you, unfortunately you may struggle as it is very noisy with large tables of parties.

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Lovelyshoes888 . 2019-06-11

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My Wife and I visit Kai's whenever we are in the area (unfortunately too rarely) . We had the set lunch menu today. We had a great meal at a very good price. As always, there was nothing to fault and everything to praise.

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rayt440 . 2019-04-11

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Went here with my family one afternoon, after looking for a good local chinese restaurant. The older two Chinese owners were inpatient and hurried even though the restaurant was empty. In their defence, i think that's just a generational chinese thing and we didnt take much notice. Food was ordered and arrived fine. Tasty starters and kids menu. Main course was less good, about average. Bill for x2 adults & x2 kids was c. £95. I had to check & check again to make sure i wasn't hallucinating.. way too expensive for slough, these are London prices & in a stylish restaurant with nice decor & ambience, which Kais isn't. Happy to pay premium prices for top food & ambiance but this is not that.

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735alf . 2019-04-01

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We went on Saturday evening with my mother in law. The service was ok but when they got busy it was very slow. The shared starters was good but our mains were tasteless especially the prawns and scallops, chicken was processed which we did not eat.

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annageezer . 2019-03-31

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We were 2 adults and 2 children .

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Nicola F . 2019-03-22

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Dropped by as a group of four on a Thursday night and was pleasantly surprised for a first visit by the fast service, very friendly staff and wonderful tasty food. Highly recommend and will definitely be back as it was the best Chinese I have had in a long time and the whole group agreed!

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Jessica D . 2019-03-12

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I've been living near this restaurant for three and only trying now for the first. Enjoyed every bite. Highly recommended. The Malaysian noodles are very 🌶. Love it.

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hussa2013 . 2019-02-21

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Great evening with food and service first class. We sat in the restaurant which got busier as the evening progressed but the takeaway was busy busy busy all the time so obviously a very popular authentic Chinese restaurant.

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RomanEagleSPQR . 2019-02-20

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A buzzing restaurant with a good friendly atmosphere. Very varied menu with good advice for dietary needs from the knowledgeable staff. Food was tasty but service a bit slow. I will certainly return.

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Catherine C . 2019-02-12

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This was the first time we had ordered food from Kai's and for our new year's dinner and we wasn't disappointed, it was really good quality food and all hot! There was a wait but due to it being new year's it was busy but it was worth it! Not the last time we've ordered and everytime is really good.

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Kelly S . 2019-02-08

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I always come here for lunch in Slough when I travel. The food is good and the staff are always friendly. Highly recommended.

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. 2019-01-08

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Waited ages for order to be taken, couple running the restaurant too busy chatting telling us about the staff issues and illnesses they all have to cope with!

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. 2018-12-23

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Always delicious. Food is great. Set menu plus some extra dishes and its a perfect meal. The salt and chilli squid is fab as is the crispy chilli beef.

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Griffblack . 2018-12-13

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Have eaten here multiple times over the years as close to the office, so naturally we have had a few lunches and the occasional evening meal here. Always wise to book ahead, particularly around Christmas/New Year/Chinese New Year.

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stevensX236NC . 2018-12-11

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Warm welcome from the moment we walked in the door. Food was wonderful. Staff couldn’t have been more helpful. Highly recommend. Will be going back.

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ChrisS9672 . 2018-11-23

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We now live in Bracknell so we haven't been here for over 10 years the food was really good quality and doesn't make you feel bloated we really miss not having any good Chineses locally to us it's only 15 minutes up the motorway so when we need another Chinese fix will definitely be coming here again.

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jasonlB745JC . 2018-11-09

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The lady is very friendly and the service is a great I usually get take away only but I have always enjoyed the food and found their service to be brilliant. I recommend

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cnwachuku . 2018-10-24

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Enjoyed our meal on a relatively quiet Sunday evening. The owner found time to chat with us between courses.

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M5Liv . 2018-10-09

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Very impressed with the food. We also didn't feel rushed. They have a good set menu and special of the day

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themunk m . 2018-10-04

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Go to Kai’s about once a month for takeaway.

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Surj B . 2018-09-25

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We went there for a meal as a family of four. The food was so so - Singapore noodles were very greasy, portions were small and on the expensive side. They charge £2 for chilli oil, which I have never been charged for before.

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jazzyd14 . 2018-09-05

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Although nearby I hadnt been to Kai's for a long time so we phoned and ordered a take away over the phone and collected it.

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adsuk2017 . 2018-08-28

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I'll start by saying I used to swear by Kai's. Different dishes from the norm executed like an absolute boss smacking of deliciousness.

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OnesHumbleOpinion . 2018-08-08

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Having been away from the area for a few years I was amazed by the welcome from Kai's owners. Not only did they treat me like a long lost friend, but they genuinely remembered stuff we'd talked about way back ! Mrs K spent time with my son teaching him how to use chopsticks too. I couldn't have had a more pleasing experience. Totally recommended 100 %. Oh......And the food was as good as ever. A lot of it freshly prepared on site. You can taste the extra flavours compared to warehouse bought. Tasting is believing. If you appreciate good food you won't be disappointed.

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Julian M . 2018-08-06

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We left Dijon in the morning. When we arrived at the tunnel we fancied some Chinese food.

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Karen C . 2018-07-24

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Regular diners at without doubt the best Chinese restaurant around, always look forward to an evening at Kais, friendly service from Sandy and Kai and rest of the team, starters mains all excellent, well presented and deliciously tasty.

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petrosSL . 2018-07-23

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The meal was amazing from start to clearing the plates clean, such friendly staff and a lovely atmosphere, been a couple of times and been brilliant both times

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elainesW2264ON . 2018-06-18

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A number of my work colleagues have mentioned this restaurant over the years, I’m now disappointed that I have only just visited.

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JessyRoseM . 2018-06-01

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Nice food and delivered hot and fresh to the table. Prices have increased and now there's a 10% service charge added, which is a little much, it's nicer to tip according to the service. The place was empty for the whole time we there, not the busy place it used to be. Maybe the locals have looked at the prices!!

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Disearning . 2018-05-27

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I have been a long term customer at Kai’s and have always found there food to be far superior than any other Chinese Restaurants in the area. I really fancied a delicious lunch being my day off but when I walked by I noticed they were closed. I happened to bump into Sandy-the owner and she arranged for the chefs to cook me a fantastic meal. I’ve never known another restaurant anywhere to go out of their way to provide a spectacular meal even if they were officially closed. Thank you so much to all the team.

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mark h . 2018-05-15

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The king prawns and scallops were really fresh. Best salt and chilli squid we had for ages. The spare ribs and tempura French beans in our hors devours were fabulous.

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Cmks61 . 2018-05-12

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We arrived as a family of 6 and were just ignored for ages. Standing at the entrance and not even given a hello.

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Imran K . 2018-04-29

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This was my first visit and was a great success. The atmosphere was relaxed, the staff attentive, the menu excellent and the beef in black bean sauce the best I've every tasted.

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manningonline . 2018-04-23

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Amazing food and friendly staff. My dad ( a very pick eater) absolutely fell in love with the starter and main course, honestly one of the best Thai/Chinese restaurants I've ever been to. We would defiently go again and would a 100% recommend it!!

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Akhila J . 2018-04-12

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West London -This is a must... great food ... excellent food ... fab host.

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r9skv . 2018-04-09

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Amazing service and food in the best Chinese cuisine restaurant around. It has a great bar area for drinks pre dinner.

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Jimmy78 . 2018-04-06

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Should have paid attention to the bad reviews. Yes the food is good but the staff are very rude, they shouted at us when we complained that we'd been sat by a noisy party of around 30 and insisted we pay a bill that had...

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Nick P . 2018-03-18

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No value for money, just spend 71 £ and came out with hunger. 4 egg fried rice they have mixed one egg. Just a steam rice. Chili pest also they charge 2 £. There are so many places in slough not like this. Must tell every one the truth.

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ukcars2010 . 2018-01-27

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We tried this restaurant for the first time tonight and we will definitely come back again. Great food and lovely service. Would strongly recommend!

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Rg2012_12 . 2017-12-30

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Best Chinese around this area. We had a take out, Thai green curry, veggie noodles and stir fried veg. Everything was exceptional 🤩 Would recommend Kai’s to anyone they never skimp on meat and good vegetables. Firm favourite

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nd2017burnham . 2017-12-22

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We were looking for a quick meal after visiting Lapland UK, and this was amazing. It was family friendly, the food was amazing, fresh tasty and exceptionally good quality. My son was determined he wanted chicken chow mien which wasn’t on the menu but made especially for him. My wife is vegetarian and had a huge selection to choose from and had the most amazing ginger and spring onion meal. I had the best crispy beef I’d had in years, with thick strips of crisp beef, where I actually could taste the meat in it. They looked after us all and kept a tired and getting grumpy child entertained without any problems! Will definitely come again when we next come down here for legoland visits, a much better option than eating at there.

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LeeMazzotti . 2017-12-17

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Great food served by friendly attentive staff Always made welcome

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Cheryl1 . 2017-12-08

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The food was absolutely amazing and the owners were wonderful. Great service and they were very welcoming to us all. Highly recommended!

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Bruce T . 2017-12-07

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Pan Asian menu, with a Chinese focus. First class food, cannot be faulted. Really, very very good! Service with a smile is a understatement. On my first visit, we were treated with a masterclass in eating with chopsticks. The second time, I dined with a larger group and we were given a lesson in Chinese language. Very special place. I would give it 6 stars if I could!

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Mo B . 2017-12-07

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